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Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, negative, lonely, alienating, zombie-like, impossible, etc?

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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, antisocial, negative, lonel

Post by Winston » November 17th, 2017, 7:28 pm

Btw let me clarify something. One can make some friends in Taipei or taichung or kaoshiung if one puts in some effort. Because those are cosmopolitan areas of taiwan, so they have educated people who speak English and can converse with foreigners more.

However, usually these are not real friends, but more like acquaintances. They are the kind of "friends" that you can only talk about polite subjects with, such as the weather, not the kind you can talk about your problems with or discuss deeper subjects. Or even be honest with. You see, if you offend them in any way or say anything controversial or negative, they will cut you off and treat you like a freak. Thats not what real friends do. But its not surprising because thats exactly how people who are superficial and judgmental tend to treat others.

In short, friendships in Taiwan are very DISSATISFYING, even when you make a few. They are low quality friendships that do not satisfy your needs for quality social relationships, and more like acquaintances than true friends. Such "friendships" also drift apart easily if not maintained, which is not surprising given the very superficial nature of Taiwanese in general.

In Taiwan there are unspoken rules regarding "friendships", which people instinctively feel. They are:

- No talking about anything negative or controversial. Ironically even though taiwanese women are negative, superficial and judgmental, they dont like to hear anything negative even though they are negative people themselves. Very odd i know.
- Only talk about polite subjects like the weather or simple practical subjects.
- Don't say anything thats not politically correct, especially about taiwan.
- Dont say anything weird that could be judged negatively. Act square.
- Dont discuss new ideas and theories. Thats intimidating to asians since 99.9999 percent of asians cannot form new ideas or think outside the box like white people do. Thus its rude to intimidate them or make them think outside their box. Its inappropriate. Taiwanese prefer to be closed and narrow minded and will gladly admit it if you ask.

Go to Taiwan and try breaking these social rules and see what happens. They'll avoid you. All this is indicative of a people who are very superficial and judgmental and not your true friends, but are more like acquaintances. In short, any "friendships" you make in Taiwanese with locals is very empty and dissatisfying.
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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, antisocial, negative, lonely?

Post by Falcon » November 24th, 2017, 7:01 pm

I recently went to Taiwan when my dad asked me to meet him there.

And it turned out to be a very unpleasant experience.

My relatives and their friends were a bunch of really strict, uptight, negative, narrow-minded middle-aged women who all treated me like a child despite the fact that I'm now 26. They all had to micromanage my behavior and would make me feel like I was an employee being berated for little things. I could not feel any sort of family warmth with them at all. Relatives from both my mom's and dad's sides were like that, not just a few people.

Examples:
"Put the bag there! Show some common sense, don't be dumb."
"Go wash that. Use that soap. No you should do it this way. Why did you forget that spot there?"
"Put that thing there. No, don't use that."
"Eat this first. I said eat that before you go."
"What are you doing abroad? Why are doing this and that?"
"Let the elders eat first. Put rice in their bowls and pour them tea. No, pour the tea this way. No no, that way."
"Ai-ya!"

When I visited them, I was in for a multiple unpleasant interrogations with lots of negative comments.
Let me put it this way: If the glass is half full, they have to look at it as if it's half empty.

My grandmother is now being taken care of by a new Indonesian caregiver at a hospital in Taipei. With my nagging aunt, dad, and family friends giving me a hard time while I'm stuck there, only the Indonesian caregiver and another Filipina caregiver there were pleasant to talk to. I felt so much happier, liberated, and relaxed with that vibe.

I really feel uncomfortable around all these uptight Taiwanese. You can never make them happy. You always feel inadequate and in FEAR. One way or another, you are always forced to feel bad. Not even Winston's parents are like that. His are actually much more lenient for upper-middle class Taiwanese parents.

The most positive social interactions of my trip where with my family's Indonesian caregiver, a Filipina maid, and a Vietnamese office worker that I had met. Every Taiwanese was either an authoritarian who made you shake with fear (my cranky old female relatives) or a half-dead zombie (the younger generation).

I'm sure I'm not the only guy who feels this way. There's just something really weird about Taiwan's vibe, despite its first-world cleanliness and efficiency. Singapore and Hong Kong are way different, with loud, energetic, boisterous locals who have way more energy and positivity than many Taiwanese.

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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, antisocial, negative, lonely, alienating, depressing, etc?

Post by Winston » January 4th, 2018, 4:36 pm

A rarity. Video of friendly Taiwanese girl I met named Joyce in 2004. I talked to her on the bus and she spoke good English and was enthusiastic to talk to me. When we got off the bus, I filmed this clip of her. I tried to film many other girls during that trip to Taiwan but they were all either too camera shy or stiff and cold, no confidence at all. It's a pity Taiwan does not teach its people to be confident and assertive at all, but quite the opposite, hence it's a very negative culture but no one has the guts to expose this simple fact except me. Am I the bravest man in the world or what? lol

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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, antisocial, negative, lonely, alienating, depressing, etc?

