Why do you guys think homosexuals are readily accepted but sex and sexuality is rejected in Anglo-Socities?

[Outcast9428]

It’s not just idealized… Think about it. How can you have winners and losers when it comes to relationships and having girls if monogamy is enforced and nearly the entire population gets married? That’s how it was for the last 1,000 years up until the sexual revolution.

The phenomenon you complain about is a product of sexual liberalism. Sexual liberalism makes sex into a competition instead of something you simply do with the woman you love.

The same sexual liberalism exists in many non-Anglophone regions such as Southern Europe and Latin America too but in those places relations between men and women are nowhere near as strained, male sexuality isn't demonized and it is much easier for an ordinary guy to get sex and female companionship. Why is this, Outcast?

You need to come up with an explanation for this cultural difference if you want your theory to make sense.

There is definitely some other peculiarity of the Anglosphere rather then simply sexual liberalism which, as I've already mentioned, is prevalent almost everywhere else. I've proposed as an explanation vestiges of the puritan ethos of centuries past. Others have come to the same conclusion that Anglo societies have a vestigial puritan streak which is hostile to male sexuality (but not necessarily to female sexuality since the effeminate Anglosphere has always been characterized by woman worship). Hell, even foreigners from places like France make fun of Anglos for their societies' strange attitudes towards sexuality and the awkward relations between men and women.

But it seems like you could never accept the possibility that maybe the historical puritan ethos could be part of the problem since that would go against your own ideological commitments, right?

I'm sure it is easier because they are not as deep down the path of feminism as Britain, North America, and Australia are (they're getting there though) but its still not as easy as it would be in a puritanical culture. In a Puritanical culture, you are literally guaranteed a wife. Forget about how easy it is, you can't beat a literal guarantee. Across Latin America, 13%-14% of women still remain unmarried all the way until their late 40s. If that's the percentage of women who are unmarried then the percentage of men who never marry has got to be similar or higher. In India, on the other hand only 1% of women remain unmarried.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... are-rising

In the ultra religious past, refusing to have sex within marriage was one of the few justifiable excuses for marriage annulment. So if everybody gets married and you're expected to have sex in your marriage, that means almost 100% of the population had sex with varying degrees of regularity. I'm sure the percentage is higher in South America then it is in Britain but I guarantee you its not 100%.

@ArchibaultNew

Bingo... Yes working hard and being successful would get you a higher quality wife. That's the way it should be though. This is why Europe and Japan built the greatest civilizations on Earth was because the system incentivized innovation and hard work while at the same time, not just telling the people at the bottom of the social ladder "f**k you, just go off and die now." This system made it so that contributing to the common good was beneficial and the degree to which you contributed to the common good made a big difference in how good your own life would be.

So the peasant who knew exactly how to farm well and produced high yields every year would get a more beautiful wife, but the peasant who didn't know what he was doing and kept failing to produce crops wouldn't just be tossed out by society. He would get a less pretty wife and the quality of food and housing he had would be less. But even back then, the church required a 10% tithe from all the peasantry, a lot of which would be redistributed to the poor specifically so that peasants like him and his family wouldn't have to starve to death.

At this point, the modern feminist system actually is telling a large portion of the male population "women don't want you so you can either work just to exist and play video games or you can run and jump off a bridge or kill yourself with drugs and alcohol, your choice." Liberal societies aren't as blatant about the hatred of low status males as feminist societies are, but there will always be an underclass whom this happens to and liberal society will simply fool them by saying "if you just work harder you can get a girl."

[Lucas88]

I'm sure it is easier because they are not as deep down the path of feminism as Britain, North America, and Australia are (they're getting there though) but its still not as easy as it would be in a puritanical culture. In a Puritanical culture, you are literally guaranteed a wife. Forget about how easy it is, you can't beat a literal guarantee. Across Latin America, 13%-14% of women still remain unmarried all the way until their late 40s. If that's the percentage of women who are unmarried then the percentage of men who never marry has got to be similar or higher. In India, on the other hand only 1% of women remain unmarried.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... are-rising

In the ultra religious past, refusing to have sex within marriage was one of the few justifiable excuses for marriage annulment. So if everybody gets married and you're expected to have sex in your marriage, that means almost 100% of the population had sex with varying degrees of regularity. I'm sure the percentage is higher in South America then it is in Britain but I guarantee you its not 100%.

