Why are some people jealous of Winston? (I also seen it with other successful guys who show receipts)

[Archibault]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

People dislike you: If you start showing receipts and evidence that you are getting laid and successful.

People seem to dislike that, "Why is this average dude getting laid with hot women." Justin said people would see him and immediately get "triggered." I've heard the same about Winston, "Why is he getting laid with model-looking Asian and Russian women?"

In the West, unless you are a model-looking dude, you are expected to "settle" with an average older woman. However, if you go beyond this "paradigm," suddenly people start disliking you.

Haha, I just wanted to share.

[Gali]

Just use the search function and you will get most of your answers to your newbie questions. This is already dealt qirh 10 years ago on this forum. He gets a hard time even on his own forum for a reason.

[Winston]

Gali,
There are thousands of threads here. He will not know what you are referring to or what you expect him to find. You are being vague and unclear. What do you want him to search for exactly?

I may have plenty of faults yeah, but so do you too and so do most people. So what? At least I am very honest and genuine and not a faker at all. No BS with me ever. That's what people respect about me. That's what sets me apart. Most Americans don't like total authenticity, they like BS and fake positivity, as we all know.

Also, everyone can see here that I am not greedy or in it for the money. I'm here to share and enlighten others only. Everyone can see that. So my motives and intent are pure and genuine. You gotta give credit where it's due.

[Gali]

Well he should do the work and ask intelligent questions. People put in the work to answer these questions that is much more work.

Well I can find a lot of Bullshido with you. Flat Earth, No Gravity, Rockets are for show.

[Archibault]

I was mainly talking about people outside the forum who seem to talk about Winston out of jealousy. However, I've been exploring this forum, and it seems many members cross the line with Winston. Winston must have a lot of patience to tolerate people saying he looks like a "taxi driver: I have been to other forums, and the people there would have immediately banned most of those "troublesome" makers.

People say Roosh was lenient. However, when I was in Roosh's forum, he'll ban anyone who even questions the "plan" they have. For instance, Roosh, during his "World Tour," wanted all members to stop writing about controversial topics since journalists had infiltrated the forum. Everyone immediately complied—anyone who didn't was outright banned.

[MrMan]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

I keep seeing threads from Winston about how cold people are, how it is hard to connect with people, how lifeless people are in different countries like the US and Taiwan. It seems like he feels like he can't find his soul mate, or soul mates. He does manage to get pretty girls, sometimes bar girls, to take pictures with him. I don't know that he has girls lining up to do the nasty with him. It seems like going abroad only gave him short-lived happiness. He can speak for himiself in this matter if he wants to. I don't get the impression that he is rich or successful or a relationship guru type. This board is active, but I would be surprised if it is a huge money maker. Maybe he is able to earn a living from this. I don't know. I've seen a few of Winston's videos, but the number of views is not huge. I don't see anyone being jealous of him. There are a couple of posters who seem like fanboys. There is Spencer, whose English is barely comprehensible. There is also a satirical Daddy Woo poster. There are occasional posts about how great or how terrible Winston is-- posters trying to get attention I suppose.

I think Winston comes off more as 'relatable' than as a success guru to a lot of men who have difficulty with relationships, both romantic and friendships, in English-speaking western countries.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

The last I heard, Roosh got serious about Armenian Orthodoxy, repented of his wicked life of fornication, and left it behind.

[Winston]

Well he should do the work and ask intelligent questions. People put in the work to answer these questions that is much more work.

Well I can find a lot of Bullshido with you. Flat Earth, No Gravity, Rockets are for show.

I do ask intelligent questions. So does Archibault. So far Gali you have not asked any intelligent questions at all. Are you projecting?

You calling everything bullshido doesn't mean anything. It's just a label in your mind, not in reality.

I haven't talked about flat earth in a long time. I stopped talking about it in 2015. Where have you been? You are making up false stuff. That's dishonest. You got no ethics? I been asking a lot of deep questions lately about life, not about flat earth. YOU are the one focused on flat earth and keep bringing it up, NOT me.

[Gali]

I do not come to HA to ask questions. That is not the place to do it but if you ask it should be intelligent and not lazy if you want to be respected.

I used Flat Earth to make my point clear. It is a hyperbole. You have still a lot of alternative reality stuff. Or we can call it science denial and history denial. You might call that you are simply a dreamer.

But one time Flat Earther always a Flat Earther. Like the Chinese social score system you get points for bad actions and believes even if they were in the past.

[Winston]

I do not come to HA to ask questions. That is not the place to do it but if you ask it should be intelligent and not lazy if you want to be respected.

I used Flat Earth to make my point clear. It is a hyperbole. You have still a lot of alternative reality stuff. Or we can call it science denial and history denial. You might call that you are simply a dreamer.

But one time Flat Earther always a Flat Earther. Like the Chinese social score system you get points for bad actions and believes even if they were in the past.

Are you saying you are a Communist and believe in the social score system? That is sick. You sure are brainwashed. I do ask intelligent questions. Lots. You don't. You pretend to know it all, but you don't.

