My Thread on Chinese Women and China

[yick]

Oh yeah, people have different triggers, but part of culture shock is trying to dampen the triggers, things are different here, things that never happen back home happen here.

Most things don't annoy me, I don't care about the spitting, the pollution, the traffic and lack of road management, the pushing and shoving, the slurping - most things I can just brush off - and even with the 'herrrrrrrrrro' I just tell them to 'f**k off' and then move on. I wouldn't stand there and get into a twenty minute row over it. But I remember those first two years were really really hard, but you have to adapt - as you know yourself.

I think with that article, with some people - it takes YEARS. It took that guy four years of being angry but sooner or later - like you said - you live with the Masai long enough, you are going to do a raindance in a loincloth and not feel a twat about it. You nailed it right there actually.

[Eric]

I was sitting in a restaurant called "Uncle Sam's" yesterday...go figure - and it was by a large window. I was the only one in the restaurant, because it was so damned expensive - which I figured out. But then just like a zoo exhibit, three old Chinese plopped right across the street from me and were just staring at me, all of them pointing and smiling as if I weren't human, trying to just enjoy my lunch. I felt it was very rude. Then a mother with a child walked by, I caught the eye of the little girl - and then it was as if a circus. I expressed irritation and tried to double down and eat my meal, but I looked up and the Mom was waving at me, like the girl was - so I waived back. They left.
It's like this.

feel that there were envious hateful eyes watching me at all times. Hateful eyes of men especially who just wanted inside to rob, kill me, and take everything that I had. I also felt the females that hadn't sold their soul .....were very sour towards me in their attitude.

Jesus you really are a nut, seriously, stop blaming the external stimuli and go back to a lonely suburb dude. For some guys it really is too late to leave the west, the brain rotting has done too much damage already.

What the f*k do you really want exactly? can you answer this to yourself?
Maybe cdnfa has some spare room for you in his basement, you will find peace in there. That's the solution for you. But then you'd start posting about how annoyed you are at his constant mouse-clicking and so on

There are loads of great Chinese girls here, if they don't float whatever boat you have

There's no boat to float in there

Jesus. You really should shut the f**k up. You aren't that bright are you....don't answer that. You sound like a retard to me. Dont come on and contribute nothing helpful to my thread - part of which is an adjustment and me venting some feelings that I have.

Shut the f**k up. go sit in a corner or something. You jealous, butthurt individual. Always a retard in these postings. If it's not Tapatio...

[droid]

If you don't want opinions don't vent on a public forum, you're just confirming what I'm saying.
Snap out of it, you make your life miserable all by yourself. Try acupuncture or something while you're over there.

[Ghost]

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[Adama]

I was sitting in a restaurant called "Uncle Sam's" yesterday...go figure - and it was by a large window. I was the only one in the restaurant, because it was so damned expensive - which I figured out. But then just like a zoo exhibit, three old Chinese plopped right across the street from me and were just staring at me, all of them pointing and smiling as if I weren't human, trying to just enjoy my lunch. I felt it was very rude. Then a mother with a child walked by, I caught the eye of the little girl - and then it was as if a circus. I expressed irritation and tried to double down and eat my meal, but I looked up and the Mom was waving at me, like the girl was - so I waived back. They left.
It's like this.

Eric, are you are good looking guy? If you are better than average looking + not Asian, then you are going to get stared at. They were waving? That sounds like a happy moment, not a negative one. If this is true, just think of yourself as a popular stranger. You're going to have people say hello and wave hi to you just because they notice you're a foreigner. That is not necessarily a bad thing. That can be a very good thing. In fact, you might be a miniature celebrity. In other words, they might like you. Don't let it go to your head.

My suggestion is that you either accept it and be polite, or when you notice those signs that annoy you, IGNORE THEM, and remember that you can't control people's actions.

More than likely though, you've misunderstood their motivations for their actions.

[yick]

You're a blue pill p***y

And you're a p***y full stop.

Ghost: wah wah wah - the Chinese won't date me, Filipinas are subhuman waaaaaaaaaah

if you think shengnu are some kind of prize.