@ArchibaultNew

Bingo... Yes working hard and being successful would get you a higher quality wife. That's the way it should be though. This is why Europe and Japan built the greatest civilizations on Earth was because the system incentivized innovation and hard work while at the same time, not just telling the people at the bottom of the social ladder "f**k you, just go off and die now." This system made it so that contributing to the common good was beneficial and the degree to which you contributed to the common good made a big difference in how good your own life would be.

So the peasant who knew exactly how to farm well and produced high yields every year would get a more beautiful wife, but the peasant who didn't know what he was doing and kept failing to produce crops wouldn't just be tossed out by society. He would get a less pretty wife and the quality of food and housing he had would be less. But even back then, the church required a 10% tithe from all the peasantry, a lot of which would be redistributed to the poor specifically so that peasants like him and his family wouldn't have to starve to death.

At this point, the modern feminist system actually is telling a large portion of the male population "women don't want you so you can either work just to exist and play video games or you can run and jump off a bridge or kill yourself with drugs and alcohol, your choice." Liberal societies aren't as blatant about the hatred of low status males as feminist societies are, but there will always be an underclass whom this happens to and liberal society will simply fool them by saying "if you just work harder you can get a girl."

Feminism has been pushed just as strongly in Spain and is treated as a really big deal there yet for some reason the Spanish variety of feminism almost entirely lacks the hostility towards male sexuality characteristic of Anglo feminism. Spanish feminists talk a lot about domestic violence (the prevalence of this is grossly exaggerated), gender equality and the incorporation of women into the workforce but they are usually not anti-sex in any way. One must ask why there is this difference in attitudes even among feminists. The answer is that there is already some other factor at play within Anglo-Saxon culture.

Oh, and Spanish society is just as liberal as the US and the UK and probably even more so, by the way. The days of Franco are long gone. Spain is one of the most progressive countries I've experienced.

Marriage isn't as great as some people like to think. In the past many people got married due to social expectations but hated it. Many marriages are and always were an empty façade. So of course a subset of the population is going to avoid marriage once traditionalism begins to wane. In fact I've known guys in Hispanic countries who refuse to get married precisely because they prefer the variety which prostitution offers them.

The Anglo puritan mindset of centuries past wasn't simply a natural form of incentivization. It was part of a full-blown program of social engineering on the part of the industrial elite in order to turn the whole of society into a beehive of relentless industry and make everybody live to work. It was the beginning of an industrial dystopia which sought to commodify all facets of human life and force all men into a brutal hypercompetitive rat race. Religion was exploited for industrial ends. Its doctrines were used as justification. The "Protestant work ethic" was just propaganda for the industrial dystopia which the elite wanted to create.

Even today Anglo societies continue to be the same rat race dystopia. That's why they are so rotten.

Fortunately the Anglosphere is not the be-all end-all. It's just some bizarre fruitcake of a culture on the fringes of the civilized world and there are much better, far saner, more natural and less f***ed-up cultures elsewhere.

[MrMan]

Marriage isn't as great as some people like to think. In the past many people got married due to social expectations but hated it. Many marriages are and always were an empty façade. So of course a subset of the population is going to avoid marriage once traditionalism begins to wane. In fact I've known guys in Hispanic countries who refuse to get married precisely because they prefer the variety which prostitution offers them.

This 'back in the day' stuff is hard to quantify since it was before surveys and statistics, but in days gone by in a lot of societies, including European societies, the husband was typically in charge of the household. He was the boss, legally. He made the financial decisions.

Marriage in this situation was probably not so miserable. A man might marry a real shrew, but this type of society probably didn't train the average woman to be a shrew. She was supposed to work hard around the house (if she were a peasant), provide the man with sex, and with children. In England, and in the US up until recently, if a woman married a man, she consented to sex with him whenever, legally. Women were expected to obey and respect their husbands. When this is embedded in the culture, marriage is probably a much better institution for men.

Even without it, married men tend to live longer even now.

For me personally, being married gives me a more enjoyable life. When I was single, working abroad, I'd go out every night. On weekends, I might go out with some single friends, or a friend, occasionally with just an attractive female. But sometimes it was lonely, or I wouldn't necessarily think "I'm lonely" except on a rare one-off occasion, but comparing it to my experience now, I might say it was a bit lonely. I was reasonably content most of the time, but it was just different. But I did want to find a wife at the time, so there was always that.

