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Interesting. I got 8.94

Face has good horizontal symmetry
ratio of your nose length to ear length nearly ideal
compared to eye width your inneroccular distance nearly ideal
ratio of face width to nose width nearly ideal
ratio of face length to faec width nearly ideal
ratio of your mouth width to nose width nearly ideal


But sure that cant be all? Race must feature as they have different shape skulls and features

In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

(Also, male beauty especially is more dependent on the body than the face, though even with women, the face fades in importance at the beach or other situations where most of the body is visible. If the woman is fully naked, most heterosexual men dont really notice the face unless it is truly ugly. Ditto for nude males around hetero females.)

retiredfrank wrote:In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

(Also, male beauty especially is more dependent on the body than the face, though even with women, the face fades in importance at the beach or other situations where most of the body is visible. If the woman is fully naked, most heterosexual men dont really notice the face unless it is truly ugly. Ditto for nude males around hetero females.)

That is what is strange about that site. Doesnt ask height and weight, which factor in hugely. Like a certain proportion head looks different on a slim or large boned man. A wide face can be a fat man. A big head looks OK if you have wide shoulders but not if you are slim.

Etnicity also features. Central europeans have square shaped heads. Anglos haveg faced. Asians have triangular heads. You can see this buying bike helmets. Asian brands dont fit my head and pinch.But the german and italian helmets are fine. people with wide cheeks and narrow chin prefer asian helmets.

retiredfrank wrote:In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

What is it with your obsession with accusing other men of homosexuality? Is it because you are insecure because you can see a man's face and think, "That is an attractive man." and that doesn't happen to me, so you lash out at me?

It could conceivable have some work in the future where it would be useful for me to know a little about this area of research, so it makes sense for me to have a general idea of this and a variety of research areas. I found this topic interesting-- what makes someone be perceived as attractive by the majority, and I thought it was relevant to the forum.

Your reaction made me curious, so I asked six different men, in Asia where the concern with being perceived as gay is not as big a deal, if they could perceive if a man was good-looking. Out of six, two said they could and the rest could not. A couple of them said that was something that women knew.

Btw, I haven't used the app. I'd have to read the terms. I'm not sure I'd want them to have a picture of my face. But I wouldn't mind using it. I'm already married, so it is not that important whether other women consider me good-looking, much less a computer program.

Since some men, myself included, have little to no perception of whether a man is good-looking, the app might help some guys set realistic expectations for themselves.

Kradmelder wrote:Interesting. I got 8.94

Face has good horizontal symmetry
ratio of your nose length to ear length nearly ideal
compared to eye width your inneroccular distance nearly ideal
ratio of face width to nose width nearly ideal
ratio of face length to faec width nearly ideal
ratio of your mouth width to nose width nearly ideal


But sure that cant be all? Race must feature as they have different shape skulls and features

That would seem to be one of the problems with the theory that beauty is a combination of the golden ratio and symmetry. Ancient Greeks were white, and if the Greeks used the ratio, it may measure 'white beauty.' I think Venus de Milo is plain at best. If the statue was really supposed to be Aphrodite, the personification of beauty, then the Greeks had a very different idea of beauty from mine.

I saw a webpage that showed 'averaged' faces of women in different countries. Most of the faces were pretty. It could be that deviation from the mean in terms of ratios of distance of one feature from another makes individuals not beautiful in the eyes of most people. The method did use a human artist, though, and I don't know how much it was influenced by the aesthetic preferences of the artists. The method could be unreliable. And while those faces were attractive, many of them weren't the prettiest faces of the world. I didn't think all the African or South American faces were pretty. It could be that certain races have traits that deviate from the golden ratio, and that people raised among those races have a different ratio in their mind to perceive beauty.

And of course, ratios and symmetry could be just two factors our minds pick up on and we don't know the others. There are also cultural preferences for beauty that influence individuals and individual preferences. Preferred body weight is different across cultures across time.

There are also purely individual preferences as well. I hear men who had fatter mothers prefer fatter women, too.

MrMan wrote:

retiredfrank wrote:In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

What is it with your obsession with accusing other men of homosexuality?

