Re: Wokes promote a degenerate society not a liberal society
Posted: April 29th, 2022, 8:54 pm
@ArchibaultNew
England during the middle ages was definitely patriarchal. All societies were at that time, but some patriarchies had a male underclass while others didn't. Female worship didn't really pop up in Anglo societies until the 20th century. Female worship is certainly nauseatingly bad in Britain today. I have heard people from Britain say that feminism is not even remotely opposed in Britain, but historical Britain was definitely not a female worship society.
I do notice how people in the US and Britain are constantly shaming men for going abroad and trying to find better women. The typical line they give is "oh you're going to find a girl from the third world because you can't get any girl in your own country." Either that or people say "c'mon dude, you're young there's always a chance." I always find this hilarious because the premise of both of those seems to be that women in our own countries are some kind of huge prize that we've given up on trying to get. The truth, however, is that 80% of women in our countries now are complete garbage and I have no interest in going for a tattooed, overweight feminist who has slept with 50 guys, talks like a vulgar skank, and can't put down the bottle/bong. I'm not saying most women have all of these traits but admittedly, the vast majority of women here have at least one of the traits I mentioned and quite frankly, I'm looking for a girl who doesn't have any of them and girls like that in the jewnited states are in short supply.
If what you mean by sexual liberalism, you mean that men can go to brothels... Yes, most patriarchal societies allow this. If you mean men can walk around trying to flirt with and seduce any random woman walking around? No, that's not part of patriarchal societies. It might be part of Eastern Europe and Latin America because those societies are basically center-right, liberal conservative societies. Liberal conservative countries tend to have a much smaller male underclass then full blown feminist ones do, and for the male underclass that does exist, their lives are much more bearable. But liberal conservative countries still have a male underclass.
But I wouldn't classify them as full blown patriarchies. For a true, full blown patriarchy, you have to go to a country like Thailand, India, or the Philippines.
I mean, I get it, prostitution definitely makes life better. But as a guy who's gone to strip clubs a lot in his life, I can also tell you that paying a girl and getting a certain amount of intimate time with her isn't really fulfilling either. When you don't have a connection with a girl, when the two of you are not in love with one another, its just not the same. Now you could potentially find that with a prostitute but if its just sex, it won't feel the same. Strip clubs are really fun when you are young, inexperienced, and not really ready to take care of a wife and family yet. But once you've experienced love and what a long term relationship is really like, you realize that a prostitute will only give you a small slice of the happiness that a girlfriend will. Sex, when you love the girl, is on a completely different level. The feeling of warmth you get on the inside when you are holding a girl you love and respect, locking eyes with her, planting kisses all over her body during sex is the most amazing thing you'll ever experience in your life.
Its true that in liberal conservative countries, any guy can go to a brothel and its perfectly fine. And the brothel experience will be better, cheaper, more available, hotter girls. But as far as I'm concerned, any guy who is not married, any guy who doesn't have a girl to love is part of the male underclass. People think I criticize guys like Charlie Sheen, Dan Bilzerian, or Hunter Biden because I'm "jealous." I'm not jealous of them, I pity them. Guys like that are almost as bad off as incels are, but they're too spoiled by privilege and peer pressure to realize what they're missing out on. Then again, maybe its for the best, I don't think they really deserve a wife given the way they behave. They would just cheat on her or treat her badly.
England during the middle ages was definitely patriarchal. All societies were at that time, but some patriarchies had a male underclass while others didn't. Female worship didn't really pop up in Anglo societies until the 20th century. Female worship is certainly nauseatingly bad in Britain today. I have heard people from Britain say that feminism is not even remotely opposed in Britain, but historical Britain was definitely not a female worship society.
I do notice how people in the US and Britain are constantly shaming men for going abroad and trying to find better women. The typical line they give is "oh you're going to find a girl from the third world because you can't get any girl in your own country." Either that or people say "c'mon dude, you're young there's always a chance." I always find this hilarious because the premise of both of those seems to be that women in our own countries are some kind of huge prize that we've given up on trying to get. The truth, however, is that 80% of women in our countries now are complete garbage and I have no interest in going for a tattooed, overweight feminist who has slept with 50 guys, talks like a vulgar skank, and can't put down the bottle/bong. I'm not saying most women have all of these traits but admittedly, the vast majority of women here have at least one of the traits I mentioned and quite frankly, I'm looking for a girl who doesn't have any of them and girls like that in the jewnited states are in short supply.
If what you mean by sexual liberalism, you mean that men can go to brothels... Yes, most patriarchal societies allow this. If you mean men can walk around trying to flirt with and seduce any random woman walking around? No, that's not part of patriarchal societies. It might be part of Eastern Europe and Latin America because those societies are basically center-right, liberal conservative societies. Liberal conservative countries tend to have a much smaller male underclass then full blown feminist ones do, and for the male underclass that does exist, their lives are much more bearable. But liberal conservative countries still have a male underclass.
But I wouldn't classify them as full blown patriarchies. For a true, full blown patriarchy, you have to go to a country like Thailand, India, or the Philippines.
I mean, I get it, prostitution definitely makes life better. But as a guy who's gone to strip clubs a lot in his life, I can also tell you that paying a girl and getting a certain amount of intimate time with her isn't really fulfilling either. When you don't have a connection with a girl, when the two of you are not in love with one another, its just not the same. Now you could potentially find that with a prostitute but if its just sex, it won't feel the same. Strip clubs are really fun when you are young, inexperienced, and not really ready to take care of a wife and family yet. But once you've experienced love and what a long term relationship is really like, you realize that a prostitute will only give you a small slice of the happiness that a girlfriend will. Sex, when you love the girl, is on a completely different level. The feeling of warmth you get on the inside when you are holding a girl you love and respect, locking eyes with her, planting kisses all over her body during sex is the most amazing thing you'll ever experience in your life.
Its true that in liberal conservative countries, any guy can go to a brothel and its perfectly fine. And the brothel experience will be better, cheaper, more available, hotter girls. But as far as I'm concerned, any guy who is not married, any guy who doesn't have a girl to love is part of the male underclass. People think I criticize guys like Charlie Sheen, Dan Bilzerian, or Hunter Biden because I'm "jealous." I'm not jealous of them, I pity them. Guys like that are almost as bad off as incels are, but they're too spoiled by privilege and peer pressure to realize what they're missing out on. Then again, maybe its for the best, I don't think they really deserve a wife given the way they behave. They would just cheat on her or treat her badly.