A lot of them certainly are, you think you would be doing some beautiful female doctor a favour because she is 28...
your reality is not one that most people live in... these are the facts, you wouldn't get most shengnu.

if you go for the leftovers according to the illogical, unreasonable standards of Chinese men

Fixed it for you Ghost.

So - you want to compete for women with men who have more money, have more connections, are more in line to be accepted by the girls family, speak the language, better looking, wash regularly - yeah, good luck with that Ghost.

hideous and obese women can pull male model looking types

That's not true, Ghost, stop using hyperbole - it ruins whatever argument you have.

It's not inevitable, and it's usually the result of a slow grinding down of the man, a woman going in for the kill (marriage), and accepting mediocrity and life failure. There are certainly some wonderful exceptions, but a lot end up as lifers because of their choices and a lack of will or options for getting out. So you don't have to end up a lifer where ever you go, but it can be hard to avoid if you stay long enough and don't have something going on beyond your life in that country.

It is inevitable because one day you get old and you want to settle - even if it is 13 floors up in a condo in Bangkok, and then you die, yes, running around the world is great in your 20's, 30's and 40's but one day - you get to an age where you start looking for a comfy spot. That will be you one day, you wait and see.

I'm not looking for or expecting a 10 (except for p4p.)

You can't afford them.

I consider wife material to end at at 7s.

Are you a seven yourself? Ermmmmmmmmmmmmprobablynot...

(Although I don't personally use the number rating scale. I can't help myself and use it all the time because I am a douche)

Fixed that for you Ghost - what are you on the scale 1-10?

Looks for a man shouldn't matter, and in sane societies they don't. Women in China are gaining more "liberation" and so are getting to be choosier in looks now. No wonder that as a result, there are more leftovers.

No, the reason there are more 'leftovers' is because women will not put up with the bullying hierachy of in-laws and husbands who will beat them and cheat on them with KTV whores - a lot of women, women who have shite going on for them, don't want the drama - so they are opting out. Chinese women are a lot more forgiving on a lack of looks (except when it comes to westerners) than probably any nationality of woman on the planet - which is you see what you see when you see couples walking around anytown China.

I'm far from alone in finding it hard and weird here. You only find it easy because you go for leftovers.

Have you ever thought about washing, grooming, buying clothes that suit you, exercising, keeping up with your Chinese, losing weight... all those proactive things, and you might become something of a catch - just a thought.

[Eric]

This forum is hopeless - since people can't get over bickering and arguing pointlessly with themselves, I swear I am sick of it.
There is no hope for humanity. ... I feel like, I, either I'm insane, or people have lost touch with themselves and reality. I don't think I am insane. I just read a lot of Bible Old Testament and hold onto a deeper knowledge/wisdom of the world....
so I seem out of place by comparison.

It's weird but, that's what I think is happening. People also, can't handle sadness or a regular emotion, they have to be happy all of the time; people are addicted to the feel-good high, they can't sit with themselves - I am mainly talking about westerners I see. It's frustrating and exhausting, being misunderstood and feeling alone.....Its strange that he who has wisdom, should be so out of place in comparison with a modern world who's lost it totally almost.
I feel like people have lost a deeper layer of themselves.

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

1: The staring thing. You keep bring it up. People have explained it to you. If you lived in an outport 20 years ago in Newfoundland and saw some Chinese or black dude walking around you would look. You might not be as obvious about it, cultural filters and all but you would look. You are a curiosity. That doesn't mean they have any ill will towards you. If you knew the language better you could probably use that novelty factor to your advantage.

2: Related to 1. You have anger issues. I doubt anywhere you go will make you happy. I don't mean to be a dick or to put you down when I say this but I remember posting a story about the guard who asks visitors what their home town is like before describing his city because he figures they will see his people the same as their own. You seem prone to outbursts even when people are trying to help you. You seem to have carried all of your issues from the US to China.

3: China might not be the place for you. Based on complaints you made about the US I figured it wouldn't work out well. I am shocked that the complaints IIRC started almost as soon as you landed. Most people get some sort of honeymoon phase.

