Dating Middle Class Filipinas?

[Ghost]

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[mentor]

Not a virgin, of course, so that instantly disqualified her for marriage.

Can you explain it a little bit?

Women who do not save their virginity for their husband do not deserve marriage.

Very nice declaration, being a christian I want it too.
But I can also understand that there are good girls who are deceived by many guys, some guys seem serious and they are not etc. So I do not want to be absolute about it, and blame the girls alone.

I have also read that some families want to be paid for this virginity of the daughters, so this is not something I like it as a tactic.

[Ghost]

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[mentor]

I have to be absolute about it or I will end up miserable. Compromise is for business, or work, or something like that. This is my unbreakable principle.

All girls have to do is keep their legs closed until marriage. If she can't do such a simple thing, I could never be happy with her nor could I trust her.

If she'll spread her legs with another guy before marriage, she'll spread her legs with another guy after marriage.

I like your reasoning.
But tell me, is it possible to find out virgin girls?
I mean, how much does a conversation has to proceed in order to ask a girl if she is virgin?

I saw a few online profiles with filipinas, telling 'no boyfriend since birth' or 'had no relationship before', but these were really very few cases.
Maybe there are others too, but they do not declare it online.

On the other hand, I have really terrible experience in my life, with a virgin girl, who was with me for many years, long term relationship, strong bonding, and many other things I do not want to mention here.
She does f@@ed my life completely. She ruined me by many aspects. I cannot give more details, but it is just my truth.
She was virgin, I was the one and only, but, her problematic character was revealed over time, and the shy and innocent girl was transformed to almost a bitch!
So, I had to reconsider my position about it.
Because, 'what it seems to shine, it is not always gold'.

[Ghost]

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[mentor]

If I really want to consider the girl marriage material, I ask fairly quickly. Sometimes on the same day. And I don't just straight up ask with no context. I say something like this:

"I want to be honest with you about what I'm looking for. I am only willing to marry a virgin girl. This is my principle and I won't change it. I want to be honest with you about this because I don't want to waste my time or yours and I don't want either of us to get hurt. Just please be honest with me."

I usually say more than that, but that's the gist of it. Respectful, solemn, serious. In my experience, mostly with Filipinas, no need to wait long.

What is your success rate in filipina virgins quest?
Just to have a clue, because it seems a rare thing in our days.

[Ghost]

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[mentor]

I was discussing with a friend the 'money' matter, and he told me:
" it is not a 'tradition', it is called 'poverty' " !!! And he continued: " They search for a fool, one man to work, and feed all the family back in their country! "
Quite shocking point of view, but I examine everything, as we do not live in a world of angels.

I don't know, maybe it's a good idea to declare somewhere in the profile, something that some filipinas already say in their profiles, 'not ask for money', or something like that.
May be this could discourage filipinas with this topic in mind, as a primary priority.
It is a different topic what I will decide about it later. But just back off the ones who search primarily for sponsors.

[HouseMD]

I was discussing with a friend the 'money' matter, and he told me:
" it is not a 'tradition', it is called 'poverty' " !!! And he continued: " They search for a fool, one man to work, and feed all the family back in their country! "
Quite shocking point of view, but I examine everything, as we do not live in a world of angels.

I don't know, maybe it's a good idea to declare somewhere in the profile, something that some filipinas already say in their profiles, 'not ask for money', or something like that.
May be this could discourage filipinas with this topic in mind, as a primary priority.
It is a different topic what I will decide about it later. But just back off the ones who search primarily for sponsors.

You are too focused on the money issue. Your criteria contradict themselves... you will not find what you are looking for this way. You want:

-A simple, traditional Filipina = tends to not come from a well-to-do family
-A girl who does not require financial support for her family = a financially independent, middle class girl
-A girl who does not want children = almost always an educated woman, almost always a career woman and not traditional

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sorry, but this money issue is going to bite you in the a**. You won't find a "simple" Filipina girl who has no career, wants to stay at home and be a housewife, when you refuse to give her parents any support and refuse to give her children. This is why you are failing. You will have to look for the higher income Filipinas, or else you will fail. Mark my words.

