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publicduende wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 8:50 am
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October 19th, 2023, 10:16 am
I don't like Jews or Muslims. The former are neurotic tribalists with a chosen people complex and a culture of Talmudic anti-Gentile racism while the latter are backward savages who practice a barbaric desert religion and belong in the 6th century. Muslims might act friendly to your face and even share our hatred of Israel and Zionism, but I don't doubt for a second that the more fanatical among them would like to conquer Europe and force their "religion of peace" upon everyone else by the sword if they could. That's why I generally don't trust Muslims and certainly don't want large numbers of them pouring into Europe. I'm not even into right-wing politics either, just for the record (most right-wingers in America and Europe are pathetic cucks for Israel). I'm just using common sense.

Israel is indeed a hostile Zionist warmonger state - especially under the government of Netanyahu and his Kabbalist handlers - even if the average secular Israeli might be friendly and welcoming, and so my first instinct is to support Palestine since they are fighting for their very survival against a state that wants to genocide them (and which possibly used a false flag terror attack as a pretext). I don't like Muslims or any Abrahamists because of their barbaric religion and tendency towards blind fanaticism, but the Palestinians are still human beings - human beings living in utter deprivation. Their fight for survival is legitimate.

That said, the nations of the West and elsewhere must absolutely avoid being dragged into a large-scale war. If a government does declare war, the ordinary people must oppose it en masse. The Kabbalists wish to bring about WW3 - a catastrophic conflict between the West (Leviathan) and Eurasia (Behemoth) - in order to bring the Gentile world to utter destruction for the arrival of the Messiah. Gentiles who support war are being tricked into unwittingly supporting the Kabbalist agenda. The only end result of such a conflict will be destruction and loss of human life on a scale far beyond what most people can imagine. That's exactly what the Kabbalists want since they view us non-Jews as impure souls of the Sitra Achra.

The true fight is against the Kabbalists, Zionists and NWO elite - the now not-so-hidden cabal that not-so-secretly rules over our nations. Those evildoers and national traitors must be deposed by the people and tried for their crimes against humanity that are stacked high up to heaven itself. The fight isn't against other nations. Unfortunately, most people today are just too clueless to understand what's going on at a higher level. They're too hypnotized by the idiot box and dumbed down with fluoride and SSRIs. :(
If almost 15 years walking on eggshells in "multicultural" London, where your chance to annoy or offend anyone are amplified tenfold, have taught me anything, it's that stereotyping is usually bad. This, especially in a big city where every permutation of ehtnicity, religion, and socio-economic status is represented, and for each person who seems to fit a stereotype, you also know 2 who don't.

The definitions you provide, for both "the Jews" and "the Muslims" apply very well to specific communities. For the Jews, I like to specifically use the terms "Zionism" and "Zionists" to indicate those extremist fringes who believe to be the "chosen race" and that Jesus will triumphantly escort them back to Jerusalem, once "the times have come". Saying that "all Jewish people are extremist, warmongering and racist" is like saying that "all Italians are mafiosos".

For small it is, both Israeli Jewish and its diaspora are mostly composed of culturally elevated people who have way too much intellectual honesty to surrender to stereotypes. More or less vocally, they all condemn what the US and Likud-driven Israel has done to the world (Muslim and not). They all want peace, a friendly and serene life embraced by their families and friends. Some of them are ambitious and high-flying and complicate their lives. For these kinds of peoiple, I wouldn't say their lives are more complicated than any other community making the same life choices.

I always got along well with Jewish people, albeit, admittedly, I never met anyone from the more orthodox and extremist fringe, apart from crossing their path in Golders Green.

I can speak by direct experience, though. I did my undergraduate thesis with two London Jewish Professors, Sandler and Davies, who both gave me even more credit I was due. Prof. Sandler even offered me a Phd, with a full scholarship, at one of the University of London campus. Refusing the offer was one of te hardest decision in my life.

About Muslims, I think the same pattern applies. When you realise that the vast majority of Muslims in the world are not uneducated, gullible, radical(ised), you are struck with the strong perception that they, too, are fully deserving our respect and love.

With the Jews and the Muslims, we are talking about two cultures who have been long "hijacked" by charismatic and dangerous ideologies. The state of Israel was an act of forceful reclamation and consolidation of lands where Muslims and Jews have been (mostly) PEACEFULLY living together for centuries. In the eyes of Ben Gurion, the US State and the financiers behind (like the Rothschild), an Israel nation was the fulfilling of a biblical promise. The religious excuse was used as a pretext for a political act that never had half a leg to stand on.

