Disliking a country on aesthetic grounds

[Lucas88]

Many people here hate America or their respective home country for objective reasons such as high cost of living, a culture of workaholism, a largely barren social life, poor quality of women, and the influence of feminism. These reasons can either be quantified or substantiated through anecdotal evidence.

However, some people may hate their home country (or any other country in which they reside or have resided) simply due to aesthetic reasons. The artistic sensitivities, cultural peculiarities, social attitudes, language and overall vibe of a place don't agree with their subjective preferences and inner nature and therefore make them constantly feel out of place. I know this to be true. I feel this way about the UK, so much so that I just can't function socially in this society at all and prefer to avoid contact with the majority of people. Moving to Spain and Latin America changed everything for me.

I do indeed hate the UK for many of the same objective reasons for which you guys hate America and/or the Anglosphere such as the materialistic culture, poor social life, widespread culture of binge drinking and atrocious female quality but at the same time I just don't like the aesthetics of British culture and society and find them totally alien to the nature of my soul. I've felt this way since I was 15. I would always fondly remember my childhood experiences of Spain from when I used to stay with expat family during the summers and reflect upon how much more aesthetically refined and pleasant the country was in comparison to the grim and depressing UK. I already knew that the UK didn't suit me and that Spain was where I needed to be. Being born in the UK was a mistake for which I'll never forgive my soul.

From an elemental perspective it is obvious why I'm aesthetically incompatible with the UK. The UK is a cold dark country situated in the far north and populated by an alien race of equally cold and somewhat robotic, weird, pale-skinned, sickly-looking people who speak a harsh and soulless language and have all kinds of bizarre cultural oddities. This obviously is completely opposed to my warm, fiery, passionate and Dionysian soul and being incarnated into a body belonging to that same alien race of the north has only resulted in my self-hatred and psychological instability.

First of all, I don't like the physical aesthetics of British people. Let's not beat around the bush here. The British are not a pretty race. Outside of a few outliers and celebrities or models selected for their unusual beauty, the bulk of the British population tends towards the ugly side with sickly pasty skin and subpar physical features. Some Brits just look plain weird. And it's not just the women either. In my observation, Brits largely lack the beauty and aesthetic quality of Italians, French and other Europeans. They are a less aesthetically refined people and mostly don't have the same privileged genetics of their European rivals. This is not just my imagination either. Apparently internet search terms like "why are the British so ugly" are quite common throughout Europe. I think that there is a large grain of truth to the question of British ugliness, exceptions aside. Anyway, on a subjective level I find most British people physically unappealing or downright bizarre-looking. I don't like British women at all and don't like being around so many sickly-looking, pig-skinned British uggos. I'm being awful I know, but it is what it is.

Second, I don't like the overall vibe of most British people either. They just strike me as a bit robotic, soulless and inhibited. Some British people even have a reptilian quality about them. I don't connect with most British people at all. I just find them too alien. On top of that, I find that many British people seem to have a certain typically British way of being that is both obnoxious and cringy. It's like an elusive essence or quality that I just can't describe well with words but which only British people possess and which other Europeans lack. British people by and large give off an extremely weird vibe. That vibe is incompatible with my own energetic frequency and I usually start to feel uncomfortable or become depressed when I have to interact with British people for extended periods of time.

Third, I can't stand British cities or their streets and architectural styles. British cities are ugly and gloomy and resemble a sci-fi dystopia. The grey modernist buildings are terrible eyesores, the residential areas and apartments largely look lifeless and the pavements are generally just ugly concrete. To make matters worse, this all exists under a dark and cloudy northern sky. I personally feel utterly depressed in British cities. I feel like my soul is fragmenting with all of the ugliness. I could never live in one.

An example of a British city (Leeds):



Yuck! By the way, this kind of "scenery" is extremely common throughout the urban UK. It's not simply an extreme example selected just to prove a point.

Look how beautiful and soulful Mediterranean cities are in contrast!





I need Mediterranean cities with their bright colorful buildings, nice paving and beautiful open squares with fountains and all kind of brilliant sculptures just to feel happy!

Fourth, I find the language of British people unbearable to listen to. Yes, British English is ugly. It sounds soulless and depressing and I can't stand hearing or speaking it. I overwhelmingly prefer Spanish. I don't like interacting with British people because the sound of their language disgusts me so much. It's as though the language is made up of low vibrations which induce feelings of melancholy or otherwise cause vexation. The other day in was on the bus and two Brazilian women came and sat in front of me. I listened to their beautiful language and it sounded so melodious and uplifting in contrast to the discordant, totally unmelodious and malformed dogshit language of the British passengers who made up the majority. If you don't like the aesthetics of a language then you'll never be happy in a country where it is spoken. I could never like British culture because I hate the sound of its language so much. I feel much happier speaking Romance languages.

I hate the UK on aesthetic grounds. I just don't jive well with its human, cultural, architectural and linguistic aesthetics. My aversion towards the UK goes way beyond the high cost of living or the poor dating scene. I literally can't stand the sight of the place or the sensation of its energy.

Does anybody else dislike a country for aesthetic reasons?

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@Lucas88 mate, Can I have a bo'oh'o'wa'er, Fish N Chips, and its chewsday innit?
I am just joking.

Yes, I agree with your assessment. United State's cities are no better either. Too many boxy gray skyscrapers and too many grid roads.
The whole country's aesthetic values totally sucks too it's like a cultural and spiritual wasteland figuratively speaking. Latin countries feel more vibrant and warm for me. That is what I like.

[gsjackson]

A great book on the subject is The Geography of Nowhere by James Howard Kunstler. It was the first thing that started me Europe-bound in the mid '90s. Along with The Great Good Place by Ray Oldenburg, a book saluting a way of face-to-face life that seems to have breathed its last.

