Another Daily Shooting in America.

[lone_yakuza]

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[abcdavid01]

Hikikomori is a product of Japanese society not giving credible alternatives to the typical Japanese man way of life: try hard to get into a good school, pass the exam for a good uni, enter ABC Corporation as an office boy and try and climb the ladder while enduring the 14 hours a day working hours, marry the first young woman you met in high school or college who's still eligible, buy a house on a 35 year mortgage, keep on working, see very little of your wife and kids because you prefer drink up the night with your workmates. If you're lucky, really lucky you will retire on a good pension and spend the remaining 5/10 years of your life tending your flowers and carving wooden masks at the local senior citizen club. End of.

This routine was easy to sell and easy to accept so long the social contract on both parts (the individual and the society) was still holding. With its 30th year of almost continuous recession, Japanese companies prefer to outsource to China, the Philippines or Vietnam, so much of the past 2 "soldier generations" are tired to fight a lost battle. Many of them won't even begin to fight. There are not enough jobs, and Japanese young men are smart enough to roam the Internet, read about different ways of living and drawing the consequences.

The question now to consider is, with the global recession that at least for America looks like that start of our own lost decade(s), will hikikomori like activities begin to prevail in the West? I can only speak for America where I suspect they already have.

I agree with you and Outwest, for that matter. The problem is, the kind of societal-level change you advocate is impossible, not just because it would take too much time and resources, but because the powers to be have designed society to be dysfunctional and breed dysfunction after dysfunction. Only a society that is kept in a permanent state of misery and frustration will easily turn to material surrogates: games and i-Shit, new cars, clothes and jewellery, binge eating/drinking, etc. Even what you label as "feminism" is just the reflection of this kind of conditioning on women. Women react by f***ing everything that moves. Men react killing pixelated characters on a HDTV screen and, (very) few of them end up killing them for real.

This is why I have turned my attention from Feminism to Post-Modernism.

Back to the topic, the only thing society can do to prevent these horrible tragedies from repeating themselves is to act on the short-term, "incumbent" danger. Limit the frequency and violence with which these episodes occur. How about issuing a permanent ban on gun possession on all households which contain a sex offender, or a felon, or a young man (or woman) under 25 with a certified emotional/social/learning disability? You say such a definition would include too many false positives? Well, then how we define a false positive?

There's more, methinks. The Newtown shooting is not just a product of videogame + real gun + social disability kid combined. It's a product of the coveted upper middle class of suburban America that "no see, no speak, no hear". American Beauty was a great portrait of what lies beneath those lovely landscaped gardens, what brews behind those fresco walls and what is consumed inside those young hearts. That's a place where social services are out of place, where it's politically incorrect to even assume that there might be something toxic, something ready to explode, in a single mom with a stash of military-grade weapons in her cupboard and a kids whose mental health was continuing to deteriorate year after year. Upper class suburbia is a place too posh for the US social services, for the cops, for a slightly nosier member of the local community.

Okay, so I understand you on timing. I'd probably be convinced on those proposals as well. How do you stop someone from targeting a maternity ward next? I mean, for me the answer is just leaving and finding a society less likely to have these worries. That's happier abroad. Of course other societies have their own problems, but for me, crazed mass murderers is pretty bad. More unsettling than mere homicide or organized crime, etc.

[abcdavid01]

You say you graduated from one of the top 10 universities in the US. What if I told you that social policies created in the same corridors you used to walk, roaming from lecture to lecture, are directly responsible for your situation, and that of other million Americans (let alone the BILLIONS non-American over the past 50 years). Wouldn't that suggest you it's better to go and kill those self-assured academics? It's (very) obviously an hyperbole, but same goes for politicians and advisors, bankers and economists.

I address this problem here: viewtopic.php?t=17083

I was just reading this blog post claiming William F. Buckley (and Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilley, etc.) are Leftists. Here's a quote:

"The reason that Buckley is a leftist is the reason that most of us are leftists. To associate with polite company in modern America is to be (or at least feign being) a leftist of some sort. Try reading one of our articles out loud in your college classroom and see what happens (hint: expulsion)"

The Post-Modernists have made it impossible to even have real discussions challenging their views.

Do the sort of people who commit violent crimes commit more crimes when they watch violence? And the answer appears to be no, for the simple reason that they can't commit crimes and watch movies simultaneously.

It is experiments like these that make me continue to doubt the viability of democracy.

There is something disturbing about your post Yakuza. How far are we to go with this? Should there be First Person Shooter games where you go on a rampage in an office killing coworkers? Or simulate attacking a school? There's rape porn as a genre, but we also have laws against child pornography. Of course the argument is made that it's child abuse, but the academics, the moral relativists, they would say there's nothing objectively wrong with child porn. And simulations circumvent the legal aspect entirely. Can you imagine a society producing child sex bots? My God. It's almost as bad as systematically murdering newborns with a hammer.

[lone_yakuza]

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[lone_yakuza]

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[abcdavid01]

You say you graduated from one of the top 10 universities in the US. What if I told you that social policies created in the same corridors you used to walk, roaming from lecture to lecture, are directly responsible for your situation, and that of other million Americans (let alone the BILLIONS non-American over the past 50 years). Wouldn't that suggest you it's better to go and kill those self-assured academics? It's (very) obviously an hyperbole, but same goes for politicians and advisors, bankers and economists.

