Winston wrote:anamericaninbangkok wrote:
While I don't dispute many men are happier abroad, if I were taking a seminar, I would want the seminar done by someone who is actually living abroad. You're doing this, or at least were, but Steve is not. If I were going to pay for a seminar, I would look at him as a guy who went to Thailand for a few weeks. To me and to many others, that's no big deal as Thailand is one of the most frequent tourist destinations.
You are barking up the wrong tree. This is a global dating seminar explaining why men will have better dating choices, and more choices as well, overseas. Not an expat seminar. Ladislav would do that as a follow up if people are interested.
At least Steve has a great gospel of good news for the million of single lonely men in America. And he is a talented speaker for sure. What do you have to offer? How can you help all the desperate men in America who live in loneliness and regret everyday for wasted years?
Man, you seem way out of touch with reality and with people.
Also, the statement "Every girl is either too taken, too young, too heavy or too good," is rubbish. There are plenty of men, and I was one of them, who never had any serious issues with women. There are happily married men, men who are in strong, healthy relationships, and while there are definitely relationship problems in the US and around the world, there are plenty of foreigners coming to the US getting laid. They're just like an American coming to the PI or Thailand. When I went to France and to Holland and the UK, I was a foreigner and I met and slept with a good number of women.
It is not rubbish. What YOU says is far MORE rubbish. What Steve said confirms my experiences in the US and that of most guys here, 100 percent.
I've approached thousands of girls in the US, literally, and that statement accurately summarizes my experience. I don't know who you are, but denying something doesn't change reality. For example, if you deny that 2+2=4 that doesn't mean that your argument is legit. Anyone can deny anything.
99 percent of single guys in America will admit that dating in America sucks for guys. Who should I believe? Everyone or you? What makes you more credible than everyone else here?
Look at all these many testimonials from guys who have experienced all this:
http://www.happierabroad.com/testimonials.php
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page74b.htm
Why are you more credible than all those genuine testimonials and experiences?
What's your full name? Mind if I do a credit check on you? There are tons of liars and weirdos out there who BS. You can meet them in cheap motels too. How do I know you're not one of them?
Remember you are just an anonymous guy. You don't have character references from third party sources. No one knows how honest you are. You are also appear to be on a different wavelength and don't get the obvious implications of what we're doing.
Where in America did you approach girls? I'll bet that you aren't any better at approaching women in the US than anyone else. Most guys who say that it's easy to get laid in the US are full of shit when put to the test. It's far MORE PLAUSIBLE that someone got laid a lot in Thailand than in America.
Winston wrote:Steve really vibes with Thai people well it seems. Today when we were at a Thai restaurant, a Thai wife and her daughter looked at him and smiled flirtatiously, even in front of her own husband. Even the daughter smiled at him flirtatiously. It was unusual. It's like he has a magnetic connection with Thai people.
Maybe so but if you know anything about Thais, this is quite common. They'll flirt, ask you if you want a girlfriend or wife, and then when push comes to shove, many will simply say, "No, I'm married, joking." or "I have a boyfriend."
That's not what Ladislav, Rock or Repatriate have told me. Ladislav said he was treated like shit in Thailand. Also, the mother and daughter who smiled at him did not smile at me. So no, they don't do that to everyone.
You are very strange and narrow and seem to think that you can deny anything and create a legit argument out of it.
In contrast, when we walked around Chinatown, the Chinese there looked cold and stared off into another dimension.
In my experience with Chinese, they're far different than Thais. Chinese are less open than Thais, who when dealing with Issaners especially, will laugh and joke with you like you're an old friend.
Yes I agree, at least in America. But many of my friends said that Chinese women in China are very approachable.
Yes Steve is here, but he wants to be in Thailand instead. He just needs to make money to live back there. He also has a daughter here that he visits too. She is open minded, into conspiracies, and interested in visiting Thailand too, which is awesome cause most people's daughters aren't like that.
What does being into conspiracies have to do with wanting to come to Thailand? My sister came, and she's obviously my mother's daughter, so I'm not so sure "most people's daughters aren't like that." Like I said, Thailand is a huge tourist destination and not only for men.
Dude you are on a totally different wavelength. Why do you ask me to explain the obvious? Being open minded means you're open to new things, such as conspiracies, going to foreign countries, etc. Most Americans don't travel overseas. If you can't even see such a simple big picture, then your viewpoint is skewed.
Also, I've heard your voice in your video and is VERY DULL compared to Steve. He is a very talented speaker and has a lot of energy in his voice. He definitely has a potential to help a lot of guys in America. You don't. Thus he has a HUGE ASSET for this movement that you don't. What have you done to help all the lonely guys in America? Nothing?
I'm also a very good judge of character and very insightful when it comes to human nature and psychology. So I know a winner when I see one. Together, me and Steve would make a winning combo and winning team. He is a very talented speaker and presenter, and I am very informative and look/sound credible. Two guys doing this looks more credible than just one too.
In contrast, you're just a guy who talks and is not good in logic or reason. You have no vision either. We are responding to a higher calling. You are just talking out of your a**. Big difference.
There's nothing wrong with skepticism. I'm full of skepticism all the time. But you aren't making any legit arguments or points. In fact, you aren't even aware of what we are doing. So you've lost the plot from the get-go.
