theprimebait wrote:its a FACT that all natural bodybuilders use some kind of chemical.they are liars.simple.
you can't get noticabely big without it.you may gain alot of muscle after a few yrs working out,but it will not be noticable if you have a shirt on.
No arguments there, the vast majority of natural bodybuilders DO use steroids at some point. They simply go off before it's time to test before the meet. The guys that get really big without steroids are the big-framed guys...no arguments there either. "Big" is all relative though. An ecto guy that is 6' CAN get up to 200lbs ripped without steroids. That is likely near his physical potential. You will still be able to tell that he works out unless he's wearing clothes that are way too big for him.
A big framed guy that doesn't lift weights that is 6' will be 200+ pounds without lifting. There are many variables to consider before assuming they are powerful. Many big framed guys are not strong, they do well to only carry their own frames around. If you throw them off balance, they will fall hard and will not be able to get up easily. Samoans are a special case as most of them are just built like a tank. That is why there are so many playing football. However, they do not have the pleasing physique that people generally want. Black guys generally have the greatest advantage overall with physique building because they have naturally high testosterone levels without having that huge frame.
Real steroids do NOT cost that much. I will not go into pricing of illegal steroids as I don't recommend going that route. However, they are less than scripted steroids that one gets through the pharmacy in the USA. Scripted testosterone cypionate (legal with script) is $100 per bottle. If you have good insurance, you'll only pay $5-$10 per bottle. This is brand name Pfizer Testosterone...can't get any better than that. That bottle has 10ml of 200mg/ml inside. Most people will see their testosterone levels go to teenager level or above using only 200mgs per week (1ml per week). That means that each bottle lasts 10 weeks so each week costs $10. You really think that is expensive? You might say that 200mgs is not that much, but it will raise your testosterone levels up to 1200ng/dl. A guy in their 30's is likely have around 600-700ng/dl levels...if they are lucky. Levels will decline year after year until death. They can get a script for testosterone if they are 300ng/dl or below. That is why I recommend blood work as a guy in his 30's with 300ng/dl or below is NOT living a very good life. I would never recommend that anyone use anything until they get their hormone blood panel as I really feel that only those that need it should take it.
Professional Bodybuilders will use much more Testosterone per week...unhealthy amounts. They will also use a number of other illegal steroid types as well as cutting drugs. They get much better deals than you would ever get and are connected in the underground market. I am positive that most do not spend more than $500/month on steroids alone. Much of the supplements they use (more expensive than steroids) are given to them for free...sponsored. They do eat a lot of only a certain kind of food so that is the most expensive part of their program. Outside of that, it's gym membership, tanning salon and special doctors visits to monitor their health constantly. This is not a healthy lifestyle by any means. Being 310lbs at 5'8" can never be healthy. Guys that big are the ones that look fat unless their shirt is off. I don't envy that look at all. I think that simply reaching natural potential is good enough. I'll bet only .001% of people in the USA ever reach their natural physical potential as it is...maybe even less. No man reaches their ultimate physical potential at 18 years of age, despite what many Americans might think...lol