Alternate reality stuff doesn't mean it's not true. Lots of alt stuff is proving to be true and fits the data. The question is: What best fits the data? Your theories do not fit any data and you have no theories or explanations. All you can say is that randomness created everything. Your religion is randomness. There is no logic to saying "Once a flat earther, always a flat earther". That makes no sense. Men change their minds all the time. Except for you. You seem more like a bot, not a living soul. Not true for me. All you do is repeat logical fallacies. You are SUPER closed. No imagination. I pity that. You don't see the beauty and truths that I do.

[Winston]

Are you a ghost Gali? Why does no one see your posts or reply to you? lol. Does everyone see his posts? Or am I in a Twilight Zone reality where only I see his posts but no one else does? Lol

Btw Gali, why do you keep sending duplicate posts, with the second post only have quoted text within? That's odd. If you double clicked, the posts should be identital, not the second one in quotes.

[Winston]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

I keep seeing threads from Winston about how cold people are, how it is hard to connect with people, how lifeless people are in different countries like the US and Taiwan. It seems like he feels like he can't find his soul mate, or soul mates. He does manage to get pretty girls, sometimes bar girls, to take pictures with him. I don't know that he has girls lining up to do the nasty with him. It seems like going abroad only gave him short-lived happiness. He can speak for himiself in this matter if he wants to. I don't get the impression that he is rich or successful or a relationship guru type. This board is active, but I would be surprised if it is a huge money maker. Maybe he is able to earn a living from this. I don't know. I've seen a few of Winston's videos, but the number of views is not huge. I don't see anyone being jealous of him. There are a couple of posters who seem like fanboys. There is Spencer, whose English is barely comprehensible. There is also a satirical Daddy Woo poster. There are occasional posts about how great or how terrible Winston is-- posters trying to get attention I suppose.

I think Winston comes off more as 'relatable' than as a success guru to a lot of men who have difficulty with relationships, both romantic and friendships, in English-speaking western countries.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

The last I heard, Roosh got serious about Armenian Orthodoxy, repented of his wicked life of fornication, and left it behind.

If I was a relationship guru, I'd have to spread BS and make a lot of false promises I can't keep, and maintain the illusion of control. Because in reality, you cannot teach someone to find a girlfriend or love or soulmate. The spark and chemistry is either there, or it isn't. It's something intangible, not a formula or method that can be taught or learned. Everyone knows I cannot BS or lie or make false promises like that. I am too real and authentic and down to earth.

I don't have a lot of charisma, so I am lucky that I have any following or fan base here at all. Usually guys without charisma or BS or oratory skills do not have a following. However, since 2002 I have written many deep truths and observations that resonate with certain people. That's why I got attention and a fan base. Plus my photos and videos sold my HA movement too, better than my words can because words are just words. So my authenticity does resonate with some people, even if I don't have charisma in the usual sense.

I do not claim to be a successful guru or role model or whatever. I just tell truths that no one else dares to, which resonates with people. That's why many think "Wow I thought I was the only one who thought this! Now I know I'm not!" when they see my stuff. I'm a messenger and reporter of truth, not a guru.

Why did you come here MrMan? You must resonate with this forum too. Even mainstream types like HouseMD and Momopi must resonate with this forum in some way or they never would have posted.

How did Roosh fornicate? He claimed to be against p4p and he never showed the women he scored. Why did Roosh become religious so easily? He seems to lack any critical thinking skills when it comes to religion.

[WorldTraveler]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

People dislike you: If you start showing receipts and evidence that you are getting laid and successful.

People seem to dislike that, "Why is this average dude getting laid with hot women." Justin said people would see him and immediately get "triggered." I've heard the same about Winston, "Why is he getting laid with model-looking Asian and Russian women?"

In the West, unless you are a model-looking dude, you are expected to "settle" with an average older woman. However, if you go beyond this "paradigm," suddenly people start disliking you.

Jealousy is the strongest emotion. People will do stupid things to one up someone they are jealous of. People don't like braggers either. If you are bragging about how much you are getting people are going to probably think you are lying.

[Spencer]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

People dislike you: If you start showing receipts and evidence that you are getting laid and successful.

People seem to dislike that, "Why is this average dude getting laid with hot women." Justin said people would see him and immediately get "triggered." I've heard the same about Winston, "Why is he getting laid with model-looking Asian and Russian women?"

In the West, unless you are a model-looking dude, you are expected to "settle" with an average older woman. However, if you go beyond this "paradigm," suddenly people start disliking you.

Haha, I just wanted to share.

I don't think they're jealous, necessarily. When it comes to Winston's prowess with the ladies, for instance, he admitted openly on the forum not too long ago that the vast majority of his sexual encounters with women have been paid for sessions with prostitutes and he only slept with 10 girls "organically" through seduction or smooth talking or by having a relationship with them.

