Does education destroy femininity in women?

[Winston]

Here Roosh observes that education definitely makes a woman less feminine and more masculine in both personality and appearance. Is that true? If so, does this mean that it's better for a woman not to be educated? If so, to what degree? How come education hasn't made Russian women less feminine?

[Andrewww]

Nope, there are many models (or escorts) out there with university degrees. In EE, as you mentioned, a lot of women get educated since university is mostly free (if you have good grades in high school that is).

As I said on other topics, I believe it boils down to how well the parents manage to instill some values in their children. No one else can do that better than your mother or father.

What's happening to you Winston, you became a Roosh follower now ?

[zacb]

While I think he may be overrating a tad, I think he hit the nail on the head. When a woman has excess male attention who isn't even the most attractive, there is a slight problem. Should there be a partner for everyone? Yes. But there is an underlying problem. But I think the way he handled it was not the most optimal. There are probably better ways of saying a girl is ugly.

[buddy77]

That it is feminism, that ironically makes women less feminine (the name is reverse psychology/nlp in effect).

However, if they take
"women's studies", or
"gender studies" course in college, they will be less feminine and i I know they teach misandry diguised as (women's rights) in those classes.

Too bad guy ever took (the schools) to court for teaching sexism and misandry! We men cannot change american society, but we should start fighting women in courts with law suits when ever misandry, sexism and double standards are used against men.

We should legally sue feminists and hurt them financially, just as they've been doing to men for decades now.

[zacb]

That it is feminism, that ironically makes women less feminine (the name is reverse psychology/nlp in effect).

However, if they take
"women's studies", or
"gender studies" course in college, they will be less feminine and i I know they teach misandry diguised as (women's rights) in those classes.

Too bad guy ever took (the schools) to court for teaching sexism and misandry! We men cannot change american society, but we should start fighting women in courts with law suits when ever misandry, sexism and double standards are used against men.

We should legally sue feminists and hurt them financially, just as they've been doing to men for decades now.

True. Especially "sexual harassment"

[Tsar]

In some cases I believe that education does make a women less feminine but I think it has a lot to do with other factors. If you think about a woman who goes to college, she must spent more years of her youth studying. Many girls sleep around and become whores at Western colleges. Then they go on to work. If a woman is working as a doctor or lawyer then how can she have time for a man? She would be a workaholic careerist woman. Nothing against women entering those fields that but I personally do not want a woman like that.

Education is not a problem. Many upper-class and noblewomen throughout history were educated. The topics they could pursue was restricted and they did not go around becoming harlots. Throughout history, the harlots were shunned and the only job for a harlot was working in a brothel. Today women can pursue any education and they can openly act as harlots, the harlots are congratulated and given good jobs and many men go running to take the harlot as his wife. The education could be one piece of the puzzle in some cases, but the harlotry that goes on throughout a woman's time in high school and university, and the feminist propaganda are what makes a woman less feminine.

Some careers that women are traditionally suited for that does not reduce femininity: singing, dancing, floral arrangements, decorating, baking, something with children, something nurturing, modeling, helping her man with his career, and most importantly doing things for her husband. If the family was rich, the women would only be required to be beautiful and take up a hobby and be a good wife, and a good mother to any children.

In any case, I would prefer any girls I am involved with in the future to have a high school degree, not careerist (maybe no job), and not planning on going for a higher education. She can pursue something nurturing or educate herself through reading.

[Robert77]

there seems to be a correlation with education and lack of happiness....

apparently with women the more independent, educated and successful they are, the less happy they tend to be

[abcdavid01]

Too bad guy ever took (the schools) to court for teaching sexism and misandry! We men cannot change american society, but we should start fighting women in courts with law suits when ever misandry, sexism and double standards are used against men.

We should legally sue feminists and hurt them financially, just as they've been doing to men for decades now.

No, that would be adopting women's methods to use against them. Instead we should only use masculine methods. Either violent revolution or opting out of the system. This site is about the second, though I could absolutely see the first occurring in my lifetime.

"With respect to the distribution of your time, the following is what I should approve: From 8. to 10. o'clock practise music. From 10. to 1. dance one day and draw another. From 1. to 2. draw on the day you dance, and write a letter next day. From 3. to 4. read French. From 4. to 5. exercise yourself in music. From 5. till bedtime, read English, write, etc." - Thomas Jefferson in a letter to his daughter

The problem with women and education is the assumption of egalitarianism. Women are naturally irrational. They make decisions based on feeling. Even the smartest women are likely to just use logic and rationalism to justify their feelings. This is different from men, who are more likely to be passionate about logically constructed arguments. The starting point is less arbitrary for men.