4: I've known 2 Chinese girls well. One fresh off the boat HK about 25 years ago and one PRC in Canada but still fully Chinese in attitude.
Both of them are not materialistic at all. The HK girl [and their rep is as bad if not worse as Shanghai what’s the term Green Tea Bitches?] always dressed simply and still does, would have been quite happy with my ass even though I am not a go getter if only I had asked her out. The other, she is nearly broke from legal issues, refuses strongly almost every offer I make to pay, and when she caves I have to make a strong argument and just force the issue, doesn't like gifts, doesn't want me to do anything for her birthday when I suggested I spoil her.
Now I am not going to say you are wrong and I am right. Unlike some people here I understand that people run in different circles and in my case the sample size is pretty low. Also your complaints seem pretty common among those in China.
My point is that in any population there are exceptions. One person with years in the Phillippines believes that 3% of them are not retarded greedy little scam artists. I'd guess the ration of decent to horrible in China is better than that.
You just need a way to meet lots of girls and filter the good from the bad quickly. How to do that. I haven't the foggiest, but then I am not in the position to have to figure it out. Granted without language skills, it is not easy. One can say that for anywhere really.



I have to admit, someone who claims to only see one hottie in the UK a week calling someone else out on hyperbole is pretty f***ing funny.
People often see only what they want to see. Ditto for those who say they *only* see land whales in the US. I guess when I go south of the border they let all the hotties out of their cells I've also never been shot at by a police killing gangsta with an AK-47 either.

Plenty of hotties around at least among the 15 to 30 set. Plenty of mehs running around Chinatown.

[yick]

And you f**k p***y full stop.


Fixed that for you.

You are f***ing a working Filipina? So f***ing what?

It's like bragging about owning a radio and TV in your house. Who couldn't go to the Philippines tomorrow and be sexually active a week
after stepping off the plane? Hardly a big deal (though I image it is to you).

Don't confuse observations with whining, you twat.

You must be the biggest, moaning, whining p***y here.

That's just as well because I don't want them either. A woman is not valuable for her schooling or "career." A woman is valuable for her femininity, youth, and fertility. Or perhaps in good feminist fashion, you're butthurt because you can't undo millions of years of male evolution.

Have you thought what makes YOU valuable? I remember your laughable thread about taking on shengnu's as doing something of a favour, you have NOTHING to offer them at all, you can't speak their language, have no interest in their culture, you are already dating someone, you need a haircut, you are a slob of a man - and you wonder you have to get a plane to the Philippines when you are already in China, in a country with 850 million women.

It's not hyperbole. I've seen it many times.

It is complete and utter hyperbole - obese women MIGHT get normal looking guys of normal weight and looks but they DON'T get male models. I have never seen that in my life - but I am sure an exception or two exists.

Wanting to settle is not the same as getting stuck as a lifer. Anyway, way ahead of you, Jack. I'm already looking for a place and a way to settle down and start putting down some roots.

You'll end up as a life far before I will - why? There's going to be a BIG Filipino family to support - you'll be paying out for all their little business schemes, schooling etc etc etc.

Ghost: Oh no, I won't do that blahblahblah

And then your missus will THROW BACK IN YOUR FACE the time you stopped her going to the states and how she could have been an millionairess if she hadn't listened to you - you are the biggest chump here - everyone can see it coming but you can't.

Ghost: 'Waaaaaaaaaaaaah - we had a pregnancy scare waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - the matrix is going to trap me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah'

Well stop having unprotected sex with her you f***ing idiot.

Sure I can

They wouldn't f**k you anyway, and the 10's who work in industry are not going to f**k some smelly foreigner - no, they are not. It's you living in a little dreamworld.

I don't use it personally. Are you retarded? Sorry, I should have asked: how retarded are you?

You use it ALL THE TIME - hence my post.

Ghost: 'I don't use the rating system but only go for sevens in a wife'

If I went through your posting history, I could find a 150 posts with you rating someone or something. You went and rated your wife prospects in that very posts, you cretin.

In terms of numbers, f**k that, don't know. I'm an ugly f***er and make no bones about it.