Now, I'm married and I have kids. There are other people in my life to hang out with. I get to spend a lot of time with a partner I love. I have someone to 'do life' with. I get to look at a pretty woman's face... or body... in real life. Not talking about dirty porn here. I also get frequent, guilt-free sex. It's good to have sex and not have to worry about pregnancy... since you want to have kids or don't mind if you have one because you are married and have someone to help you raise them. I don't worry about disease. She's in her 40's. We've just stopped using any kind of birth control at all. I don't have to worry about some woman aborting my kid or some grown man I don't know showing up on my doorstep when I'm 60 calling me dad because I sewed all my seed in my own wife.

I've got someone to go places with-- people to go places with-- because I have children. And I trust God for provision. When I was just about to get married, money was provided for me for the wedding. Even when I was unemployed, some means was provided to pay for the childbirth. We've never gone hungry, and while we've lived in some tight quarters, we've always had a place to live. And as our family has grown, so has provision for us. I thank God for that.

Having a woman in your life can be a challenge. If you marry an Asian, that doesn't mean she won't have opinions and desires. I usually try to make her happy and give her what she wants unless I've got a reason otherwise-- my idea of how to handle the budget, a matter of principal, etc. She asks me about expensive purchases. I don't have a dollar amount rule, but she has a sense of it depending on how we are doing financially. She told me she wanted to buy some little trees for the house. She's called me on the phone and asked if she could buy sheets-- things like that.

Women can seem 'emotionally crazy' at times. For my wife, she used to get that way during PMS, but especially post-partum... after childbirth. It's not like the words don't make sense like someone who is psychotic, but she'd get upset about certain things that didn't make sense. But that's an occasional thing. Like anyone else you spend a lot of time with, a woman can annoy you at times. For me, I just want her to speak to me with the proper respect. Her people-group are 'lecturers' so I have to give occasional push-back on that if she gets a little too lecturey or doesn't sound respectful enough for my standards. You've also got to be able to get out of cycles where every little thing you say irritates the other and you are in attack mode. We've talked and prayed and gotten out of those not-getting-along cycles that come up from time to time, usually during a time of stress like moving, spending a lot of time with in-laws, and stuff like that. A man has to set some boundaries when it comes to this sort of thing to have a good relationship. Overall, it has been a good experience.

What I did is pray a lot about finding a wife, and found someone I believed the Lord was directing me to as the answer to my prayers for a wife. She has a similar experience. I also found a woman with what I might call 'traditional' ideas about marriage. While she is an energetic go-getter type with strong opinions at times, she believes that a wife is supposed to submit to her husband. Our common ground in our faith and belief about the roles of husbands and wives is helpful because we both have reasonable expectations of the other. I am to be the head in the relationship. She's supposed to respect and submit to me. I am supposed to love her sacrificially. Adultery, 'swinging', etc. is out of the question. We are supposed to meet each other's sexual needs. We aren't supposed to divorce. If we have a problem in getting along, we sort it out. I almost always take the lead in that.

Some good general advice for a man who wants to marry, or a man who doesn't want to live celibate is to find a traditional, sexually moral woman. Find a woman who believes she is to submit to her husbands, treat him with respect, be diligent around the home, meet his sexual needs, raise children, etc. Discuss all these things and be on the same page before marrying. Marry a woman you find attractive who is crazy about you. And of course, she isn't tied to some other guy through marriage, engagement, being a baby-momma, etc. Get her father's permission and blessing. She should honor her father. If she respects her father and he gives her away in marriage, she should respect you.

If she doesn't have a father anymore, that makes it a bit more difficult. If her mother was bossy with her dad, she'll probably need some 'reprogramming.' Marrying a woman whose mother submitted to a responsible competent father, if you are a responsible competent man is probably the best scenario in this regard. If mom was bossy, you'll probably have to address that before and after marriage and set some clear boundaries and expectations in how you relate to her. Communicate with her and let her know how you want to be talked to, etc. Call her out on it if she bosses you around, and stuff like that.