Likewise, Khomeini found a void after British support waned and quickly overthrew the last Shah of Persia, with the populist pretext that it was time for the Arab world to get back at the Christian colonisers and shine again. Ironically, the peak of the Arab world was during the Ottoman Empire, where the practice of Islam was anything but radical and allowed science, art and trade to flourish while Europe was just about coming out of the dark ages.

The emergence of radical fringes who push an entire nation to unspeakable acts, which obviously DO NOT represent the majority, is not uncommon, anyway. It happened with the various Communist and Facist regimes all over Europe. Yet, would you look at me in the eyes and seriously say that all Italians are Fascists, or all Spaniards are hypocrite radical Catholic a-la Opus Dei? Sure, some are, but not all.

I was reading a nice article just last night, on how the word "difference" is assuming a negative connotation, in favour or the more woke term "diversity". "Differences" will always exist across peoples, even if the arabesques of history often paint them with similar colours. For different and unique may be, I remain of the opinion that the majority of people from any cross-section of country, ethnicity, society, and community, are just standard fare family men and women who want nothing but the best for themselves and those around them.
I'll believe that horseshit when they stop coming to my country only hiring their own people. I could care less because I'm not interested in loving everyone. I don't even get along with most blacks, so I'm hostile as hell to all of them and don't even care what anyone thinks. The fact is you cant blame people for distrusting Muslims. They see their people beheading folks in Europe and are they protesting against the beheadings? Are they demanding that shit to stop? Are they challenging their own people face to face?

All I see them doing here is bitching about LBGTQ shit in schools but they don't put nearly as much energy like that into the violence their own people commit against people, like it's their right to come here and change things if it doesn't align with their religion or where they came from. If they can whine about gays then they can complain about the beheadings. But I hardly ever see Muslims criticizing their own people publicly they are just as bad as blacks that rarely bother to call out the niggatry behavior.

Until they call out their own I don't give a shit what they want for their families when they move to these other countries. I remember when a group of Asian boys jumped on me and beat me up when I was about 11 years old and there were at least five of them that jumped on me. There were bystanders everywhere within that Asian community that saw it happen, but when my mom called the cops they asked every one there what happened. Did anyone snitch? No! Because these communities you speak of only stick by each other, they don't give two f***s about "diversity" or caring about other people when they move to these other countries.

All they care about is looking out for their own people which is why the vast majority of them don't hire anyone other than their own people. Here in America I challenge you to walk into any store that's owned by a Muslim, Asian, Mexican, Indian, etc and I guarantee you all their employees are of the same ethnicity as themselves and speak the language. It puzzles my mind how people like yourself are always quick to defend some of these people like just because they smile in your face that makes them un-judgable. The only people in the U.S. that get called out for anything is Caucasians. Everyone else have free reign to discriminate because the laws don't really apply to them, especially immigrants who are treated a hell of a lot better than the actual citizens.


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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:55 am
I'll believe that horseshit when they stop coming to my country only hiring their own people. I could care less because I'm not interested in loving everyone. I don't even get along with most blacks, so I'm hostile as hell to all of them and don't even care what anyone thinks. The fact is you cant blame people for distrusting Muslims. They see their people beheading folks in Europe and are they protesting against the beheadings? Are they demanding that shit to stop? Are they challenging their own people face to face?

All I see them doing here is bitching about LBGTQ shit in schools but they don't put nearly as much energy like that into the violence their own people commit against said people, like it's their right to come here and change things if it doesn't align with their religion or where they came from. If they can whine about gays then they can complain about the beheadings. But I hardly ever see Muslims criticizing their own publicly they are just as bad as blacks that rarely bother to call out the niggatry behavior.

Until they call out their own I don't give a shit what they want for their families when they move to these other countries. Look how some of them Africans are sexually attacking women in Italy, and I dont' see not ONE African saying that shit needs to stop. I remember when a group of Asian boys jumped on me and beat me up when I was about 11 years old. Every single person within that Asian community saw it, but when my mom called the cops. Did anyone snitch? No! Because these communities you speak of only stick by each other, they don't give two f***s about "diversity" or caring about other people when they move to these other countries.
Dude, if you have a rage problem, it's your problem. I, too, hate the guts out of the faceless elites who truly rule the world, many of whom are Jews. Instead of consuming ourselves with frustration because such elites are too powerful and their narrative too strong, for the average and below-average mind at least, we could at least try to look at the positives.