Well, MIGHT this be a factor on why you are unsuccessful in China, and others might not be. I am just saying, your experiences aren't universal.

No, there are leftovers because women are picky and stupid,

There you go - you have loads in common with them already.

You sound like a bitch.

Whereas you ARE a bitch. I know this, and I know why you are failing left right and centre.

Have you ever thought about not being such a moronic twat?

It is no point reflecting your inner self and failures onto me, I am not the one with a problem in a country with 850 million women.

None of it is your fault, won't learn Chinese, won't wash, won't go out and buy decent clothes and stop being a scruff. What do you want anyone to do about it?

I have to admit, someone who claims to only see one hottie in the UK a week calling someone else out on hyperbole is pretty f***ing funny.

You have never been to the UK, what you think again is... immaterial.

One hottie a week, and that's me being generous.

[Ghost]

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[Eric]

1: The staring thing. You keep bring it up. People have explained it to you. If you lived in an outport 20 years ago in Newfoundland and saw some Chinese or black dude walking around you would look. You might not be as obvious about it, cultural filters and all but you would look. You are a curiosity. That doesn't mean they have any ill will towards you. If you knew the language better you could probably use that novelty factor to your advantage.

2: Related to 1. You have anger issues. I doubt anywhere you go will make you happy. I don't mean to be a dick or to put you down when I say this but I remember posting a story about the guard who asks visitors what their home town is like before describing his city because he figures they will see his people the same as their own. You seem prone to outbursts even when people are trying to help you. You seem to have carried all of your issues from the US to China.

3: China might not be the place for you. Based on complaints you made about the US I figured it wouldn't work out well. I am shocked that the complaints IIRC started almost as soon as you landed. Most people get some sort of honeymoon phase.

4: I've known 2 Chinese girls well. One fresh off the boat HK about 25 years ago and one PRC in Canada but still fully Chinese in attitude.
Both of them are not materialistic at all. The HK girl [and their rep is as bad if not worse as Shanghai what’s the term Green Tea Bitches?] always dressed simply and still does, would have been quite happy with my a** even though I am not a go getter if only I had asked her out. The other, she is nearly broke from legal issues, refuses strongly almost every offer I make to pay, and when she caves I have to make a strong argument and just force the issue, doesn't like gifts, doesn't want me to do anything for her birthday when I suggested I spoil her.
Now I am not going to say you are wrong and I am right. Unlike some people here I understand that people run in different circles and in my case the sample size is pretty low. Also your complaints seem pretty common among those in China.
My point is that in any population there are exceptions. One person with years in the Phillippines believes that 3% of them are not retarded greedy little scam artists. I'd guess the ration of decent to horrible in China is better than that.
You just need a way to meet lots of girls and filter the good from the bad quickly. How to do that. I haven't the foggiest, but then I am not in the position to have to figure it out. Granted without language skills, it is not easy. One can say that for anywhere really.



I have to admit, someone who claims to only see one hottie in the UK a week calling someone else out on hyperbole is pretty f***ing funny.
People often see only what they want to see. Ditto for those who say they *only* see land whales in the US. I guess when I go south of the border they let all the hotties out of their cells I've also never been shot at by a police killing gangsta with an AK-47 either.

Plenty of hotties around at least among the 15 to 30 set. Plenty of mehs running around Chinatown.

First, Adama. I am a decent to good looking guy. You'd never know it because the lack of play that I get in life - but it's true.

cdn. Yes, I'm angry. I'm half Irish - give me a break. I also seem to be lacking this human quality that easily lets humans bond with each other, it's always been tough for me. I don't know why - I try, but I'm challenged in this department. I try and try but to no avail. I always have it in my head how I'm going to go, but when I go outside - and encounter people's faces, their prejudices and innate hostilities...their strange behaviors, ambivalent convoluted signals that often times make no sense - or seem to challenge me, even when I'm trying to be nice. It all goes out the window. .... and I'm left playing a game of - surviving on the turf/ blending as best I can, adapting. People are all different, they confuse me as I'm left trying to adapt to each one I meet. It seems like when I find this new way to be - I'm great. Until I meet someone which is ALL THE TIME, who I get a bad reaction with....or what I feel is a bad reaction. Life is confusing.
It's not fun, it's not enjoyable. I get this sense it's not like this for most people. I don't know what I'm doing wrong - or, what's wrong with me?
People have often verbalized it to me like this - "You think too much"
of course, this doesn't help and doesn't really describe anything. I've always felt it is a symptom of a problem rather than the problem itself - but people don't understand or get it, and I don't expect them to.