I've got to do that occasionally with my wife. She tells the kids stuff like, 'We are not your school friends. We are not on the same level as you. We are your parents." if they joke with us in an insulting manner, try to tell us what to do. So I used that when she was getting a bit lecturey and bossy while we were working outside recently wife. "I am your husband. We are not on the same level." She said she was just tired. She backed off. I think she realized she was getting grumpy. For me, that's something I'll have to do every once in a while with her. Asian women are human women, too. They aren't demure slaves rubbing your feet or feeding you grapes as you lay your head in their laps.

Life is a lot more enjoyable with my wife than it was before it.

[ArchibaultNew]

@Outcast9428
I think what Lucas is trying to get at is that other societies have other incentives to motivate their male population as opposed to going after women, education or healthcare. We see that even in Modern Germany where these are provided at a low cost for the majority of the population legal prostitution, low cost of education and free healthcare. One of those incentives is to feel part of the community and hence you are motivated to pay taxes since you are helping your fellow citizens.

I'm studying French society and my view is also that relationships are relegated to the "private realm" where people mingle with each other. It's a not a outwardly displayed "status symbol" like in Anglo society like guys are flaunting that they got a girl or that they had sex. Discretion is very important in French society.

I think this come from Anglo-Saxon colonialism, the "excessive regulation of the body" as a Colonial Power. Unlike Spaniards who were warriors/adventurous who mixed with the natives. Nobody was telling Spaniards, "Do this, Don't do that." They did whatever they wanted to. It seems Anglo Society kept checks on everyone they were much more "tribal" since they are not Catholics(Universalist type of Philosophy). There were very strict in that they were told don't mix with the natives, don't mix with Africans, don't mix with foreigners...etc. Lothrop stoddard writes about the "Colour Line" and to "Cherish their blood" this all sounds very far right. However, a lot of far right European nationalists where inspired by Anglo-Philosophers like Stoddard and others.

Eugenics seems to have been very important in Anglo-Society and Mainstream as well. Also recently reading I found out that it seems that Anglo's would also breed their slaves to be stronger to do more labour and compete with each other. So not only we have the Puritan legacy of restricting sexual access, but also the Eugenics legacy of "body regulation and breeding selection." Only recently, in historical terms since the 1960's all these ideas are seen as very bad/racist but you can't erase a whole history just through a few decades of "liberalism"

[Outcast9428]

I'm sure it is easier because they are not as deep down the path of feminism as Britain, North America, and Australia are (they're getting there though) but its still not as easy as it would be in a puritanical culture. In a Puritanical culture, you are literally guaranteed a wife. Forget about how easy it is, you can't beat a literal guarantee. Across Latin America, 13%-14% of women still remain unmarried all the way until their late 40s. If that's the percentage of women who are unmarried then the percentage of men who never marry has got to be similar or higher. In India, on the other hand only 1% of women remain unmarried.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... are-rising

In the ultra religious past, refusing to have sex within marriage was one of the few justifiable excuses for marriage annulment. So if everybody gets married and you're expected to have sex in your marriage, that means almost 100% of the population had sex with varying degrees of regularity. I'm sure the percentage is higher in South America then it is in Britain but I guarantee you its not 100%.

@ArchibaultNew

Bingo... Yes working hard and being successful would get you a higher quality wife. That's the way it should be though. This is why Europe and Japan built the greatest civilizations on Earth was because the system incentivized innovation and hard work while at the same time, not just telling the people at the bottom of the social ladder "f**k you, just go off and die now." This system made it so that contributing to the common good was beneficial and the degree to which you contributed to the common good made a big difference in how good your own life would be.

So the peasant who knew exactly how to farm well and produced high yields every year would get a more beautiful wife, but the peasant who didn't know what he was doing and kept failing to produce crops wouldn't just be tossed out by society. He would get a less pretty wife and the quality of food and housing he had would be less. But even back then, the church required a 10% tithe from all the peasantry, a lot of which would be redistributed to the poor specifically so that peasants like him and his family wouldn't have to starve to death.

At this point, the modern feminist system actually is telling a large portion of the male population "women don't want you so you can either work just to exist and play video games or you can run and jump off a bridge or kill yourself with drugs and alcohol, your choice." Liberal societies aren't as blatant about the hatred of low status males as feminist societies are, but there will always be an underclass whom this happens to and liberal society will simply fool them by saying "if you just work harder you can get a girl."