The positives being that the vast majority, of Jews are normal people, with higher-than-average education and socio-economic status, intelligent. Many girls have big tits, which doesn't hurt :)

The negative about bullying and raping is that, whatever kinds of people is perpetrated by, it fails to make the news, unless there's this or that unusual detail. Over the past week, only two rape cases made the Italian headlines. One where an 89-yo old lady, with mental problems, was raped for an hour, riight in his condominium's hallway. The other where a man was raped by a woman. Perp was white Italian, in both cases.

About kid gangs mugging and beating up other kids, I was also attacked several times. One time one of these kid criminals, ofter below the minimum age for imprisonment (12 in Italy) grabbed by glasses while I was riding my bike home. I instinctively rode the bike to chase him, until he turned into a cul de sac where 2 more kids were waiting. It was a trap, it was the bike they wanted. Ironically, the glasses were brand new and more expensive than the bike. I ran after them and when I lost sight of them I asked a few people who were sitting outside. Of course nobody saw anything and anyone.

These things would happen, in the typical Southern Italian town. I think the situation is even worse now. I have never loved the "topini" and the Mafioso families behind them, but I also recognised that the majority of the 60,000+ inhabitants of my home town were not criminals.
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:50 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:39 am
The below link has actual videos of Rabbis explaining why it is good to kill children. These creeps are insane murderers and they are supported by our tax dollars. And the only thing that keeps them from doing the same to us as they do to the Palestinians is they don't have the power yet. That is why you are stupid if you don't support the palestinians.

https://rumble.com/v3q9h70-war-of-the-s ... dam-g.html
Is this being exposed to more people? This is the main issue, no major news outlet is going to report this stuff to the masses.
I don't support either side because the Palestinians aren't exactly fighting this war themselves, it's Hamas. And they are terrorist.
No way in hell I'm supporting any terror group. I don't even support the U.S. troops because they are terrorist themselves.
I can understand Hamas. They grew up in poverty with the boot on their neck. Imagine how miserable your life has to be when you decide your only realistic option in life is to fly a hanglider over your prison wall and shoot people. If these Jewish supremisists take over, you will have a chance to find out. They are merciless.
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MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 10:28 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:50 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:39 am
The below link has actual videos of Rabbis explaining why it is good to kill children. These creeps are insane murderers and they are supported by our tax dollars. And the only thing that keeps them from doing the same to us as they do to the Palestinians is they don't have the power yet. That is why you are stupid if you don't support the palestinians.

https://rumble.com/v3q9h70-war-of-the-s ... dam-g.html
Is this being exposed to more people? This is the main issue, no major news outlet is going to report this stuff to the masses.
I don't support either side because the Palestinians aren't exactly fighting this war themselves, it's Hamas. And they are terrorist.
No way in hell I'm supporting any terror group. I don't even support the U.S. troops because they are terrorist themselves.
I can understand Hamas. They grew up in poverty with the boot on their neck. Imagine how miserable your life has to be when you decide your only realistic option in life is to fly a hanglider over your prison wall and shoot people. If these Jewish supremisists take over, you will have a chance to find out. They are merciless.
Well here is the thing though, if Hamas is only attacking them that's one thing. But if they decide to attack us and Europe how does that justify anything? I mean a few days ago one Ex-Hamas leader had announced in a video for Jihadist and Muslims everywhere to attack the U.S. and Europe on Oct 13, but nothing happened. Now the instigators however like the Conservatives sucking that jew cock all day every day are responsible just as much since they are the ones pushing for a war to happen. These are the same idiots that condemn the Ukraine war, but now they are full blown hypocrites. I really don't know much about Hamas, but someone also said that Israel had funded Hamas. Either way the Jews aren't going to lose this war....Not if the U.S. get involved they won't. I recall Biden telling all other nations not to intervene in this war, yet the U.S. is doing exactly that shit, INTERVENING. And will most likely put troops there to fight since they are already wasting our money supporting the Jew f***s. I don't think most Conservatives who are Pro-Israel are even aware of how awful these people are. Plus you got Desantis talking about he's going to make it illegal for anyone to criticize them, f***er even signed the shit in Israel.
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 10:44 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 10:28 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:50 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:39 am
The below link has actual videos of Rabbis explaining why it is good to kill children. These creeps are insane murderers and they are supported by our tax dollars. And the only thing that keeps them from doing the same to us as they do to the Palestinians is they don't have the power yet. That is why you are stupid if you don't support the palestinians.