[djfourmoney]

This is another case where men need to be more selective and start taking linguistic classes in College...

Using the word "Ugly" is going to draw ire from Feminist and their White Knight Protectors/Simps.

If you instead said "unattractive" I think that would have gone down a bit better but you still would have been attacked for basing your assumptions about this woman on physical appearance.

What Feminist want is to removed men's tendency to go with youngest, healthiest women available. Beauty has only recently been an issue in popular culture because men in power used it to grade potential employees.

When unqualified but attractive women were hired over more qualified but not as attractive women = Unfair but a human construct

So they went about changing the human construct. There is no going back, you're going to have to adjust to this. If you want to engage feminist you need to select your words carefully something MOST MEN ARE NOT USED TO DOING.

Which is why I don't engage them and they generally don't engage Black men anyway. Fear of a Black dick? I dunno...

As I said before Feminist don't fear White men....

As a side note, there isn't much of this happening in South America or Africa.

I don't fear educated women at all, my mother is one (Georgetown) and my sister (NYU)

[Winston]

Matt Forney makes a great case for why women's education is a waste of resources and a negative effect on society and the economy.

https://mattforney.com/case-female-education/

Btw, how come in Russia, women are very educated and intelligent, yet they are still very feminine and down to earth and proud to be women? How do you explain that? Isn't it the type of education you give them?

In 1800's Victorian England, wealthy families had governesses that taught girls how to act like a lady and educated them too, like home teachers. That made them even more feminine, elegant and graceful. So education can have a positive effect on females if done right.

[mattyman]

I think it's a bit simpistic and binary to assert 'more education=less feminine'. After all you've seen evidence that this is not true;

How come education hasn't made Russian women less feminine?

That's certainly been true of the Russian women I've met. The most unfeminine and rough women I've met have all been from ill-educated backgrounds.

When a woman has excess male attention who isn't even the most attractive, there is a slight problem.

That's a good point, this has probably got a lot more to do with destruction of femininity than education. On this note, it's probably men that are too afraid to show disapproval to rough, aggressive or slutty behavior for fear of disapproval, in some cases even defending it. A large part of why too many anglo women are horrid is that they know thy can get away with murder because no-one will criticize them. That dynamic doesn't exist in other countries (not to the degree that I'm aware of). This probably explains why you meet women from Russia, Lithuania etc. who're very well-educated but also extremely feminine.

[mand38]

Well, I think that education partially destroys women natural "instincts".

[Adama]

In some cases I believe that education does make a women less feminine but I think it has a lot to do with other factors. If you think about a woman who goes to college, she must spent more years of her youth studying. Many girls sleep around and become whores at Western colleges. Then they go on to work. If a woman is working as a doctor or lawyer then how can she have time for a man? She would be a workaholic careerist woman. Nothing against women entering those fields that but I personally do not want a woman like that.

Education is not a problem. Many upper-class and noblewomen throughout history were educated. The topics they could pursue was restricted and they did not go around becoming harlots. Throughout history, the harlots were shunned and the only job for a harlot was working in a brothel. Today women can pursue any education and they can openly act as harlots, the harlots are congratulated and given good jobs and many men go running to take the harlot as his wife. The education could be one piece of the puzzle in some cases, but the harlotry that goes on throughout a woman's time in high school and university, and the feminist propaganda are what makes a woman less feminine.

Some careers that women are traditionally suited for that does not reduce femininity: singing, dancing, floral arrangements, decorating, baking, something with children, something nurturing, modeling, helping her man with his career, and most importantly doing things for her husband. If the family was rich, the women would only be required to be beautiful and take up a hobby and be a good wife, and a good mother to any children.

In any case, I would prefer any girls I am involved with in the future to have a high school degree, not careerist (maybe no job), and not planning on going for a higher education. She can pursue something nurturing or educate herself through reading.

I actually agree with this. Too bad he's been run off.

[MrLee4u]

If anyone is wondering, here's a picture of the above poster

[tom]

These college majors are hopelessly poisoned by feminism: (gender/racial/etc.) studies, sociology, anthropology, geography, cultural anthropology, science educators. Do not under any circumstance have anything to do with, do not hire women with these degrees.