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Perhaps we could hang out and I can show you some ropes in thailand or Cambodia with women and stuff when I get back to asia next summer before you do something that could land you in hot water. Also I wouldn't talk about anything potentially illegal online.
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jerryrigged wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 7:36 am
Perhaps we could hang out and I can show you some ropes in thailand or Cambodia with women and stuff when I get back to asia next summer before you do something that could land you in hot water. Also I wouldn't talk about anything potentially illegal online.
That would be good. (Assuming Asia ever reopens, travel restrictions end, and I have money to travel)
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“First, I need to identify the correct species or strains. Then I need to test the growing conditions. Then I need to test the probability of the plant returning from seed. If it can return year after year by seeds or spread, then it's able to save me money. This is especially useful with marijuana. Opium poppies are easy enough to obtain.”

Luckily this is just another fantasy that will occupy the next few weeks of your time mentality, before you move on to the next scheme, so this info won’t be used for criminal activity.

In my youth I smoked pot daily, some of my close friends were fully patched members of the GJ’s. I’ve seen hydro set ups and outdoors. Your plan is totally flawed. Outdoor pot on a scale that you can make decent money from still needs money spent on growing infrastructure and regular attention. You can’t just leave them to grow, come back in 6 months and harvest quality pot that will compete with the hydro industry and the way you’re talking you’re growing low strength bush weed which mostly you can’t give away. What’s Bush weed? - outdoor plants that has been allowed to go to seed, because the male plants weren’t culled in their youth or moved km away as breeding stock, the female flowers have been pollenated and put their energy into making seeds and not THC. For a pot smoker the sign of bad weed is finding a seed in your bag of heads.

Opium is equally a silly idea. Afghanistan is ramping up production as we speak and your little flower bed will make you less than your bush weed.

Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
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Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
I'd have to agree. In most places it is a mature market and only makes sense if you already have all the contacts, equipment and knowhow.
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Cornfed wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:15 am
Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
I'd have to agree. In most places it is a mature market and only makes sense if you already have all the contacts, equipment and knowhow.
Glad we agree on something corn 😉

Pot growing does take a lot of know how. Even the correct drying method would be impossible for a homeless person. You’ll have to employ a “gardener” who knows what they are doing and he can trust won’t rip him off. Then set up his camp on site and pay his living expenses for 6 months, plus the irrigation system the gardener requires (he won’t hand water). He won’t consider risking it unless there’s a big percentage payoff on several hundred plants minimum, because he will be the first arrested when the crop is raided or assaulted when another criminal group rips your plants. At that size he’ll have to employ trimmers as you don’t want the buds on the dry plants longer than necessary. Then you have to store it in the correct method so you don’t get mold and that’s all before finding a trusted bulk buyer, because you don’t want to be selling pounds yourself in $25 J bags on the street.

There’s so much the average person who hasn’t been involved with drugs is clueless about. The first rule is don’t tell anyone what you’re doing and definitely don’t broadcast it on the internet.
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Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:04 am
“First, I need to identify the correct species or strains. Then I need to test the growing conditions. Then I need to test the probability of the plant returning from seed. If it can return year after year by seeds or spread, then it's able to save me money. This is especially useful with marijuana. Opium poppies are easy enough to obtain.”

Luckily this is just another fantasy that will occupy the next few weeks of your time mentality, before you move on to the next scheme, so this info won’t be used for criminal activity.

In my youth I smoked pot daily, some of my close friends were fully patched members of the GJ’s. I’ve seen hydro set ups and outdoors. Your plan is totally flawed. Outdoor pot on a scale that you can make decent money from still needs money spent on growing infrastructure and regular attention. You can’t just leave them to grow, come back in 6 months and harvest quality pot that will compete with the hydro industry and the way you’re talking you’re growing low strength bush weed which mostly you can’t give away. What’s Bush weed? - outdoor plants that has been allowed to go to seed, because the male plants weren’t culled in their youth or moved km away as breeding stock, the female flowers have been pollenated and put their energy into making seeds and not THC. For a pot smoker the sign of bad weed is finding a seed in your bag of heads.