https://rumble.com/v3q9h70-war-of-the-s ... dam-g.html
Is this being exposed to more people? This is the main issue, no major news outlet is going to report this stuff to the masses.
I don't support either side because the Palestinians aren't exactly fighting this war themselves, it's Hamas. And they are terrorist.
No way in hell I'm supporting any terror group. I don't even support the U.S. troops because they are terrorist themselves.
I can understand Hamas. They grew up in poverty with the boot on their neck. Imagine how miserable your life has to be when you decide your only realistic option in life is to fly a hanglider over your prison wall and shoot people. If these Jewish supremisists take over, you will have a chance to find out. They are merciless.
Well here is the thing though, if Hamas is only attacking them that's one thing. But if they decide to attack us and Europe how does that justify anything? I mean a few days ago one Ex-Hamas leader had announced in a video for Jihadist and Muslims everywhere to attack the U.S. and Europe on Oct 13, but nothing happened. Now the instigators however like the Conservatives sucking that jew cock all day every day are responsible just as much since they are the ones pushing for a war to happen. These are the same idiots that condemn the Ukraine war, but now they are full blown hypocrites. I really don't know much about Hamas, but someone also said that Israel had funded Hamas. Either way the Jews aren't going to lose this war....Not if the U.S. get involved they won't. I recall Biden telling all other nations not to intervene in this war, yet the U.S. is doing exactly that shit, INTERVENING. And will most likely put troops there to fight since they are already wasting our money supporting the Jew f***s. I don't think most Conservatives who are Pro-Israel are even aware of how awful these people are. Plus you got Desantis talking about he's going to make it illegal for anyone to criticize them, f***er even signed the shit in Israel.
Because the US is supplying all the weapons to kill them. Israel couldn't do anything without the US writing a blank check. That makes us as responsible as Netenyahoo.
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MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 12:04 pm
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 10:44 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 10:28 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:50 am
MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 9:39 am
The below link has actual videos of Rabbis explaining why it is good to kill children. These creeps are insane murderers and they are supported by our tax dollars. And the only thing that keeps them from doing the same to us as they do to the Palestinians is they don't have the power yet. That is why you are stupid if you don't support the palestinians.

https://rumble.com/v3q9h70-war-of-the-s ... dam-g.html
Is this being exposed to more people? This is the main issue, no major news outlet is going to report this stuff to the masses.
I don't support either side because the Palestinians aren't exactly fighting this war themselves, it's Hamas. And they are terrorist.
No way in hell I'm supporting any terror group. I don't even support the U.S. troops because they are terrorist themselves.
I can understand Hamas. They grew up in poverty with the boot on their neck. Imagine how miserable your life has to be when you decide your only realistic option in life is to fly a hanglider over your prison wall and shoot people. If these Jewish supremisists take over, you will have a chance to find out. They are merciless.
Well here is the thing though, if Hamas is only attacking them that's one thing. But if they decide to attack us and Europe how does that justify anything? I mean a few days ago one Ex-Hamas leader had announced in a video for Jihadist and Muslims everywhere to attack the U.S. and Europe on Oct 13, but nothing happened. Now the instigators however like the Conservatives sucking that jew cock all day every day are responsible just as much since they are the ones pushing for a war to happen. These are the same idiots that condemn the Ukraine war, but now they are full blown hypocrites. I really don't know much about Hamas, but someone also said that Israel had funded Hamas. Either way the Jews aren't going to lose this war....Not if the U.S. get involved they won't. I recall Biden telling all other nations not to intervene in this war, yet the U.S. is doing exactly that shit, INTERVENING. And will most likely put troops there to fight since they are already wasting our money supporting the Jew f***s. I don't think most Conservatives who are Pro-Israel are even aware of how awful these people are. Plus you got Desantis talking about he's going to make it illegal for anyone to criticize them, f***er even signed the shit in Israel.
Because the US is supplying all the weapons to kill them. Israel couldn't do anything without the US writing a blank check. That makes us as responsible as Netenyahoo.
Thats why it surprises me why the world never condemns America no matter what this country does people never condemn the U.S. A few Muslim nations might be pissed and angry at them, but that's about it. Everywhere else just seem cool and okay with every bullshit thing this nation does to someone, doesn't matter how many countries they ruin people are still never threaten to part ways with the West. But it's as Marcos was saying...Every last one of these nations is controlled by the same shadowy dickheads. America could make a recording cutting a kids hands off and people still wouldn't hate the country or cut ties with them. Plus I feel like they are purposely trying to f**k us, and set us up. It's only a matter of time before one of these false flags happen.

