Mass Killing by Sexually Frustrated Young Man in California

[pandabear]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/us/ca ... 18218&_r=1

Here is his video of the day before:


It really is too bad that he never heard of Happier Abroad. Of course, most of us here are frustrated with American women and American culture.

A few weeks in Thailand would have solved his problem, and given him a whole new perspective on life.



When he came back to America, he would just be sticking his tongue out at the girls who had rejected him, rather than shooting them.

Or, since he is in California, he could have just gone down to Tijuana to take care of his problem. The solution is really so simple.

[publicduende]

Nah I don't buy it. The guy was from an upper class family who had travelled all over the world. He was driving a BMW for God's sake. He could have flown first class to Bangkok at every class break and spent 2 weeks in the most expensive hotel, with a Jacuzzi full of different young models every day, if he wanted.

It didn't happen. He was staying at home, moaning about his shitty life and actually feeling contented with broadcasting his lone man status to YouTube. See the pattern here?

Elliot Rodger and his 6 victims were, directly or indirectly, victims of the same epidemic that sweeps entire generations in the US and several other Western countries: the soul-freezing fear of reaching out to the other without this massive dose of expectations and entitlement.

[pandabear]

He could have solved his problem. Maybe he just wasn't aware of women being any different anywhere else.

[publicduende]

He could have solved his problem. Maybe he just wasn't aware of women being any different anywhere else.

Or, he was convinced that he had it to have it his way, or no way.

[Bitch_Slapper]

Elliot Rodger and his 6 victims were, directly or indirectly, victims of the same epidemic that sweeps entire generations in the US and several other Western countries: the soul-freezing fear of reaching out to the other without this massive dose of expectations and entitlement.

Well yeah, that's the nature of his society, which is totally f***ed beyond repair at this point. That's why this forum is about leaving and finding better prospects elsewhere. Because once he's in a more socially normal environment, he doesn't have to worry about expectations and entitlements from people who weren't that significant to begin with.

[TopSpruce]

He could have solved his problem. Maybe he just wasn't aware of women being any different anywhere else.

Or, he was convinced that he had it to have it his way, or no way.

You hit the nail on the head.

A healthy person will adapt and find new solutions to problems. This guy got stuck.

[Flatland]

This guy's problem was that he was part of the "PUAHate" culture.

[IraqVet2003]

First I would like to say I feel sorry for the loss for all the victims and their families of this great crime. However, I don't like the media to blaming guns and gun owners for this massacre. I blame this SPOILED sick, crazy YOUNG MAN and RICH HIS PARENTS for not raising him right. Plus if he was that desperate for women he could have gone to MEXICO, BRASIL, EUROPE or flown to THAILAND either as an EXCHANGE STUDENT or as a TOURIST to find hot women to be with. This story reminds me of the George Sandini shoot up on youtube
mentioned by Steve Hoca.

[Cornfed]

Was Elliot necessarily rich or just his family? Maybe like a lot of people of their generation his parents were selfish jerks who would not share their wealth and opportunities with their children.

[Tsar]

Was Elliot necessarily rich or just his family? Maybe like a lot of people of their generation his parents were selfish jerks who would not share their wealth and opportunities with their children.

Probably selfish jerks.

[zboy1]

You'll see more and more mass shootings and stabbings happening all over the place--even in Asia and Europe--as people (especially men) have become disenchanted and disillusioned with their lives...

Sad, really. Women have really begun to get the 'upper-hand' on men, everywhere, and it's only a matter-of-time before men really start to get 'ticked-off' and demand changes to society.

But at least here in Asia, I don't have to worry about nonsense like this, even as mass stabbings are taking place in Taiwan and China. Plus, I get to enjoy my life in Asia with pretty girls...even if some of them are as materialistic and demanding as Western women, unfortunately...

[publicduende]

You'll see more and more mass shootings and stabbings happening all over the place--even in Asia and Europe--as people (especially men) have become disenchanted and disillusioned with their lives...

Sad, really. Women have really begun to get the 'upper-hand' on men, everywhere, and it's only a matter-of-time before men really start to get 'ticked-off' and demand changes to society.

But at least here in Asia, I don't have to worry about nonsense like this, even as mass stabbings are taking place in Taiwan and China. Plus, I get to enjoy my life in Asia with pretty girls...even if some of them are as materialistic and demanding as Western women, unfortunately...

Yes, but what changes should men advocate and push for? Force the better looking women to have sex with the uglier, less desirable men by decree? Not even the most odious declensions of socialism went that far.