Opium is equally a silly idea. Afghanistan is ramping up production as we speak and your little flower bed will make you less than your bush weed.

Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
I'll just say that we'll see. I have nothing to lose if I made an attempt at it. All I might lose if a few hundred. And no, I don't have property. I would be finding a large forest glade or a field in the middle of nowhere to plant several hundred or thousands of seeds. If they grow, great. If not, I learned something.
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Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:02 am
Cornfed wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:15 am
Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:04 am
Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
I'd have to agree. In most places it is a mature market and only makes sense if you already have all the contacts, equipment and knowhow.
Glad we agree on something corn 😉

Pot growing does take a lot of know how. Even the correct drying method would be impossible for a homeless person. He’d have to employ a “gardener” who knows what they are doing and he can trust won’t rip him off. Set up his camp on site and pay his living expenses for 6 months. They aren’t risking it unless there’s a big percentage payoff on several hundred plants minimum, because he will be the first arrested when the crop is raided or assaulted when another criminal group rips your plants. Then at that size he’ll have to employ trimmers as you don’t want the buds on the dry plants longer than necessary. Then you have to store it in the correct method so you don’t get mold and that’s all before finding a trusted bulk buyer, because you don’t want to be selling pounds yourself in $25 J bags on the street.

There’s so much the average person who hasn’t been involved with drugs is clueless about. The first rule is don’t tell anyone what you’re doing and definitely don’t broadcast it on the internet.
I watched a documentary or read an article about Albanian growers who grow entirely outdoors and even dry their product outdoors. Cannot be too complicated.

I'm mainly shooting for €25,000 a year and I consider that success. It's not much but it's enough to give me the ability to do something legit.
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Tsar wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:27 am
Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 9:04 am
“First, I need to identify the correct species or strains. Then I need to test the growing conditions. Then I need to test the probability of the plant returning from seed. If it can return year after year by seeds or spread, then it's able to save me money. This is especially useful with marijuana. Opium poppies are easy enough to obtain.”

Luckily this is just another fantasy that will occupy the next few weeks of your time mentality, before you move on to the next scheme, so this info won’t be used for criminal activity.

In my youth I smoked pot daily, some of my close friends were fully patched members of the GJ’s. I’ve seen hydro set ups and outdoors. Your plan is totally flawed. Outdoor pot on a scale that you can make decent money from still needs money spent on growing infrastructure and regular attention. You can’t just leave them to grow, come back in 6 months and harvest quality pot that will compete with the hydro industry and the way you’re talking you’re growing low strength bush weed which mostly you can’t give away. What’s Bush weed? - outdoor plants that has been allowed to go to seed, because the male plants weren’t culled in their youth or moved km away as breeding stock, the female flowers have been pollenated and put their energy into making seeds and not THC. For a pot smoker the sign of bad weed is finding a seed in your bag of heads.

Opium is equally a silly idea. Afghanistan is ramping up production as we speak and your little flower bed will make you less than your bush weed.

Forget this idea, it’s your worst yet to waste your mental energy on.
I'll just say that we'll see. I have nothing to lose if I made an attempt at it. All I might lose if a few hundred. And no, I don't have property. I would be finding a large forest glade or a field in the middle of nowhere to plant several hundred or thousands of seeds. If they grow, great. If not, I learned something.

Waste of time. You don’t plant the seeds in the ground. You have seeding beds in a green house, then move them out doors after a few weeks, or birds, animals and insects will eat them as soon as they sprout. This will be a continuing issue for you and that’s why they need daily attention. A forest has too much shade and will confuse the f..k out of the plants. They’ll think it’s time to flower as soon as they sprout. You don’t have the knowledge to do this and it’s pointless if you are going to let male and females grow together.