Feminism has been pushed just as strongly in Spain and is treated as a really big deal there yet for some reason the Spanish variety of feminism almost entirely lacks the hostility towards male sexuality characteristic of Anglo feminism. Spanish feminists talk a lot about domestic violence (the prevalence of this is grossly exaggerated), gender equality and the incorporation of women into the workforce but they are usually not anti-sex in any way. One must ask why there is this difference in attitudes even among feminists. The answer is that there is already some other factor at play within Anglo-Saxon culture.

Oh, and Spanish society is just as liberal as the US and the UK and probably even more so, by the way. The days of Franco are long gone. Spain is one of the most progressive countries I've experienced.

Marriage isn't as great as some people like to think. In the past many people got married due to social expectations but hated it. Many marriages are and always were an empty façade. So of course a subset of the population is going to avoid marriage once traditionalism begins to wane. In fact I've known guys in Hispanic countries who refuse to get married precisely because they prefer the variety which prostitution offers them.

The Anglo puritan mindset of centuries past wasn't simply a natural form of incentivization. It was part of a full-blown program of social engineering on the part of the industrial elite in order to turn the whole of society into a beehive of relentless industry and make everybody live to work. It was the beginning of an industrial dystopia which sought to commodify all facets of human life and force all men into a brutal hypercompetitive rat race. Religion was exploited for industrial ends. Its doctrines were used as justification. The "Protestant work ethic" was just propaganda for the industrial dystopia which the elite wanted to create.

Even today Anglo societies continue to be the same rat race dystopia. That's why they are so rotten.

Fortunately the Anglosphere is not the be-all end-all. It's just some bizarre fruitcake of a culture on the fringes of the civilized world and there are much better, far saner, more natural and less f***ed-up cultures elsewhere.

I have talked to plenty of people from Spain on 4chan and they complain about the feminism there all the time. I think you tend to assume in countries like Spain and Latin America that because you aren’t part of the underclass anymore that that means nobody is. Keep in mind though that Anglo men have a lot of traits that are attractive to women in other countries that their own men don’t tend to have. Height is a big one. Guys in Latin America are very short compared to the British. Even Spanish men are short compared to Anglo men with the average height being 5”7. Whatever your height is, imagine if you were suddenly three inches taller in Britain and that’s what going to Spain is like. In Latin America you also will appear very rich compared to the average man in these countries.

Again I have no idea how much money you make or how tall you are but the effect of moving to foreign countries can literally be as if you, while living in Britain, suddenly grew three or four inches taller and your income grew by fivefold. Even with Britain’s shitty dating scene of that hall to you things would get a lot easier.

I’m not saying there is no objective difference by the way between Britain in Colombia as far as the culture making things easier as well. I’m sure the culture has some to do with it but that isn’t the only factor.

[Lucas88]

I have talked to plenty of people from Spain on 4chan and they complain about the feminism there all the time. I think you tend to assume in countries like Spain and Latin America that because you aren’t part of the underclass anymore that that means nobody is. Keep in mind though that Anglo men have a lot of traits that are attractive to women in other countries that their own men don’t tend to have. Height is a big one. Guys in Latin America are very short compared to the British. Even Spanish men are short compared to Anglo men with the average height being 5”7. Whatever your height is, imagine if you were suddenly three inches taller in Britain and that’s what going to Spain is like. In Latin America you also will appear very rich compared to the average man in these countries.

Again I have no idea how much money you make or how tall you are but the effect of moving to foreign countries can literally be as if you, while living in Britain, suddenly grew three or four inches taller and your income grew by fivefold. Even with Britain’s shitty dating scene of that hall to you things would get a lot easier.

I’m not saying there is no objective difference by the way between Britain in Colombia as far as the culture making things easier as well. I’m sure the culture has some to do with it but that isn’t the only factor.

I lived in Spain for years and speak fluent Spanish and can tell you that the situation in Spain is nowhere near as bad as in the Anglosphere.

If you think that being English in Spain gives you an advantage with the local ladies you really don't know much about Spain at all. From my experience most Spanish women believe that English men are ugly pasty-ass dudes and overwhelmingly prefer the "national product" or other Mediterraneans such as Italians. In fact I once found a thread on an online forum in Spanish about whether Spanish women find Anglos attractive and the majority said no, which reflects what I have consistently observed as a foreign resident in the country. I actually agree with them. I too believe that most English men have mediocre looks and are disgustingly pale as well as being generally uncultured and of lower quality than Mediterranean men. I myself loath my own nationality, identify spiritually with Mediterranean culture, prefer Spanish as a language, and even attempt to make myself look more Mediterranean through use of Melanotan (injectable melanin for sunless tanning). In fact I wasn't particularly attractive to Spanish females until I became super tanned like a Mediterranean or even like a Latino.

