kai1275 wrote:Anyone thinking the planet is overcrowded is terrible at mathematics. I guess you are one of the many "emotional" types DJ just posted about. I don't know why you need a website to promote mass suicide of the human species. That is already happening! Give it 20-30 years and governments will be begging people to have kids once their military/govt revenue and spending shrinks, especially China, Japan, most of Europe and the US especially.dreamer82 wrote:I think a lot of guys who have kids have them because a women fell for them and coaxed them into a relationship or marriage. A line these girls use is something like, "I want to have your children". All five or six of my closest friends in high school ended up with kids, two for each. I was kind of shocked that they did since I'm a born pessimist and had doubts about our economy since the '80s.
Luckily I'm a stereotypical tall, thin Caucasian "nice guy" and aloof so I never had many AW after me. I did have a couple opportunities with Koreans but I let them down. I think I secretly didn't want to have kids or even get married. It came down to money and I thought the chances were good I would get divorced because I'm a cheap bastard. Now that I'm in my forties and my sex drive is more manageable, I'm glad I didn't go through with the whole kids and marriage thing.
Besides being cheap and pessimistic, the biggest reason why I'm glad I didn't have kids is that we're a blight on the resources. Raising up little American suburbanites who have to be driven everywhere and will end up driving everywhere polluting the atmosphere is wrong I think. Our culture is also a joke. If I lived on a farm in Kazakhstan, then having a family would be practical.
Will they offer tax and money incentives to do this? If inflation gets too high, will anyone bother? Will there be too many gays and herbivores? Who knows....
All of you are fighting nature for a preference in multiple flavors of dysfunction. I won't hate on any of you for your choices though. The average man would never fight for something like this, considering how this world is hell bent on social engineering the destruction of family. Family is what allowed our species to rise to power, but perhaps they think we are better off without it. Only a man driven by faith or fervor would resist and try regardless of the circumstances.
/I bet if Zerg-like Aliens threatened Earth tomorrow, I bet you Obama and other presidents would quickly offer assistance to any humans willing to make children ASAP.
I think that much of the push to not have children is because of the push by the inconclusive studies on overpopulation and individualism in wealthy nations. There is plenty of land to support many people in many countries. Most of the US is populated on the cost for example. Also, I think having children is a personal decision. dreamer has a weak argument of the overpopulation theory but with children being a strain in the modern day US, that is true. I think if you want to have children you should look to have them in another country. Your wife might not change (most people in HA are married to foreign women and/or interested in a relationship with them) however your children will be influenced by the culture unless you actively teach them to be good and well-informed people. I still think that other countries offer an area to raise children.