It’s a stupid idea and a waste of your time. Go get an entry level job and work your way up, like most of us did in our early 20’s. You are 10 years behind most people, so don’t waste another minute on fantasies. Work hard now and by the time you’re 40 you will have something to show for your efforts.
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Tsar wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 8:09 am
jerryrigged wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 7:36 am
Perhaps we could hang out and I can show you some ropes in thailand or Cambodia with women and stuff when I get back to asia next summer before you do something that could land you in hot water. Also I wouldn't talk about anything potentially illegal online.
That would be good. (Assuming Asia ever reopens, travel restrictions end, and I have money to travel)
Thailand is open even for unvaxxed now apparently, the main things keeping me away are im busy here with an investment im working on and the mask requirement. Sinovac will still work to skip the quarantine, but the price for me to go to mexico and get it, and then fly to Thailand, well, I might as well book the quarantine hotel. It would actually cost me less than to go to Mexico for 2 weeks to get the vaccine. Apparently the doses Mexico got a month or two ago are the last the Mex government plans to order, so when its gone/expired, its gone. Mexicans mostly just arent taking the vaccine... So. They have huge wasted stockpiles in many areas. The big question is whether or not Cambodia will ever let unvaxxed people in. Since I plan on going to Thailand and staying, the quarantine isnt so bad. Unless something changes with my health, this summer, I am just getting out of here. I want to wake up and eat Thai pork congee, drink tea, and watch the buffalo grazing outside. Then head to the market to buy fresh local produce. The market is where you meet the girls. I really miss it a lot. Hopefully I'll be able to help you out sometime soon.
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I agree with Huddo. Go get a job.

Another alternative is to get an education. Borrowing can have a negative impact on your future. But if you could turn this health situation into a way to get government support, your state or county government in the US might have vocational rehabilitation or some other government program to get you started. I talked with a community college dean who had money for residents of his state to take short courses, like a 12 day course to learn to climb, do installation and repair for cell phone towers. He had a follow-course for flying drones to check the tower, again state funded. Cell tower climbers start at around $39K in the lower paying states. It may go up in the 40's and 50's. Another course was to get a certificate to work in a factory, and they had an event with employers after that. For non-college-educated jobs, some of the manufacters pay better. Try to choose a field you can get into.

If you go to college and you get a letter from your doctor saying you have anxiety taking tests, your professors may have to give you time and a half or double time on exams and let you make up late work. If you have physical disabilities, they have to accommodate that. Employers have to do the same, any 'reasonable accommodation.' They say it is reasonable, but really it can be somewhat extreme.

You talked about hacking... or whatever... a billionaire a while back. I know this lady who has a bunch of degrees, engineering, nursing, etc., who went back to school to get a cybersecurity certificate... from a community college. 2-year community college grads were making 90K, she said! Bachelors paid $150K. I expect the salaries to drop (in real terms, unless inflation cancels out the drop in salaries) as more people find out they can go to school for two years and make big bucks and they flood the market. Then I expect it to still be decent paying.

In the meantime, get some work history. Start an LLC doing something, whether it's selling construction services, selling food from a food tent or T-shirts at the flea market. If you have any gaps in your work history when you are not working or not in school full time, fill it up with your small business. If you sell T-shirts once a month, they don't know that. You are CEO of your LLC during that time.

If you can scrape up $1000 or so for a course, you might be able to study to be a real estate appraiser or real estate agent. For either one, you need to line up someone to train you before you take the course. The real estate market in the US has been really hot. Appraiser sounds more reliable. I think they have been really overloaded, and the money can be pretty decent if you can work out a decent split with the one who trains you.

Drug dealers might get chicks. But I knew a guy who said he did undercover work, and he said the girls who hung around drug dealers would trade sex for drugs until they started to look gross, then guys would have them be with the dog in exchange for drugs, and stuff like that. This probably not the way to get the sweet young virgin you want. Get a decent job.

You could also get a degree to set you up to work overseas if you want that. I don't think high school teacher (and girl's soccer coach) is a good match for your interests. Too much temptation.

