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fschmidt wrote:But Jews also compose half the scientists and mathematicians. Why is this?
The reason the Jews can control many professions is that they use their control of the money system to infiltrate their people into everywhere else and once there they exclude others. This is why people want to get their "Jew card". Jewish "success" is the success of parasites. They don't generally make useful contributions in the long run, which is why the banking system is in a shambles and science has stopped advancing.
The Germans managed to exterminate their Jews and the modern German banking system has no Jews. The Chinese and Japanese banking systems are also Jew-free.
The monetary systems of those countries were taken over by the Jews when they and their lackeys won the war.
Just look at the crap Hollywood is putting out, if you have not figured it out yett the invention of socialism/communism is just a group of people who want to counterfeit money practice usury and heard all of us around in the process while they build their fake social order and lay claim to the world.

There is a farely credible site called Real Jew news and a Ashkenazi Jew put it together, very informative on how the Zionist machine has hyjacked Judaism and the world the last 100 years.
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Ashkenazi means people of Germany in Hebrew, most of the Jewish community are converts who just adopted Judaism for whatever reason but some Ashkenazi's do also trace their linage back over a 1000 years but still have no relation to the people who wrote the bible.
Ashkenazi means Jews who had settled in Germany- they did not stay there long, though- not the original Germanic peoples of Germany. Palestine-Italy- Germany - and then on to the Russian Empire- was the path of the diaspora. Jews have to consider a convert to Judaism a Jew, at least religiously speaking because that is the law, kind of like Arabs have to consider any Arabic speaker an Arab even you or me if we speak it well- but there were not many of those because Jews do not proselytize, and in their hearts, he will never be truly Jewish.

Now, it is true that ethnic Jewishness- Hebrew blood- ( not necessarily Judaism) is transferred through mother, it does not mean though that Jewish women marry non Jewish men just like that. Most do not.

Now, I would like to show you some photos of what real ethnic Jews look like: Yakov Sverdlov ( his family adopted a Slavic name)

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Menachem Begin

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Leon Trotsky

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Paul Michael Glaser

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Sacha Cohen

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Russian, Latvian people? No way. This is what a Russian looks like:

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This is what a Latvian looks like:

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The Jewish look is Northern Semitic, the other ones look Aryan.

Now, there are some cross-overs and some Jews that look kind of Aryan but a sharp eye of a European will pick them out. An American eye will usually not because the American mind is wired along the lines of white, black, Hispanic, etc. Latin Americans will also pick a Jew out easily, but again not North Americans. The eye is just not trained.

In America things are different as there is a lot of intermarriage and all native born citizens are called Americans, but things are not like that on the Ole' Continent.

To an American, this person is a German. But not to a German because he looks too Middle Eastern

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To a German, he is a Jude

and this is a German:

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Very blond, Aryan looking Jews exist just like there are black Jews from Ethiopia, but just like with Arabs, these are on the fringe of society- minorities. And even if they are Aryan looking to you, a real European will pick Jewish blood in them very easily by the shape of the nose, eyes, etc. Both Somalians and red haired Syrians and many blond, Euro looking Egyptians are Arabs. However, they do not represent the bulk of the Arab masses most of which look Semitic.
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Greedy people of any race will use whatever is convenient to justify their actions. This may have applied to greedy Jews using the Bible at some point in the past, but this is irrelevant today since virtually no one cares about the Bible anymore. So you can just drop this argument.

Your comment about bankers allowing the Holocaust to support Israel to get oil is almost too absurd to respond to. Zionism pre-dates the Holocaust. And there is no oil in Israel. Israel was clearly chosen as the location of a Jewish nation for historical reasons.

Jews were thrown out of so many countries simply because they refused to assimilate. If the problem was finance, then countries could have just banned Jews from finance. Most countries (historically) did the opposite and encouraged Jews to go into finance because they didn't want Christians lending with interest to Christians.

The whole issue of blood lines is irrelevant. King David and Jesus both descended from Ruth who wasn't an Israelite but was a convert. The Bible isn't racist, it is modern people who are racist.