That will give the U.S. the okay to invade yet another country on the list. And then after they finish? Bring more refugees right on over...Seriously f**k both the U.S. and Israel. That's why when Trump was going off on Biden being corrupt, I'm like "dude your corrupt too! Look who you f***ing serve?" It's just that for some reason jews like the Democrat side better than the Republican side. So they always support the Democrats more. But recently they found out that the leftist strongly hate Jews and Israel. Unlike the Conservative cucks, the left doesn't cuck for them or at very least doesn't give much of a shit about them and root for their deaths. The very people the Jews have been using to spread the agenda hate them. I dont know why the left hates them but I've seen some videos of that BLM founder wishing death upon them and stuff.
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MrPeabody wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 2:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isY8BLBIZyc
I'm still not choosing either side. Palestinians have the terrorism stench on them. Like I said it's one thing if they were going after the people that did them wrong. But if its true they attacked defenseless women and kids, took people hostage and murdered them they lose any credibility of claiming to be victims of anything. I know from what most stuff is posted on this war is propaganda. But this entire Palestinians vs Israel war created more of a divide between people in the Western world that shouldn't even be including themselves in this war at all. You have all the pro-Israel people who are mostly White Conservative twats. Palestinians it's mostly leftist supporting them. But make no mistake about it, they still come from a religion that promotes violence toward non-believers. We'll know for sure if we start having terror attacks in the U.S. and Europe most of which will be staged/false flags anyway. I've read enough horror stories about both sides committing acts of evil against people.
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publicduende wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 8:50 am
Lucas88 wrote:
October 19th, 2023, 10:16 am
I don't like Jews or Muslims. The former are neurotic tribalists with a chosen people complex and a culture of Talmudic anti-Gentile racism while the latter are backward savages who practice a barbaric desert religion and belong in the 6th century. Muslims might act friendly to your face and even share our hatred of Israel and Zionism, but I don't doubt for a second that the more fanatical among them would like to conquer Europe and force their "religion of peace" upon everyone else by the sword if they could. That's why I generally don't trust Muslims and certainly don't want large numbers of them pouring into Europe. I'm not even into right-wing politics either, just for the record (most right-wingers in America and Europe are pathetic cucks for Israel). I'm just using common sense.
If almost 15 years walking on eggshells in "multicultural" London, where your chance to annoy or offend anyone are amplified tenfold, have taught me anything, it's that stereotyping is usually bad. This, especially in a big city where every permutation of ehtnicity, religion, and socio-economic status is represented, and for each person who seems to fit a stereotype, you also know 2 who don't.

The definitions you provide, for both "the Jews" and "the Muslims" apply very well to specific communities. For the Jews, I like to specifically use the terms "Zionism" and "Zionists" to indicate those extremist fringes who believe to be the "chosen race" and that Jesus will triumphantly escort them back to Jerusalem, once "the times have come". Saying that "all Jewish people are extremist, warmongering and racist" is like saying that "all Italians are mafiosos".

For small it is, both Israeli Jewish and its diaspora are mostly composed of culturally elevated people who have way too much intellectual honesty to surrender to stereotypes. More or less vocally, they all condemn what the US and Likud-driven Israel has done to the world (Muslim and not). They all want peace, a friendly and serene life embraced by their families and friends. Some of them are ambitious and high-flying and complicate their lives. For these kinds of peoiple, I wouldn't say their lives are more complicated than any other community making the same life choices.

I always got along well with Jewish people, albeit, admittedly, I never met anyone from the more orthodox and extremist fringe, apart from crossing their path in Golders Green.

I can speak by direct experience, though. I did my undergraduate thesis with two London Jewish Professors, Sandler and Davies, who both gave me even more credit I was due. Prof. Sandler even offered me a Phd, with a full scholarship, at one of the University of London campus. Refusing the offer was one of te hardest decision in my life.

About Muslims, I think the same pattern applies. When you realise that the vast majority of Muslims in the world are not uneducated, gullible, radical(ised), you are struck with the strong perception that they, too, are fully deserving our respect and love.

With the Jews and the Muslims, we are talking about two cultures who have been long "hijacked" by charismatic and dangerous ideologies. The state of Israel was an act of forceful reclamation and consolidation of lands where Muslims and Jews have been (mostly) PEACEFULLY living together for centuries. In the eyes of Ben Gurion, the US State and the financiers behind (like the Rothschild), an Israel nation was the fulfilling of a biblical promise. The religious excuse was used as a pretext for a political act that never had half a leg to stand on.

Likewise, Khomeini found a void after British support waned and quickly overthrew the last Shah of Persia, with the populist pretext that it was time for the Arab world to get back at the Christian colonisers and shine again. Ironically, the peak of the Arab world was during the Ottoman Empire, where the practice of Islam was anything but radical and allowed science, art and trade to flourish while Europe was just about coming out of the dark ages.