I address this problem here: viewtopic.php?t=17083

I was just reading this blog post claiming William F. Buckley (and Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilley, etc.) are Leftists. Here's a quote:

"The reason that Buckley is a leftist is the reason that most of us are leftists. To associate with polite company in modern America is to be (or at least feign being) a leftist of some sort. Try reading one of our articles out loud in your college classroom and see what happens (hint: expulsion)"

The Post-Modernists have made it impossible to even have real discussions challenging their views.

Except that I think you are confused.

Most of the "rightists" are racists and would have us go back to the time when it was legal to lynch East Asian males and black/African males and pillage and rape non-white/caucasian nations. They are still pillaging and raping non-anglosaxoncaucasian nations and imposing their imperialism at present. They simply want more freedom to do so.

They believe "might is right" yet cower and complain and scream and moan when East Asia is on the rise. So if they really believe might is right, then they have no right to complain when East Asia destroys the west and comes here to pillage and rape and destroy the anglosaxons/anglosphere/western imperialists.


And in fact, that would be justified given the undeniable facts of history. It would simply be giving these right-wingers a taste of their own medicine.

I've had political discussions (arguements) with rightwingers, and they always shout down any point I bring up about trying to solve things through diplomacy instead of the west's constant "might is right" "non-whites are inferior" dialogue. They always shout people like me down and try to prevent me from talking.

Right wingers are no different than left wingers when it comes to "making it impossible to have a real discussion."

There is no discussion to be had. They hate people like me for being what I am, an East Asian male. Therefore, my only possible response is to annihilate them and wipe them off the face of the earth because that is what they want to do to me and my kind.

East Asia needs to realize this and stop sucking up to America, because America's ultimate goal through cultural imperialism, hollywood poisoning, and past western imperialist colonialist approaches, has always been to conquer, divide, and control East Asia and its inhabitants and still to this day views East Asians as "inferior."

There is no dialogue to be had. It is war and has always been war.

Bill O'Reilly is no leftist at all. He is a right wing asshole who does not want to hear anything the opposition wants to say.

In the end, these are irreconcilable worldviews and because the races/phenotypes are completely different.

The rightwing racist KKK white supremacist anglosaxons and other western european imperialists who currently side with "America" and the American Empire VS the leftwing anti-racist, anti-imperialist, equalists who side with the rest of the world, which largely just wants to see a world without racial hierarchy,


but if that is not possible, I would rather see my own ethnicity/race at the "top" than have to continue to suffer under the affects of western imperialist white supremacist psychological warfare through hollywood and western media.

You're looking at it through a lens of empiricism based on your own experiences. I'm not held down by that idiotic racial destiny crap. Frankly I think it's just a matter of linguistics. Words like liberal and conservative have completely opposite meanings based on the context. The fact that they'd whine about the rise of Asia just means they are not the people I am referring to. A true right winger, under the definition I would use, would praise the rise of progress no matter the source. The proof is in what is tangible. I think outsourcing is wonderful for example.

I think the greatest modern right winger is Lee Kuan Yew for how he transformed Singapore.

[lone_yakuza]

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[abcdavid01]

I don't consider myself conservative. In America, a strong belief in capitalism is considered conservative, but capitalism itself is anti-conservative because it requires constant innovation. I think the greatest modern right winger is Lee Kuan Yew for his transformation of Singapore.

[abcdavid01]

Great article examining reactions:

http://therightstuff.biz/2012/12/18/sho ... stupidity/

So what IS the root cause? The shooting sprees that popularized this phenomena began within the US Postal system and consisted of blatant revenge killings against supervisors and management who had either fired, disciplined, or in many cases, unfairly treated the gunman. Oftentimes the coworkers expressed complete understanding for the coworker responsible for the killings, and some were even spared purely because they were the only individuals to show the gunman a modicum of kindness. While it has been popular since day 1 to categorize mass shootings as the actions of lunatics and madmen, this simply isn’t true. The violence is never truly random, in fact, the great majority of the time the targets are very clearly seen as enemies by the gunman.

When you take a man, of any age, and deny him a sense of purpose, tell him he’s worthless, fire him from his long held job, or make him feel helpless and cut adrift in life, expect to reap the consequences. Men and women carry within them the genes of warriors, revolutionaries, and patriots, but the modern social order has commodified them into “human resourcesâ€￾ fit to be bought and sold at will. For men this is particularly horrible, as a meaningless existence of pushing buttons, moving stacks of paper around, or hawking cheap merchandise fails to satisfy a brain evolved from eons of hunting animals and killing adversaries. If you thought your prospects for the future consisted only in working at Walmart or getting laid off/fired from one meaningless job after another, while society marginalized your social group, you might think about going out in a blaze of destruction too. Funny how no one seems to connect the rising suicide rates, depression, and “mental illnessâ€￾ with common sense problems in modern culture. Suicide now kills more people than traffic accidents. Think about that, and let it sink in. People are choosing to end their own lives rather than deal with the mediocre tyranny of their mundane existence, and some of them are making a statement when they do it.

The problem isn’t the quantity or type of guns, the problem is the elephant in the room that we’re choosing to ignore: Our disintegrating society is poisoning us.