It seems to me that, most people don't think at all - maybe that's the secret, they just kind of go and blend like a fish with whatever comes their way. I don't know - it's the only thing I can think of, that makes sense.


I keep struggling with maybe it's a belief I'm holding somewhere, something. If I could just get that out the way, I'd be fine. But, I don't know...
It often seems I need to figure something out in my head somehow, have an axiom to hold onto. Then I'll be okay. Problem is, life doesn't work like that.


I don't know what to do. I've tried everything..

[yick]

She's quite a good catch, and we have a great connection. She chose me over several other guys who wanted her. I know you have no idea about higher quality women because you prefer leftovers, so I'll spare trying to explain it to your puny mind.

You went to the Philippines to get a woman. ANYONE can do that - don't make out you had a challenge there. Because you didn't.

It takes you a WEEK in Philippines? Son, you're just doing it wrong.

See what I mean... I have never been to the Philippines to be honest... I mean... there has been no need up until now.

You're the dumbest motherf***er on this forum if you think that.

Ghost 'Waaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!'

That's you - whinge, whine, moan and cry, you big f***ing baby.

Men are the prize

You are NOT a prize, do you still wear that dirty kaftan?

Have you cut your hair yet?

Had a wash.

I am sure men who have grooming, style and wash regulary are something of a catch, yet.

This isn't even uncommon in the West these days. I see fat girls with attractive guys all the time.

You might see overweight women with normal to above average men - what you don't see is:

'Obese women with male model types'

Glad we can agree at last.

No, my girlfriend makes decent money and takes care of all her responsibilities herself. I even offered to help her out during a hard month and she wouldn't accept it.

And then when the ring is on the finger, you'll be paying out, you wait and see - it won't be your dumbass fault - it will be hers and the matrix - you thick gullible cunt.

It's possible, but then any foreign woman could say this to the foreigner boyfriend she is with. Including you.

It would never happen to me because I would just let her go. She has something on you to use as a weapon if you get hitched, you wait and see.

But it's the best kind.

You'll be a dad sooner than you think and you will blame the matrix - because - you are a f***ing dumbass.

You are.

At least you admit it.

This is why the number scale isn't that useful. Instead of being a semi-objective model, it just serves as a way for idiot dudebros to one-up each other.

Which is why you use it, go back through your posting history.

I use it in conversation with others

Then you use it then DON'T YOU?

And you call me dumb - f**k me - a cretin, a crybaby and needs a wash - what do you have going for you again?

You are a manginal bitch, and you'll gladly cuck yourself by taking shengnu seriously.

Some shengnu are great man - I think your hatred for them comes from some repressed homoseuxuality - something you and Tapitito89 share in common.

And yet you've had no sex in the past four years.

I have a low sex drive. Which is why - when I become a father - I won't be blaming the matrix - I'll be ready.

I don't have a problem with women like a lot of the forum - I have to say this, life these past few years has been about making the best of myself. Something you could do with...

You could take time out to be learning a language, grooming, washing yourself, buy decent clothes - all that kind of thing you dirty scruff.

I speak a little Chinese and take lessons to learn more, and shower, and get haircuts,

I know you don't, I know you have no dress sense, you don't wash - one day - a smart guy like you is going to work out how I know all this.

My clothes are fine

They're NOT - get rid of that kaftan - you dirty scruff.

Mangina fag boys

Which is what Ghost calls anyone who washes regularly.

[Eric]

Please take the goddamn stupid arguing OFF my thread.

[yick]

Please take the goddamn stupid arguing OFF my thread.

f**k off

Are you SERIOUSLY complaining about people arguing on about a thread about you complaining?

You are doing something even more pointless than what we are doing!