The emergence of radical fringes who push an entire nation to unspeakable acts, which obviously DO NOT represent the majority, is not uncommon, anyway. It happened with the various Communist and Facist regimes all over Europe. Yet, would you look at me in the eyes and seriously say that all Italians are Fascists, or all Spaniards are hypocrite radical Catholic a-la Opus Dei? Sure, some are, but not all.

I was reading a nice article just last night, on how the word "difference" is assuming a negative connotation, in favour or the more woke term "diversity". "Differences" will always exist across peoples, even if the arabesques of history often paint them with similar colours. For different and unique may be, I remain of the opinion that the majority of people from any cross-section of country, ethnicity, society, and community, are just standard fare family men and women who want nothing but the best for themselves and those around them.
When I said that I don't like Jews or Muslims, I was referring strictly to those religious identities, not the ethnic groups that tend to profess those religions. I do regard Judaism and Islam as barbaric religions and have the utmost contempt for them but that doesn't mean that I indiscriminately hate Arabs, Iranians, Turks, Pakistanis, or even ethnic Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, etc. Those are people groups. It is only the religions that I oppose.

In light of this, I only hate actual hardcore religious Jews and Muslims - those who actually practice the religion in accordance with the Torah or the Koran and are therefore fanatical (yes, fanaticism is the true face of the Torah and Koran) -, and not necessarily Jews or Muslims who just happen to have been born into that religion and culture and don't seriously practice the faith. Following this line of thought, I have no problem with the typical modern Pakistani in the UK who is only nominally a Muslim and practices the religion merely out of habit. My hostility is reserved for true (i.e., fanatical) Muslims.

Why would I respect or even tolerate somebody who believes that we Europeans and non-Muslims are kuffar (infidels) and therefore enemies of their religion? It makes sense to hate such people and view them as enemies.

I don't agree with your assessment that those cultures (Judaism and Islam) were "hijacked" by dangerous and charismatic ideologies. I'm of the view that those religions were always fanatical and barbaric, that intransigent fundamentalism was always their most authentic form, and that they hijacked various indigenous cultures (especially in the case of Islam). In short, the religions themselves are the problem and always were, not just some fringe ideologies.

I hate Christians too. After all, I regard all Abrahamists as spiritual enemies. Likewise, my hatred for Christians is proportionate to their level of fanaticism.

I don't have any animosity towards the lay Catholic who I meet on the bus for example in Spain or Latin America and who just happens to have been born into a Catholic family, goes to mass twice a year and doesn't have a clue about what the Bible or Catechism really teaches, but I do indeed hate Christian fundamentalists, Israel-worshiping Evangelicals, the Opus Dei types, the kind of fanatics who want to impose a theocracy upon everybody else, ect. All of those types can all just go to hell where they belong!

The Abrahamic religions are extremely low-vibrational and demonic (this can be understood from studying their unholy texts with all of their bloodshed, cruelty, perversion and other bizarre oddities) and therefore attract in their purest (i.e., fundamentalist) forms some of the most perverse and schizo people - the kind of degenerates who any sane person would despise.

As for the Jews, I'm not convinced that it's just "Zionists" that are the problem. Judaism had anti-Gentile elements long before the emergence of political Zionism and going back to the Torah and Talmud. The Jews were expelled from over a hundred countries even before Herzl and ilk began promoting Jewish immigration to Palestine. Judaism itself was always problematic.

In fact, Judaism's idea of a "Messianic Age" - outlined in the Nevi'im (prophecy books of the Old Testament) and fleshed out even more in the Kabbalah - just so happens to involve the Jews taking over the whole world and ruling over everything as the chosen priestly caste and privileged elite after all of Israel's enemies have been annihilated in apocalyptic wars. The Kabbalah even envisions this event as a "rectification of the world" (since it views the Gentile world as impure and evil) or Tikkun Olam as it is called in Hebrew.

The Kabbalah is the bizarre doctrine behind the New World Order. The Kabbalists are looking to fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament and bring about Jewish world domination. That's why the NWO is now trying to create an apocalyptic war between the West on one side and the Middle East and Eurasia on the other. They're just following biblical prophecy and Kabbalistic teachings.