People love conspiracy theories because it gives them an excuse to complain and do nothing. The problem with the world isn't the elite. The problem is that the average person is a lazy immoral piece of shit. Anyone really interested in improving things should start with themselves and find some moral guidelines to follow.
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Jews were thrown out of so many countries simply because they refused to assimilate...
But even if they converted to Christianity and tried to assimilate, they were still not accepted. They still called them Hebrews and non Europeans. This was the main point of Hertzl's philosophy, and this is why Zionism partly started. So many Jews wanted to be part of the European society and spoke the languages fluently, but the locals still did not accept them. There is no birth right nationality in Europe.
The whole issue of blood lines is irrelevant. King David and Jesus both descended from Ruth who wasn't an Israelite but was a convert.
It's true, but Ruth was from a neighboring ethnic group, Semitic like the Israelites. They did absorb converts back in the old days, but they were very similar to Israelites/Hebrews ethnically. So, they assimilated easily and became Hebrews. Just like Arabs assimilated Assyrians and whoever. These looked and talked almost the same.

Jews were just a bunch of Semitic tribes who gelled into one Hebrew nation based on the religion and marriage among each other. One more Semitic person like Ruth, who came later from again another Semitic tribe, and married into a Hebrew family was just par for the course.

Here is a German Nazi PSYOP film about Jewish history. It is very racist, but it still very accurately depicts Jewish origins,how and where they Jews originated, and the migration patterns from Mesopotamia to the Eastern Mediterranean and into Europe. Totally correct.

Now, the Germans were never and are not dumbed-down Beavis and Butthead people like many Americans are now. They know who is a Jude, who is a Slav, who is a German and who is a Turk. They do not call people Black or White or Hispanic.



Too bad I have to show a Nazi movie to teach Jewish history because an average American of Jewish descent thinks he is Polish or Russian.
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Hmm...my dad's a Jew, but he was pretty blonde before he went grey (same for my uncles). I really should figure out family history...

My mother is Hakka, which some people call "Jews of China," but my dad takes it a step further and claims he likes her more because she's physically different than other Chinese and descended from tribes of Israel. I don't know where he gets that from.

I dated a pretty Jewish girl in high school and her family looked a lot more obviously Jewish compared to mine. Kinda like those pictures you posted Lad. My friend is like that too with a Jew afro.
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abcdavid01 wrote:Hmm...my dad's a Jew, but he was pretty blonde before he went grey (same for my uncles). I really should figure out family history...
The problem is that if you start doing it the American way- "what country my people came from"- it is not accurate. Jews all come from the Middle East and Gypsies come from India. Just because they spent some centuries in Europe does not change thier origin ( there). Also, ethnic boundaries and political boundaries do not coincide in the Old World. Northern Romania is Hungarian ethnically. Eastern Ukraine is Russian ethnically. And in Europe, your ethnic nationality takes priority over your political citizenship. Tesla is from Croatia but he is a Serb and will always be one.
My mother is Hakka, which some people call "Jews of China," but my dad takes it a step further and claims he likes her more because she's physically different than other Chinese and descended from tribes of Israel. I don't know where he gets that from.

I dated a pretty Jewish girl in high school and her family looked a lot more obviously Jewish compared to mine. Kinda like those pictures you posted Lad. My friend is like that too with a Jew afro.
A Jew can be blonde because of some intermarriage. But he still stands out among the native Euros. To give you a rough analogy, here in OH, there are many people whose skin is very white but you can see African features in them. They are called Blacks in America. Now, a native Nigerian would not call them Black, but people here do. So, they belong to the African American community.

There is a one drop rule in America. In Europe, it is a 25% rule for Jews. And its the same with Zionists. 25% Jewish is Jewish. A half Jewish is still Jewish to Euros, blond or not. They look at the shape of the lips, the nose, the curl of the hair, etc and they pick you out a mile away. Bang! They know immediately. But not an average American. The eyes are just not wired to pick that out.