Universities also have international students. Maybe you could find an 18-year-old virgin straight off the boat who would be willing to be your girlfriend if you gave off the vibe of being a decent guy not a 'breaking bad' drug chemist or dude interested in underaged girls.

Illegal drugs could land you in prison. You don't want to be on the wrong end of the 'girl friend experience' in prison.

If you do have basic computer skills, you could get some kind of job, then try to build up your own online sales pages, figure out a web-based business, and then go be a digital nomad when it makes sense.
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MrMan wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:57 am
Drug dealers might get chicks. But I knew a guy who said he did undercover work, and he said the girls who hung around drug dealers would trade sex for drugs until they started to look gross, then guys would have them be with the dog in exchange for drugs, and stuff like that. This probably not the way to get the sweet young virgin you want. Get a decent job.
All you need to do is look around most major cities and you'll know this is true. You dont even need to do detective work. Drug dealers hang out with prostitutes, drug addict chicks, and gangbangerettes. These are not the kind of women he wants.
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Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:36 am
Go get an entry level job and work your way up, like most of us did in our early 20’s. You are 10 years behind most people, so don’t waste another minute on fantasies. Work hard now and by the time you’re 40 you will have something to show for your efforts.
I don't qualify for one and there are not enough. There aren't even enough jobs as it is. I don't have additional language skills. I can't afford to get to an education to improve my possibility of getting something.

Honestly, what's so complicated to understand about that? People who are poor don't have any options without "help."

Without money, I am not able to pay for a degree and get work. Without someone instantly giving me a job somewhere, I am not able to compete for one.

If I don't get a useful degree, then I won't be working even when I am 40 and I won't have any retirement or national pension, and my passive income won't really last long-term. It has an expiration date.

I already know I will be doing something criminal in the next year or two for money if nothing works out by late 2022. I just don't care anymore. If I don't have a girl, a property, or money to do anything then I don't have any real reason to not attempt something for money where it's lenient enough for me to consider it.

Prisoners in many EU prisons get a private room, meals, healthcare, get to wear their own clothes, get to have their own mp3 player, and maybe education to acquire skills. How's is that "less free" than I am where I am too poor to eat three meals a day, where almost all my money goes to paying for a place so I don't sleep on the ground, where if I want healthcare or medicine then I need to buy it which means I can't eat as much, and I am too poor to afford new education.

My life is stuck and I don't have the ability to fix my life without having enough money to do something to fix it.

Certain users on this forum told me that I can't get a job without knowing a second language.
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MrMan wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:57 am
I agree with Huddo. Go get a job.

Another alternative is to get an education.
Tell me how either works?

Don't you think I tried to get a job for 10 years in America. I shouldn't have even bothered getting a degree in America because it turned out to be useless.

As for other places, most users told me without a second language I am not getting a job.

I don't have credit.

I tried that several years ago to sell clothing and I did make sales but it was nothing and someone had me shutdown. So that idea was crossed out.

I expect an easy time improving my life at this point. I am honestly desperate and desperate people end up doing desperate things. If I had 50,000 or 100,000 then my life would be different and I could improve it.
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MrMan wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:57 am
Drug dealers might get chicks. But I knew a guy who said he did undercover work, and he said the girls who hung around drug dealers would trade sex for drugs until they started to look gross, then guys would have them be with the dog in exchange for drugs, and stuff like that. This probably not the way to get the sweet young virgin you want.
True, but it might be fun while he's waiting.
'Get a decent job.
Attempting this won't get him anywhere these days.
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Huddo wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 10:36 am
It’s a stupid idea and a waste of your time. Go get an entry level job and work your way up
This is not the 1960s any more. The most he is going to be able to work his way up to is living in his pod eating bugs with no privacy while waiting to die of his lethal injection, and he probably won't even get that. He needs to stay out of the ZOG's reach and find alternative ways to get resources, but probably not the ways he has so far come up with.
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