Abrahamism is a major scourge. The big three religions all foretell (and therefore seek to manifest) chaotic wars in the so-called "end times". Death, destruction and mindless fanaticism are their essence.
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Re: Switched my support to israel,bad experiences with 'palestinians'

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Lucas88 wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 5:05 pm
publicduende wrote:
October 20th, 2023, 8:50 am
Lucas88 wrote:
October 19th, 2023, 10:16 am
I don't like Jews or Muslims. The former are neurotic tribalists with a chosen people complex and a culture of Talmudic anti-Gentile racism while the latter are backward savages who practice a barbaric desert religion and belong in the 6th century. Muslims might act friendly to your face and even share our hatred of Israel and Zionism, but I don't doubt for a second that the more fanatical among them would like to conquer Europe and force their "religion of peace" upon everyone else by the sword if they could. That's why I generally don't trust Muslims and certainly don't want large numbers of them pouring into Europe. I'm not even into right-wing politics either, just for the record (most right-wingers in America and Europe are pathetic cucks for Israel). I'm just using common sense.
If almost 15 years walking on eggshells in "multicultural" London, where your chance to annoy or offend anyone are amplified tenfold, have taught me anything, it's that stereotyping is usually bad. This, especially in a big city where every permutation of ehtnicity, religion, and socio-economic status is represented, and for each person who seems to fit a stereotype, you also know 2 who don't.

The definitions you provide, for both "the Jews" and "the Muslims" apply very well to specific communities. For the Jews, I like to specifically use the terms "Zionism" and "Zionists" to indicate those extremist fringes who believe to be the "chosen race" and that Jesus will triumphantly escort them back to Jerusalem, once "the times have come". Saying that "all Jewish people are extremist, warmongering and racist" is like saying that "all Italians are mafiosos".

For small it is, both Israeli Jewish and its diaspora are mostly composed of culturally elevated people who have way too much intellectual honesty to surrender to stereotypes. More or less vocally, they all condemn what the US and Likud-driven Israel has done to the world (Muslim and not). They all want peace, a friendly and serene life embraced by their families and friends. Some of them are ambitious and high-flying and complicate their lives. For these kinds of peoiple, I wouldn't say their lives are more complicated than any other community making the same life choices.

I always got along well with Jewish people, albeit, admittedly, I never met anyone from the more orthodox and extremist fringe, apart from crossing their path in Golders Green.

I can speak by direct experience, though. I did my undergraduate thesis with two London Jewish Professors, Sandler and Davies, who both gave me even more credit I was due. Prof. Sandler even offered me a Phd, with a full scholarship, at one of the University of London campus. Refusing the offer was one of te hardest decision in my life.

About Muslims, I think the same pattern applies. When you realise that the vast majority of Muslims in the world are not uneducated, gullible, radical(ised), you are struck with the strong perception that they, too, are fully deserving our respect and love.

With the Jews and the Muslims, we are talking about two cultures who have been long "hijacked" by charismatic and dangerous ideologies. The state of Israel was an act of forceful reclamation and consolidation of lands where Muslims and Jews have been (mostly) PEACEFULLY living together for centuries. In the eyes of Ben Gurion, the US State and the financiers behind (like the Rothschild), an Israel nation was the fulfilling of a biblical promise. The religious excuse was used as a pretext for a political act that never had half a leg to stand on.

Likewise, Khomeini found a void after British support waned and quickly overthrew the last Shah of Persia, with the populist pretext that it was time for the Arab world to get back at the Christian colonisers and shine again. Ironically, the peak of the Arab world was during the Ottoman Empire, where the practice of Islam was anything but radical and allowed science, art and trade to flourish while Europe was just about coming out of the dark ages.

The emergence of radical fringes who push an entire nation to unspeakable acts, which obviously DO NOT represent the majority, is not uncommon, anyway. It happened with the various Communist and Facist regimes all over Europe. Yet, would you look at me in the eyes and seriously say that all Italians are Fascists, or all Spaniards are hypocrite radical Catholic a-la Opus Dei? Sure, some are, but not all.

I was reading a nice article just last night, on how the word "difference" is assuming a negative connotation, in favour or the more woke term "diversity". "Differences" will always exist across peoples, even if the arabesques of history often paint them with similar colours. For different and unique may be, I remain of the opinion that the majority of people from any cross-section of country, ethnicity, society, and community, are just standard fare family men and women who want nothing but the best for themselves and those around them.
When I said that I don't like Jews or Muslims, I was referring strictly to those religious identities, not the ethnic groups that tend to profess those religions. I do regard Judaism and Islam as barbaric religions and have the utmost contempt for them but that doesn't mean that I indiscriminately hate Arabs, Iranians, Turks, Pakistanis, or even ethnic Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, etc. Those are people groups. It is only the religions that I oppose.