Post by Winston » January 10th, 2018, 7:43 am

I have a question. How come young taiwanese people never have opinions or observations or insights? All they do is say what they are supposed to say and do what they are supposed to do. Like total robots. Sometimes older taiwanese or middle aged taiwanese have some opinions. But the young ones dont. All they can say is "its nice" or "its good" etc and act super meek and reserved, which is annoying and unnatural. Makes me uncomfortable. Taiwan is the weirdest country in asia for sure. I dont connect with such a zombie land at all.
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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, negative, lonely, alienating, zombie-like, impossible, etc?

Post by Winston » June 13th, 2018, 8:55 pm

In taiwan now. At the airport while waiting 5 hours for my bus line to start, i noticed something. The foreign girls i talked to from Philippines or Thailand were friendly and warm. But when i said hi to any local taiwanese girls or women they looked very uncomfortable and annoyed as though i were bothering them. Some of them even changed their seat when i sat near them as though my vibe repelled them. They were so cold and unfriendly and unsociable. Why the big difference? Its not true that people here and everywhere are friendly. Why does everyone say that?

So basically only foreigners and elderly are friendly and sociable in Taiwan. Not young people and especially young women. Thats the obvious pattern. So why does no one else on the internet point this out except me? Am i the only one in the world with guts and honesty? And why do many websites claim Taiwan is rated the friendliest country for expats? How can it be friendly if no one wants to be your friend? Lol.

Which of these would best explain this mystery:

1. I am lying.
2. All taiwanese women are in on a conspiracy to be unfriendly to me and friendly to everyone else.
3. My definition of friendliness is different from others. Most people seem to think friendly means politeness. Taiwanese think that too. But my definition is different. To me friendly means "sociable and outgoing".
4. Everyone else is too gutless and cowardly to tell the truth about Taiwanese people. Im the bravest and most truthful person in the world. Braver than any of the truthers like david icke who would never dare say what i said above.
5. Something else im missing.

Whats the best explanation to this mystery of why no one points this out except me, even though its obvious? If no one on the entire world wide web said that the sky was blue except you, wouldnt you be perplexed and stupified as well?????

However i know the problem cant be me because:

1. I have no trouble making friends in most other countries. I am outgoing and sociable and confident. Taiwanese girls in contrast act like scaredy cats, they look scared and weak, with zero confidence and zero social skills. No joke. They act scared to death to talk to strangers and have a very weird vibe as well. And they look annoyed if you bother them. Trying to meet them feels rude and inappropriate. You arent supposed to stare at them either. You're expected to pretend they dont exist. Wtf?!

2. Most taiwanese ive made small talk with agree with me amd acknowledge that taiwanese females are closed and cold and do not talk to strangers and arent sociable. So Taiwanese themselves dont deny it. Especially if they are honest and down to earth and not divas or airheads who are afraid to say anything uncool.

3. I see lots of foreigners in Taiwan looking lonely and bored too. You dont see that in other countries. Even in taipei and taichung you usually see that foreigners are either alone or with other foreigners only. Never with local mainstream taiwanese. Ive taken many photos of them to prove this. This speaks volumes. Sometimes of course you see foreigners hanging out with westernized taiwanese or asian americans (like me). But never with local mainstream taiwanese.

Even one of Taiwans top celebrities, Janet Hsieh, only hangs out with foreigners too, because shes Asian American. Every time i saw her on TV or in real life, she is with foreigners, often acquaintances, not true friends. So if even a celebrity only hangs out with foreigners in Taiwan too, that speaks volumes.

4. Also many foreigners, at least half, agree with my views about taiwan and how cold and unsociable the women are. They concur with me in person or over email. Yet theyll never mention it in a blog or website or forum or YouTube video, etc. Why so gutless about offending others?

So you see the four factors above strongly attest to me not being the problem.

So how do you explain this vast discrepancy? And why does no one talk about it online except me? Ive been asking these questions on my forum and blog since 2009 yet no one can give me a comprehensive answer. Why?

Even the JFK assassination is easier to explain than this mystery. Lol

Furthermore if Taiwan is one of the hardest places to make any true friends or connections or find any soulful people, as i can strongly attest to, then why do many websites claim Taiwan is rated #1 in terms of friendliness? How can it be friendly if no one wants to be your friend? This question stumps everyone in Taiwan i ask. I can only assume that people are confusing politeness and friendliness. Even the dictionary defines those terms differently.