He's not that much of a Lothario, after all. @Winston has slept with probably well over a hundred women if not more but about 90% of them were prostitutes, strippers, escorts, ladies of the nights, bar girls, if you will. Which makes him kind of average in terms of the number of sexual conquests he had, for a man his age (late forties) but above average in the amount of girls he's paid for sex. Overall, decent numbers, but nothing spectacular for a man of nearly fifty.

Dont be hatin on da playa hate on da game for wiseton integryman not same you making baby left right center for leavin hi and dry slam n bam for exandin poverty life on poor inosnese childs make sociality taxmoneys burden on hardworkin citzenry and moreso wiseton not losterman like marco for he getin wit many qualify so hi status girl euro and america and babymomy flipin girly make the one only son babywu so marco look miror see da wanabe losting lifetimes unployment wastin youths in poverty province forjus sleep lo status seconhan trikster girlys whilst layround same dogy and drinking beers all days airday for facjac marco big envy stanfordguy and also super jelosy of supremity bossman pathbraker wiseton who man wit da hi sprit moral caricature and pockets full of travelmonys and fanbase girlys all oer da globe so beter for ate humilify pie make admision you sooooo angry stanfordguy and wiseton for havin da lifin you dreamin for

[MrMan]

I do not claim to be a successful guru or role model or whatever. I just tell truths that no one else dares to, which resonates with people. That's why many think "Wow I thought I was the only one who thought this! Now I know I'm not!" when they see my stuff. I'm a messenger and reporter of truth, not a guru.

Why did you come here MrMan? You must resonate with this forum too. Even mainstream types like HouseMD and Momopi must resonate with this forum in some way or they never would have posted.

I don't really agree with the idea of America or whatever other Anglo culture being a cold emotional wasteland, while the rest of the world is full of roses. The US is a tough place to find a decent wife, but it's not impossible. I have lived abroad as a foreigner/expat for many years of my life. I married a foreign woman. I wanted to share some of my experiences with my first initial post, maybe offer some advice to some younger men looking to move overseas. I had a little 'manosphere' thinking, and some of that seemed to have a grasp on some of the cultural issues in our society, though some of it is kind of dark and extreme. Some of that shows up around here. There used to be a poster constantly posting about throwing acid in women's faces. I stuck around as a voice of sanity around here.

I don't feel like America is a vastly lonely wasteland, but I might feel lonely if I hadn't gone the route of getting married and having a family. There are a lot of new agey and occultic type threads that I mainly ignore.

[MrMan]

Winston seems like a cool guy who lives a life of abundance and tries to help other guys become successful.

I have also seen this jealous towards successful PUA's like Justin Wayne. I know he is a controversial guys(primarily for how he run his business). However, he did legit was getting laid. I met him once on the street, and he was a hot Eastern European woman. It was a random day, so there were no cameras and no way it was "staged" or anything.

Its seems:

People like you: If you write like Roosh, mostly about his rejections or being broke. Notice he never shown any of the women with who he hooked up.

People dislike you: If you start showing receipts and evidence that you are getting laid and successful.

People seem to dislike that, "Why is this average dude getting laid with hot women." Justin said people would see him and immediately get "triggered." I've heard the same about Winston, "Why is he getting laid with model-looking Asian and Russian women?"

In the West, unless you are a model-looking dude, you are expected to "settle" with an average older woman. However, if you go beyond this "paradigm," suddenly people start disliking you.

Haha, I just wanted to share.

I don't think they're jealous, necessarily. When it comes to Winston's prowess with the ladies, for instance, he admitted openly on the forum not too long ago that the vast majority of his sexual encounters with women have been paid for sessions with prostitutes and he only slept with 10 girls "organically" through seduction or smooth talking or by having a relationship with them.

He's not that much of a Lothario, after all. @Winston has slept with probably well over a hundred women if not more but about 90% of them were prostitutes, strippers, escorts, ladies of the nights, bar girls, if you will. Which makes him kind of average in terms of the number of sexual conquests he had, for a man his age (late forties) but above average in the amount of girls he's paid for sex. Overall, decent numbers, but nothing spectacular for a man of nearly fifty.

Dont be hatin on da playa hate on da game for wiseton integryman not same you making baby left right center for leavin hi and dry slam n bam for exandin poverty life on poor inosnese childs make sociality taxmoneys burden on hardworkin citzenry and moreso wiseton not losterman like marco for he getin wit many qualify so hi status girl euro and america and babymomy flipin girly make the one only son babywu so marco look miror see da wanabe losting lifetimes unployment wastin youths in poverty province forjus sleep lo status seconhan trikster girlys whilst layround same dogy and drinking beers all days airday for facjac marco big envy stanfordguy and also super jelosy of supremity bossman pathbraker wiseton who man wit da hi sprit moral caricature and pockets full of travelmonys and fanbase girlys all oer da globe so beter for ate humilify pie make admision you sooooo angry stanfordguy and wiseton for havin da lifin you dreamin for

This pidgin English takes too long for me to read. I stopped about a quarter of the way through your post. I don't make baby left and right and slam bam and leave high and dry.

I have had children with only one woman. I know this because I have only had sex with my wife after we got married. My wife and I had children and are raising them ourselves.