The only person I'm suggesting is a freak of some sort is you (and Adama, but he is a freak in all sorts of ways whereas you are just a freak about men's appearance).

MrMan wrote:Your reaction made me curious, so I asked six different men, in Asia where the concern with being perceived as gay is not as big a deal, if they could perceive if a man was good-looking. Out of six, two said they could and the rest could not. A couple of them said that was something that women knew.

First, birds of a feather flock together, so maybe these acquaintances of yours are as freakish as you. Other possibility is that you freaked them out with your freakish question. I'd probably be unnerved by some freaky guy asking me such a question out of the blue and would probably give an evasive answer myself to get rid of him.

If you didn't even try the app, you shouldn't be posting it here. We can all use google to find this and many other similar apps and websites, which have been around for decades. You have an obsession with this subject of men's appearance, dude.

retiredfrank wrote:

MrMan wrote:

retiredfrank wrote:In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

What is it with your obsession with accusing other men of homosexuality?

The only person I'm suggesting is a freak of some sort is you (and Adama, but he is a freak in all sorts of ways whereas you are just a freak about men's appearance).

You don't even know anything about me. There's not much which I've revealed to you.

Well, that 's the way of science- to try to MAKE everything adhere to their style- real body-snatcher types those scientists seem to be. Probably has something to do with arrogance.

Not saying I don't want to try it, but I'm more worried about what a woman would think than a computer. Plus, as Kradmelder said, BODY is hugely important- if you're jacked in a strong way (not just looks with cut abs & such), that will be big. Then again, some women are weird- they want a weak man assuming they'd hurt them. Usually the other way around isn't it? Trying to not feel feeble by flexing on someone easy to harm?

I take that with a grain of salt. Reason being you can fudge the placement of the number on your face and get different numbers. I think also what pictures you use plays a factor.

retiredfrank wrote:

MrMan wrote:

retiredfrank wrote:In my opinion, it is less homo to be able to recognize a good-looking man when you see one than to spend time diddling around with these narcissism-inducing beauty rating apps and websites and constantly obsessing about the subject. Something for MrMan to think about.

What is it with your obsession with accusing other men of homosexuality?

The only person I'm suggesting is a freak of some sort is you (and Adama, but he is a freak in all sorts of ways whereas you are just a freak about men's appearance).

retiredfrank,
You know what. You don't need to lash out out of insecurity. If you can tell if some men are attractive, that doesn't mean we think you are gay, so you don't have to attack other people who cannot tell. I'm not obsessed with the topic. I did find it strange that someone would react so strongly to the idea that a man couldn't perceive other men as attractive. I wondered how common that was. But you don't have to feel threatened and go into attack mode.

First, birds of a feather flock together, so maybe these acquaintances of yours are as freakish as you. Other possibility is that you freaked them out with your freakish question. I'd probably be unnerved by some freaky guy asking me such a question out of the blue and would probably give an evasive answer myself to get rid of him.

Or you could just be talking out of your you-know-what. You weren't there. I worked the topic into the conversation. With my co-workers, I tied it into our work over a lunch conversation. My small data sample of about 6 gave me reasonable results that weren't too shocking. Two men out of six could tell if another man was good-looking. They were both married men. I think all were except that one young guy. None of them seemed to be homosexual or effeminate. My inability to perceive male attractiveness or to have an opinion on it is not unusual, and it probably isnt' that unusual for men to be able to tell if other men are good-looking.

If you didn't even try the app, you shouldn't be posting it here. We can all use google to find this and many other similar apps and websites, which have been around for decades. You have an obsession with this subject of men's appearance, dude.

Obsession? No. But I thought your reaction was unusual and I wanted to know if it was usual for men to perceive this. The app I posted can be used for men or women. I can post just about any link I want here. Racists are given free reign to post, and I don't think there are any major restrictions except for porn as long as you don't threaten people or engage in some serious slander or something like that.

An app that tells whether your or someone else's picture is supposed to be good-looking is an interesting topic for a forum like this. If you don't like my post, you don't have to read or respond.