In case of China, the Mongoloid race is so strong that these Jewish feauters get wiped out. But those Chinese Jews are a small minority. There are also Arabs in Saudi who look Chinese. A tiny percentage in the Semitic sea of faces.

The reason the Arabs are so up in arms and always protesting and calling Jews invaders is because when they saw all these half breeds coming from Europe, they called them Europeans, because to them, the Euro half stood out while to the Euros, the Jewish half stood out.
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ladislav wrote:It's true, but Ruth was from a neighboring ethnic group, Semitic like the Israelites. They did absorb converts back in the old days, but they were very similar to Israelites/Hebrews ethnically. So, they assimilated easily and became Hebrews. Just like Arabs assimilated Assyrians and whoever. These looked and talked almost the same.
ladislav, you are missing the point. The Bible never talks about how people look or talk. Israel strongly rejected its neighbors because of their religion and (lack of) morals. Ruth happened to come from a neighboring group because they didn't have international flights back then. But it would have made no difference if Ruth had been Chinese or Nigerian. The focus of the Bible is religion and morality, not race.

It's true that primitive people are obsessed with irrelevant differences in appearance and behavior, and so often tend to be racist. Hitler was a racist and many members of this forum are racists. The Bible teaches that race doesn't matter. Islam also teaches this.

For its many faults, one thing that liberalism has right is rejecting racism. Islam also has this right. Rejecting racism allows a group to grow and to attract all people willing to live according the standards of the group. This isn't at all the same as multiculturalism. Discriminating by culture makes perfect sense but discriminating by race makes no sense.
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Race doesn't matter in what? It's relevant in intelligence distribution maybe, but intelligence isn't morality. There are also those who would argue that culture is near inextricable from race.
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fschmidt wrote:
ladislav wrote:It's true, but Ruth was from a neighboring ethnic group, Semitic like the Israelites. They did absorb converts back in the old days, but they were very similar to Israelites/Hebrews ethnically. So, they assimilated easily and became Hebrews. Just like Arabs assimilated Assyrians and whoever. These looked and talked almost the same.
ladislav, you are missing the point. The Bible never talks about how people look or talk. Israel strongly rejected its neighbors because of their religion and (lack of) morals. Ruth happened to come from a neighboring group because they didn't have international flights back then. But it would have made no difference if Ruth had been Chinese or Nigerian. The focus of the Bible is religion and morality, not race.

It's true that primitive people are obsessed with irrelevant differences in appearance and behavior, and so often tend to be racist. Hitler was a racist and many members of this forum are racists. The Bible teaches that race doesn't matter. Islam also teaches this.

For its many faults, one thing that liberalism has right is rejecting racism. Islam also has this right. Rejecting racism allows a group to grow and to attract all people willing to live according the standards of the group. This isn't at all the same as multiculturalism. Discriminating by culture makes perfect sense but discriminating by race makes no sense.
Well, most European society and a huge ex Soviet mass- almost a billion people altogether officially declares the Jews to be a separate ethnic group and a nationality and identify them as such in documents, etc. Primitive people? Hmm. Yeah, I tend to agree although they have armies and gov't buildings and schools etc.

Islam and Arab culture is good in many aspects, too. Everyone who speaks Arabic is an Arab and everyone who accepts Islam is a Muslim regardless of ancestry. It was when they adopted European nationalism, all things went wrong.

Don't know about the Bible, though. Most pogroms in Europe were done by Bible-flipping Christians. And in the US, the most advanced nation on Earth, a nasty racial system was created. Were these people primitive or just evil? But most of all, there were no passages in the Bible that forbade racism. In the Koran it clearly states that there is no difference between an Arab and a non Arab and a black man or a white man.
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Even is there is a correlation between race and intelligence or morality, the difference isn't big enough to matter. The smartest 10% of the dumbest race is certainly smarter than the dumbest 10% of the smartest race. This can't be said for the difference between humans and other species because the difference there is much bigger. The point of this is that instead of worrying about race, a group should try to attract the most moral and intelligent people from every race.