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A traditional Filipina won't be down with not having kids. That's just not how they roll. If you want a traditional girl, you'd better be ready to be a traditional man, and part of that involves being a father. If you don't want that, you'll have to go for the middle and upper class Filipinas, which tend to not have traditional values but are okay with not having children.

[davewe]

I was discussing with a friend the 'money' matter, and he told me:
" it is not a 'tradition', it is called 'poverty' " !!! And he continued: " They search for a fool, one man to work, and feed all the family back in their country! "
Quite shocking point of view, but I examine everything, as we do not live in a world of angels.

I don't know, maybe it's a good idea to declare somewhere in the profile, something that some filipinas already say in their profiles, 'not ask for money', or something like that.
May be this could discourage filipinas with this topic in mind, as a primary priority.
It is a different topic what I will decide about it later. But just back off the ones who search primarily for sponsors.

You are too focused on the money issue. Your criteria contradict themselves... you will not find what you are looking for this way. You want:

-A simple, traditional Filipina = tends to not come from a well-to-do family
-A girl who does not require financial support for her family = a financially independent, middle class girl
-A girl who does not want children = almost always an educated woman, almost always a career woman and not traditional

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sorry, but this money issue is going to bite you in the a**. You won't find a "simple" Filipina girl who has no career, wants to stay at home and be a housewife, when you refuse to give her parents any support and refuse to give her children. This is why you are failing. You will have to look for the higher income Filipinas, or else you will fail. Mark my words.

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And since he is not higher income himself, he will not find one of these elusive middle or upper class Pinays. Finding an attractive, youngish Pinay who has a good job and/or money, and is interested in a Westerner who does not have a good job and/or money is like looking for a unicorn.

This is why many men fail abroad. Their requirements are contradictory.

[Jonny Law]

Poor Filipinas are Awesome.

Instead of dating Middle Class Pinays why not just date another Feminist Western Bitch.

[HouseMD]

Poor Filipinas are Awesome.

Instead of dating Middle Class Pinays why not just date another Feminist Western Bitch.

Because the middle class ones are still far, far better than a Western feminist and I like a girl that I can take around the world with me that doesn't just want to sit around at home and make babies and maybe understands the words that are coming out of my mouth when I'm talking about college-level material. I mean, as a physician-in-training I need a certain level of intellectual stimulation or I get bored with a girl.

[Jonny Law]

Finding an educated and Middle Class chick is a whole lot easier in America and the Western nations.

I just got back for the Manila and Butuan City. Trust me there are a lot more poor girls than Middle Class girls.

-Newsflash-
Poor chicks in the Philippines are Awesome.

[HouseMD]

Finding an educated and Middle Class chick is a whole lot easier in America and the Western nations.

I just got back for the Manila and Butuan City. Trust me there are a lot more poor girls than Middle Class girls.

-Newsflash-
Poor chicks in the Philippines are Awesome.

There's plenty of educated women in the Philippines that have far superior values to your average Western girl. I'm not looking nowadays, but if I were, there's plenty of girls with both decent values and a decent education in the areas around the big universities. I figure I might go over there and do some guest lecturing at the medical or nursing schools if (God forbid) I end up looking for love again. A Filipina nurse would be damn near perfect- the visas are easy, the income is solid, and I can actually talk to them about work if I feel like it.

[Jonny Law]

Your a f***ing idiot if you go to the Philippines looking for a Middle Class Bitch.

There are far more poor girls in the Philippines.

You HouseMD are a wealthier individual. You have more options than the average HA forum reader. My advice might not be right for you.

If you are not a rich asshole like HouseMD: going to the Philippines looking for a Middle Class Bitch is f***ing retarded. Trust me the Middle Class ones are picky, bitchy and few in number.