Steve knows matchmakers in Bangkok and already has a system figured out. He would be good at running romance tours and matchmaking services. His dad is also hooked up with connections in Bangkok too.
Good luck with this. There are already numerous sites like Thai Friendly, Cupid Thai, ThaiLoveLines...he needs to be very careful about how he goes about doing these tours. Foreigners are prohibited from giving tours here, which is why the Thais are the ones running tours. He especially needs to be careful of the Thais suspecting there's any type of hanky-panky going on. They can and will view this as sex trafficking. My guess is once the Thais hear about this, someone is going to come a knocking with their hand out. Believe that.
AFA does tours in Thailand. This would be a personalized matchmaking tour, not just a regular dating site. If you can't see that difference, then you are lost and beyond reason.
Mark Davis does tours to the Ukraine, so why can't they be done in Thailand?
Steve likes your idea of charging $49.95 too, since he thinks this info is worth gold. But that price, I think we'd have to provide a seminar room rather than a living room. Plus, I'm not sure if people would think it's worth the price if they are skeptical.
I'm still confused. What is it you both are providing? I understand what you're providing. You can do just about anything related to this site and it will probably be at least moderately successful. But what is it he is providing? Like I said, to me, he's a guy who couldn't get laid in the US, came to Thailand for a couple of weeks, and now is trying to make money professing women are better abroad. I may be looking at this the wrong way but...I don't think so.
How are you still confused? Is your IQ below average? No one else is confused. We are providing a seminar explaining to men why the dating scene sucks, why women think they're too good for them, why they aren't getting dates, and what the real solution is. We are in a unique position to define the problem like no other. Thus we are in a position to provide the solution, one that is real and that works. Staying in America and blaming yourself is not going to change anything.
Dude, it sounds like you belong on a more politically correct mainstream site, not a truthful freethinking site. You don't seem like you have any freethinking ability. No offense. But your words are extremely dense for some reason.
Even if Steve exaggerates, he still knows a lot of important things that will help guys in America and give them hope, and he is a very talented speaker. That I can see for sure.
As for me, I don't like to pay a lot, so I don't like to charge a lot too. I also don't need the money as much. But Steve is a really good speaker, a natural, and is probably worth the price. I'm not a magnetic orator, but I have a look and vibe that makes people see me as credible, sincere, believable and down-to-earth.
From my perspective, and again I could be wrong, you're the draw. Call me skeptical because I've already done more abroad than most people, but I'm not sure I would be keen to pay to hear what a guy has to say who has spent a few weeks in Thailand. Also, I think it would benefit you and whatever seminar you do, to come to Thailand for a couple of weeks so you can say, "been there." Even though you'll be saying, "didn't spend much time there," you have experience elsewhere and it adds up.
This isn't a seminar about Thailand. It's a seminar about the BENEFITS AND ADVANTAGES OF INTERNATIONAL DATING FOR MEN and the GLOBAL DATING SOLUTION! How many times do I have to say that? Everyone else here knows that. Why don't you? It's like your mind is warped out of reality or something. So weird!
Steve doesn't want us to mention "global dating" in our flyer though. What do you think? Would that term turn people away?
Again, what makes this any different than other dating services? Or the one that takes tours to Russia? What is proprietary other than perhaps the name Happier Abroad?
My God. Are you deliberately trying to pretend to be stupid? Do you understand English?
This isn't a dating service. We never said it was. It's an educational seminar to teach single frustrated guys why the dating scene in America is NOT their fault and why it sucks so much and what they can do about it that will change everything. We DEFINE the problem and offer the SOLUTION! Plain and simple.
The matchmaking service that Steve is planning would be a FOLLOW UP and something he would do later on. It has nothing to do with the public seminar. The seminar would be about PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS. Do you understand those words?
Also, in a personalized matchmaking service, the women are screened, whereas they are NOT screened on dating sites. Didn't you know that? Why do you think guys go on Mark Davis' tour? He screens out his clients and the women. Steve would do the same. He would screen out the guys and the women too.
Didn't you read the flyer draft above? It explains it all! Sheesh. It's like you are a dumb kid or something. Why do I have to explain the obvious to you? Do I have to explain to you that 2+2=4 too? My God. Are you deliberately being dumb? What is your problem? Are you a shill or a troll?
How many more times do I have to explain this to you? It's SO SIMPLE. If you are that dumb, perhaps you belong on a white trash site, not here. The flyer explains everything in clear terms. It presents the opportunities and benefits of global dating and what it can do for men. It's not the matchmaking service. Those are TWO SEPARATE THINGS dummy.
Go to the home page of this site and download the Powerpoint presentation, and read the introductory pages. They are very educational and informative, and explain the benefits of global dating like NO ONE ELSE DOES. That's a big value. How can you not see that? The Powerpoint presentation I already have on the home page is similar to what we will present.
I don't believe anyone is as dumb as you are pretending to be.
What we are doing is VERY UNIQUE and one of a kind. No one else presents it all like we do. No other sites does either. NONE. How do you not see the value in that?
Bottom line: Men need hope and solutions. We give them that. What do you give them? All you give them are boring videos in a dull monotone voice. You aren't going to help or inspire any guys who are sad or lonely in America. So why are you talking out of your a**? Geez.
We are trying to HELP people here. All you are doing is OBFUSCATING. It's like you have some evil agenda or something. Do you?