Women don't have the upper hand, they have a hand and, for the past few decades, have been allowed to sit at the table as equal players.

The problem is elsewhere. We have, as a generation of adults, forgot to teach our children the most basic rules of human behaviour: patience and discipline, compassion and tenderness. These kids have been told that they can have it all, but never taught to value what they are having, let alone how to get it. And when, after the BMW and the first class travelling, they see there's one thing - sex, or love, or any mix thereof - that is still outside their reach because it involves real feelings and somebody else's free will, they cannot process and crash like a program hitting a fatal bug.

Asia might not express societal decay of its young generations with tragic force of a mass shooting event, but the seeds are sown there too. Young people in Japan are in full post-materialistic stage, frozen in their resignation to a purposeless life. They don't want to work, procreate and even be creative anymore. South Korea and, I believe, China are following in the pipeline for this silent implosion.

[zboy1]

You'll see more and more mass shootings and stabbings happening all over the place--even in Asia and Europe--as people (especially men) have become disenchanted and disillusioned with their lives...

Sad, really. Women have really begun to get the 'upper-hand' on men, everywhere, and it's only a matter-of-time before men really start to get 'ticked-off' and demand changes to society.

But at least here in Asia, I don't have to worry about nonsense like this, even as mass stabbings are taking place in Taiwan and China. Plus, I get to enjoy my life in Asia with pretty girls...even if some of them are as materialistic and demanding as Western women, unfortunately...

Yes, but what changes should men advocate and push for? Force the better looking women to have sex with the uglier, less desirable men by decree? Not even the most odious declensions of socialism went that far.

Women don't have the upper hand, they have a hand and, for the past few decades, have been allowed to sit at the table as equal players.

The problem is elsewhere. We have, as a generation of adults, forgot to teach our children the most basic rules of human behaviour: patience and discipline, compassion and tenderness. These kids have been told that they can have it all, but never taught to value what they are having, let alone how to get it. And when, after the BMW and the first class travelling, they see there's one thing - sex, or love, or any mix thereof - that is still outside their reach because it involves real feelings and somebody else's free will, they cannot process and crash like a program hitting a fatal bug.

Asia might not express societal decay of its young generations with tragic force of a mass shooting event, but the seeds are sown there too. Young people in Japan are in full post-materialistic stage, frozen in their resignation to a purposeless life. They don't want to work, procreate and even be creative anymore. South Korea and, I believe, China are following in the pipeline for this silent implosion.

Yes, all that you said about Korea, China and Japan are, unfortunately true.

Teaching decency and respect in the younger generations is paramount, but is falling on deaf years. But having said that, I wouldn't blame all of this on the Gen Y and the Millennial generations...I blame this on the biggest culprit of all: the Baby Boomers!--and their excessive greed and narcissism, their poor parenting skills, and bringing in 60s style feminism, radicalism, and 80s/90s yuppie culture into the mainstream...

[Cornfed]

Yes, but what changes should men advocate and push for? Force the better looking women to have sex with the uglier, less desirable men by decree?

The restoration of traditional values of functional societies. For example, females to be punished for dressing provocatively or acting sluttishly. Female sexuality to be controlled by their husbands, fathers or pimps. Adulterers to be executed. Prostitution to be subsidized so that all men could afford it. Employing females directly to be banned. Females should not be paid much more than minimum wage and the money should go to their husbands, fathers or pimps. Omega males attempting to get sex outside the useful social structures of p4p and marriage to be exterminated as a public nuisance. And so on.

[nicho12]

Yes, but what changes should men advocate and push for? Force the better looking women to have sex with the uglier, less desirable men by decree?

The restoration of traditional values of functional societies. For example, females to be punished for dressing provocatively or acting sluttishly. Female sexuality to be controlled by their husbands, fathers or pimps. Adulterers to be executed. p4p to be subsidized so that all men could afford it. Employing females directly to be banned. Females should not be paid much more than minimum wage and the money should go to their husbands, fathers or pimps. Omega males attempting to get sex outside the useful social structures of p4p and marriage to be exterminated as a public nuisance. And so on.

Cornfed, before these changes can be implemented, the elites who are benefiting from the system must first be exterminated and that will be the hardest and bloodiest task to accomplish if it can even be accomplished because I don't see many men today who are up to that task, most have become such a spineless bunch of wimps. So my best weapon for destroying this system would be a total economic collapse because I don't think men will revolt until that happens