In truth, Taiwan is similar to Seattle Washington in that the social motto is simply: "Have a nice day..... Somewhere else. Not around me." In other words, polite but unsocial and no interest in connecting with others or hanging out or meeting people or in engaging in good conversation. Nothing but superficial politeness.

Btw i also noticed in Taiwan that there are no colorful personalities or eccentric characters or unique individuals like there are in Italy. Everyone here seems so bland and dull and boring. Especially the young crowd. They have no opinions on anything either. The older and elderly taiwanese have some opinions at least, though not very deep ones. But the young ones have none at all, and no ability to make any insights or observations on anything. So weird. You gotta wonder if they are even alive. Lol. But that's true of Asia in general. Young people are like cookie cutter automatons, not much difference between them. So zombie like. Like a sci fi dystopia movie. Lol.

How come no asians complain about this except me? Lol

Even rock said that in italy every person there has their own eccentric colorful personality and character. Italy would be a lot more fun than asia. The soulfulness there is so amazing and rich and unlike anything you can find in asia or america. Dont u ever wonder why we arent in Europe instead? Makes no sense.
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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, negative, lonely, alienating, zombie-like, impossible, etc?

Post by Winston » June 13th, 2018, 8:59 pm

[5/23, 9:42 PM] Winston: Its so alienating here. You cant talk to people or connect with them or have a normal conversation with them. How come no one else complains about this too?

[5/23, 9:43 PM] Winston: The body language, mannerisms and facial expressions here are very creepy and negative. Cant stand it. Why did God make taiwanese like this? Feels impossible here.

[5/23, 9:48 PM] Winston: No one here is authentic, soulful or down to earth at all. How can you tolerate that? How come others are ok with that and dont complain? Is it all in my mind?

[5/29, 6:09 AM] Winston: Why do my own friends lie about me? I must be unlucky. See below.

[5/9, 5:19 PM] Rock Philippines: Taiwanese people may generally be selectively nice to people who fit their ideas of normal or to tourist families or white women or clean cut looking foreigners but nasty to creepy looking Chinese guys.

[5/29, 5:27 AM] Winston: But im very clean cut. U know that. I dont look nasty or creepy. Come on. How come in other countries people dont treat me like im nasty and give me a lot more respect?

[5/29, 5:28 AM] Winston: Its not my looks. Its my vibe. People who are very reserved dont tend to like me. That includes seattle and probably Scandinavia too.

[5/29, 5:28 AM] Winston: But i was dressed in nice clothes and at the airport no one is poor if they can afford a plane ticket.

[5/29, 5:29 AM] Winston: How come the thai and filipino girls were nice and warm to me at the airport if im so nasty looking? Makes no sense rock. U got a better more logical reason?

[5/29, 5:29 AM] Winston: Explanation i mean.

[5/29, 6:04 AM] Winston: Btw why do u say i look nasty and creepy. U know thats not true. Ask all my friends. No one thinks i look nasty and creepy, at least not in appearance. So why do u lie about that? Didn't your parents teach you that lying is wrong?

Why do u insist on believing that taiwanese girls are normal, natural and healthy and sociable? You know thats not true. Youve been to Taiwan. Youre not stupid. You can easily see what i mean. They have a weird negative unsocial vibe and a spoiled narcissistic personality too.

Falcon does not look nasty for sure. Yet he doesnt find taiwanese girls sociable at all. You know that im sure. So why u lie and claim that i am something that im not. That's dishonest and totally illogical rock.
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Re: Why is Taiwan so unfriendly, cold, closed, repressed, negative, lonely, alienating, zombie-like, impossible, etc?

Post by Winston » June 13th, 2018, 9:09 pm

Tonight at a vegetarian canteen the owner told me that i ought to find a wife or girlfriend in taiwan so i can settle here. I told her it was totally impossible since the women here never want to talk to me and are completely closed and antisocial if i even try to talk to them. Its totally hopeless.

She denied it and said that taiwanese are world renowned for their friendliness and hospitality. I said thats not true, especially now. Young people today are all into their smart phones and have zero interest in meeting new people or making new friends. Its hopeless in Taiwan or such Chinese, Japanese and American countries now. People may be polite and talk to you a few minutes, but thats it. They dont wanna make friends. Ive been to 14 countries and you gotta go to warmer soul countries to meet people, like Europe or Latin America.

She replied that i just havent met the right people yet. I responded that one cannot wait 10 or 20 years to meet "the right people". No one has that much time to burn. If it was meant to be, if God wanted me to have a taiwanese wife, i would have had one long ago. So obviously its not in my destiny.

Moreover even when i meet taiwanese women they usually dont like me and we have nothing in common. No connection or energy at all. And they usually dislike you if you are different than them in any way. Thats been my experience. They are highly judgmental. She again replied that i just havent met the right people yet. What a cliche. Totally useless. Lol
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