I don't deny that Spain and other Mediterranean countries have their problems. These include feminism and leftist bullshit. But at least here the people are still quite friendly and cordial, the social culture is open and vibrant and the women aren't so cold and insufferable. English women on the other hand are completely toxic and detestable, the perverse "Anglo Bitch" which Rookh Kshatriya describes, the absolute worst I've ever met (I've lived in various countries and met people from many nationalities). I'm not a fan of English people in general. I can't stand most people from that bizarre, whacko, barbarian culture and try to avoid them as much as possible, especially the women. The UK is pure garbage.

Now that I've gotten my little rant out of the way, I just want to say that the difference between Mediterraneans and British is like night and day. I'd say that I prefer the company of Mediterraneans over that of limeys like 90% of the time. Culture is a huge factor, huge, enormous, grandísimo.

[Outcast9428]

I have talked to plenty of people from Spain on 4chan and they complain about the feminism there all the time. I think you tend to assume in countries like Spain and Latin America that because you aren’t part of the underclass anymore that that means nobody is. Keep in mind though that Anglo men have a lot of traits that are attractive to women in other countries that their own men don’t tend to have. Height is a big one. Guys in Latin America are very short compared to the British. Even Spanish men are short compared to Anglo men with the average height being 5”7. Whatever your height is, imagine if you were suddenly three inches taller in Britain and that’s what going to Spain is like. In Latin America you also will appear very rich compared to the average man in these countries.

Again I have no idea how much money you make or how tall you are but the effect of moving to foreign countries can literally be as if you, while living in Britain, suddenly grew three or four inches taller and your income grew by fivefold. Even with Britain’s shitty dating scene of that hall to you things would get a lot easier.

I’m not saying there is no objective difference by the way between Britain in Colombia as far as the culture making things easier as well. I’m sure the culture has some to do with it but that isn’t the only factor.

I lived in Spain for years and speak fluent Spanish and can tell you that the situation in Spain is nowhere near as bad as in the Anglosphere.

If you think that being English in Spain gives you an advantage with the local ladies you really don't know much about Spain at all. From my experience most Spanish women believe that English men are ugly pasty-ass dudes and overwhelmingly prefer the "national product" or other Mediterraneans such as Italians. In fact I once found a thread on an online forum in Spanish about whether Spanish women find Anglos attractive and the majority said no, which reflects what I have consistently observed as a foreign resident in the country. I actually agree with them. I too believe that most English men have mediocre looks and are disgustingly pale as well as being generally uncultured and of lower quality than Mediterranean men. I myself loath my own nationality, identify spiritually with Mediterranean culture, prefer Spanish as a language, and even attempt to make myself look more Mediterranean through use of Melanotan (injectable melanin for sunless tanning). In fact I wasn't particularly attractive to Spanish females until I became super tanned like a Mediterranean or even like a Latino.

I don't deny that Spain and other Mediterranean countries have their problems. These include feminism and leftist bullshit. But at least here the people are still quite friendly and cordial, the social culture is open and vibrant and the women aren't so cold and insufferable. English women on the other hand are completely toxic and detestable, the perverse "Anglo Bitch" which Rookh Kshatriya describes, the absolute worst I've ever met (I've lived in various countries and met people from many nationalities). I'm not a fan of English people in general. I can't stand most people from that bizarre, whacko, barbarian culture and try to avoid them as much as possible, especially the women. The UK is pure garbage.

Now that I've gotten my little rant out of the way, I just want to say that the difference between Mediterraneans and British is like night and day. I'd say that I prefer the company of Mediterraneans over that of limeys like 90% of the time. Culture is a huge factor, huge, enormous, grandísimo.

I had to verify your claims about Spain a little because I have heard people say they think Spain is a little more conservative then countries like the UK and Germany and this link seems to confirm it…

https://allthatsinteresting.com/study-sexual-partners

The UK is the most promiscuous country of the ones they studied in Europe whereas Spain is a bit more on the conservative side but Italy is definitely the most conservative one. In my experience going to Italy it definitely felt conservative to me.