[Whale or Pattaya]

First off women are visually driven and what men they find attractive looking is narrower than a man's. Men have to fit a niche which is always some derivative type of Chad (classic male model, pretty boy, tall rugged rugby hunk, tall goodlooking lean rockstar look, masculine MMA fighter). Women just need not to be fat and wear tight clothes and they'll be some guys type wherever they go in Britian. There's even demand for chubby girls though not anywhere near as much as for slim or healthy weight women.

Second, women and men have the same options for improvements as each other the difference is in the end result.

Take the average overweight man and woman in Great Britain - she is 5'4 at 169lbs, he is 5'91/4 at 194lbs (they would both be ranked a 4/10 at best because at those weights you're unattractive looking to the majority... unless the man is a bodybuilder with a good face), if the woman lost 40 pounds and the man lost 30 pounds of weight, worked on their personalities, reliability, financials etc, and they both became 6/10, then the woman will have WAY more options than the man. She's now a 6 and will seek Chad (8+). The man is now a 6 and wants to date a 6... but shes hooking up with Chad. And so is the 5/10 female.

This leaves the 6/10 guy going back to square one - he has no options after self-improvement, he has to date down. Juice not worth the squeeze so your better off looking abroad or going monk/MGTOW.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

First off women are visually driven and what men they find attractive looking is narrower than a man's. Men have to fit a niche which is always some derivative type of Chad (classic male model, pretty boy, tall rugged rugby hunk, tall goodlooking lean rockstar look, masculine MMA fighter). Women just need not to be fat and wear tight clothes and they'll be some guys type wherever they go in Britian. There's even demand for chubby girls though not anywhere near as much as for slim or healthy weight women.

Second, women and men have the same options for improvements as each other the difference is in the end result.

Take the average overweight man and woman in Great Britain - she is 5'4 at 169lbs, he is 5'91/4 at 194lbs (they would both be ranked a 4/10 at best because at those weights you're unattractive looking to the majority... unless the man is a bodybuilder with a good face), if the woman lost 40 pounds and the man lost 30 pounds of weight, worked on their personalities, reliability, financials etc, and they both became 6/10, then the woman will have WAY more options than the man. She's now a 6 and will seek Chad (8+). The man is now a 6 and wants to date a 6... but shes hooking up with Chad. And so is the 5/10 female.

This leaves the 6/10 guy going back to square one - he has no options after self-improvement, he has to date down. Juice not worth the squeeze so your better off looking abroad or going monk/MGTOW.

Of course, women goes after the top 20% of the men, it's called hypergamy.
Men have to date down, import women from abroad, or travel to foreign country to get a date.

[Cornfed]

Of course, women goes after the top 20% of the men

Assuming by "top" you mean shittiest.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

Of course, women goes after the top 20% of the men

Assuming by "top" you mean shittiest.

I guess.. depends on how you look at it.

[willymonfrete]

big reason I hate america and to much lesser extent holland,because atleast the latter is more nice than the former's architecture with it's canals and sugarbread houses.

[Lucas88]

Upon further reflection, I even believe that my extreme dislike for the aesthetics of the UK and its culture greatly contributed to my social withdrawal since my late teenage years or early adulthood.

While it is true that I was never too well-received by British people and was always a social misfit to some degree, the truth is that after a certain point I also began to intentionally avoid interaction with the culture which surrounded me out of a deep aversion to its aesthetics and so my social isolation was partially self-imposed.

For example, once I realized how much I couldn't stand the UK and its depressing architecture, I started to avoid going to the cities as much as possible. In fact, I would rarely ever go out unless it was to go to university, to attend my martial arts classes or to go to my part-time jerb. Other than that I was mostly a homebody. I come from a town and it's way nicer than any ugly dystopian British city.

Similarly, I would avoid interacting with people as much as possible. Having to listen to the disgusting British English which most people spoke used to piss me off or deeply repulse me. Having to speak it myself even more so. I've always hated the sound of my native language. I find its phonology greatly unpleasant and it causes me emotional discomfort. I therefore preferred to avoid British people and stay at home whenever possible. At least I could spend the evening studying Spanish, watching Spanish-language movies and telenovelas starring hot Latinas, listening to Spanish-language music, etc. It's no wonder that once I got to Spain I ditched English completely and only spoke Spanish.

I also didn't pursue British girls at all. I already knew that I didn't like them either physically or culturally and that I wanted a Latina. I just became a ghost obsessively studying Spanish and waiting for the first opportunity to go to Spain or Latin America.

In short, my absolute disgust for the aesthetics of the UK was enough for me to willingly choose social isolation and probably cost me quite a few opportunities to explore life and try new things during that time.

I think that my hatred for the UK and British culture reaches pathological levels. I feel strong psychological rejection and utterly hate being a part of the British people.

Just moving away doesn't completely solve the problem. Even if you don't identify with your own nationality other people will associate you with it whether you like it or not, and I just don't feel comfortable at all with British nationality and don't even know how to "act British". I speak Spanish well enough not to sound like a gringo/Anglophone and can therefore avoid detection for the most part, but I still feel somewhat uncomfortable whenever I find myself in situations in which I am unable to lie about my nationality. I therefore often become quite avoidant of people in foreign countries too.

I began to have a decent life only after I went abroad. Before then everything about my home country depressed me and suffocated my soul.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

I have to say I cannot stand the British or Australian accent. Something about it is extremely off-putting. I find the women from these countries to be extremely cold, frigid, standoffish, and masculine. I realize why so many British men left England to go to other parts of the world....to get away from British women.