The same applies to culture versus race. Judge people on how they behave, not on their looks or race. Note how as American culture has declined, ghetto culture has spread to all races in America.
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fschmidt wrote:Greedy people of any race will use whatever is convenient to justify their actions. This may have applied to greedy Jews using the Bible at some point in the past, but this is irrelevant today since virtually no one cares about the Bible anymore. So you can just drop this argument.

Your comment about bankers allowing the Holocaust to support Israel to get oil is almost too absurd to respond to. Zionism pre-dates the Holocaust. And there is no oil in Israel. Israel was clearly chosen as the location of a Jewish nation for historical reasons.

Jews were thrown out of so many countries simply because they refused to assimilate. If the problem was finance, then countries could have just banned Jews from finance. Most countries (historically) did the opposite and encouraged Jews to go into finance because they didn't want Christians lending with interest to Christians.

The whole issue of blood lines is irrelevant. King David and Jesus both descended from Ruth who wasn't an Israelite but was a convert. The Bible isn't racist, it is modern people who are racist.

All I did was watch the movie money as debt about eight years ago and after seeing how the financial system worked I realized not to believe a dam thing our ruler's say and also realized they are very gifted liar's period from top to bottom about everything.
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Jews are always preaching non-racism to other people as it allows their racist agenda to win by default. Society becomes like a game of football between two teams where one team has better and stronger players but doesn't use teamwork, has been brainwashed to believe teamwork is immoral and doesn't realize they are in an adversarial contest. So of course the other team, i.e. the Jews, will always win until they get a clue. This is another reason why Jews are able to control many professions.
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ladislav, I didn't say that only primitive people are racist. Hitler certainly wasn't primitive, he was just wrong. I just meant that primitive people are more likely to be racist.

As I said, Jews largely made themselves be treated as a separate group by refusing to assimilate through intermarriage. This is the source of the conflict between Jews and Europeans.

Christians are rarely Bible-flipping. In fact Christians are overwhelming ignorant about the Bible, and that includes their own New Testament.

The Bible doesn't talk about racism because it wasn't an issue. But the Bible talks at length about morality. Anyone who takes the Bible seriously would focus on what the Bible focuses on over what the Bible ignores. The Bible has many examples of intermarriage between Israelites and other groups, Moses being a prime example. So the idea of racial purity, including the current Jewish rules, conflicts with the examples in the Bible.
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fschmidt wrote:Even is there is a correlation between race and intelligence or morality, the difference isn't big enough to matter. The smartest 10% of the dumbest race is certainly smarter than the dumbest 10% of the smartest race. This can't be said for the difference between humans and other species because the difference there is much bigger. The point of this is that instead of worrying about race, a group should try to attract the most moral and intelligent people from every race.

The same applies to culture versus race. Judge people on how they behave, not on their looks or race. Note how as American culture has declined, ghetto culture has spread to all races in America.
That's true fschmidt. Yet people are bound to make generalizations. Not that there's much wrong with prejudice, but it's important to keep an open mind because it's possible to run into exceptions.

From my own experience though...my parents are both very intelligent. My mom's about as smart as a woman can be expected to be (my opinion is low on that metric though). They're both American, but I think cultural differences create a huge rift between them and is most of what weakens their marriage. It's like they both resent each other for not assimilating. They would have had a greater chance of marrying someone with similar cultural values by looking in their own race.

Plus I've heard being mixed race can make it harder for things like blood transfusions or organ donations, etc. Probably other problems I don't know of. I don't worry about it too much, but I'd hardly want to condemn any progeny. It's my burden I suppose...
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Using the bible as credible history is complete BS in my book and some of the people practicing Judaism figured out long ago control the money and you control the world.

Any narrative that does not fall in line with how the money and economics works is complete BS as well, the money system runs the whole gig and when you follow it the story the money trail is telling is we are being seriously lied to in the mainstream on all fronts including religion.

I am falling back on this, a small group of people figured out long ago that if they could counterfeit the money and not be audited they could rule the world and everything else inbetween is filler.
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