In light of this, I only hate actual hardcore religious Jews and Muslims - those who actually practice the religion in accordance with the Torah or the Koran and are therefore fanatical (yes, fanaticism is the true face of the Torah and Koran) -, and not necessarily Jews or Muslims who just happen to have been born into that religion and culture and don't seriously practice the faith. Following this line of thought, I have no problem with the typical modern Pakistani in the UK who is only nominally a Muslim and practices the religion merely out of habit. My hostility is reserved for true (i.e., fanatical) Muslims.

Why would I respect or even tolerate somebody who believes that we Europeans and non-Muslims are kuffar (infidels) and therefore enemies of their religion? It makes sense to hate such people and view them as enemies.

I don't agree with your assessment that those cultures (Judaism and Islam) were "hijacked" by dangerous and charismatic ideologies. I'm of the view that those religions were always fanatical and barbaric, that intransigent fundamentalism was always their most authentic form, and that they hijacked various indigenous cultures (especially in the case of Islam). In short, the religions themselves are the problem and always were, not just some fringe ideologies.

I hate Christians too. After all, I regard all Abrahamists as spiritual enemies. Likewise, my hatred for Christians is proportionate to their level of fanaticism.

I don't have any animosity towards the lay Catholic who I meet on the bus for example in Spain or Latin America and who just happens to have been born into a Catholic family, goes to mass twice a year and doesn't have a clue about what the Bible or Catechism really teaches, but I do indeed hate Christian fundamentalists, Israel-worshiping Evangelicals, the Opus Dei types, the kind of fanatics who want to impose a theocracy upon everybody else, ect. All of those types can all just go to hell where they belong!

The Abrahamic religions are extremely low-vibrational and demonic (this can be understood from studying their unholy texts with all of their bloodshed, cruelty, perversion and other bizarre oddities) and therefore attract in their purest (i.e., fundamentalist) forms some of the most perverse and schizo people - the kind of degenerates who any sane person would despise.

As for the Jews, I'm not convinced that it's just "Zionists" that are the problem. Judaism had anti-Gentile elements long before the emergence of political Zionism and going back to the Torah and Talmud. The Jews were expelled from over a hundred countries even before Herzl and ilk began promoting Jewish immigration to Palestine. Judaism itself was always problematic.

In fact, Judaism's idea of a "Messianic Age" - outlined in the Nevi'im (prophecy books of the Old Testament) and fleshed out even more in the Kabbalah - just so happens to involve the Jews taking over the whole world and ruling over everything as the chosen priestly caste and privileged elite after all of Israel's enemies have been annihilated in apocalyptic wars. The Kabbalah even envisions this event as a "rectification of the world" (since it views the Gentile world as impure and evil) or Tikkun Olam as it is called in Hebrew.

The Kabbalah is the bizarre doctrine behind the New World Order. The Kabbalists are looking to fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament and bring about Jewish world domination. That's why the NWO is now trying to create an apocalyptic war between the West on one side and the Middle East and Eurasia on the other. They're just following biblical prophecy and Kabbalistic teachings.

Abrahamism is a major scourge. The big three religions all foretell (and therefore seek to manifest) chaotic wars in the so-called "end times". Death, destruction and mindless fanaticism are their essence.
I just wish and hope there is a way to prevent all of this from even happening. As I told you before, if any of this does happen the only sensible thing to do is to just end yourself....Whats the point in just staying here on earth if they are going to kill us all in the most horrific way because no one is trying to even remotely prevent it. I don't see any wide spread protest to put an end to whats happening. Not one person is stepping up to say enough, we don't need this. We have all these leaders in the world and not a single one is willing to be a f***ing hero. NOT ONE, that's what makes me so damn angry....We have all these countries in the world, but where are the nobles and honorable individuals? It's like honorable men that existed in the Samurai period don't exist anymore. Even Joan of Arc tried to be a bringer of Peace. But look where are today, surrounded by mad men in government that are too ignorant to realize that if they trigger a war on such a scale they'll kill everybody including themselves, and there will be nothing here.

I kind of stopped going to websites that talked about the war because I got so sick of all the "We are doomed, it's over!" attitudes. And it was just stressing me out all the black pill thinking. I'm not saying that's what you are doing. But I just want a solution to stop these people from trying to kill us. These leaders can't be this ignorant to fall for this shit....If there are apocalyptic wars then they'll all die too. There are too many f***ing countries in this world for there to not be at least one courageous person to put an end to this stuff before it gets out of hand. I mean what are people waiting for, for it to be too late so they can stand around praying holding candle lights into the sky singing songs out of fear that they are going to die when they have the opportunity to do something now? This stuff really triggers my anger mode to new heights.
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