I hope this is what happens, but the problem is almost all men want to marry and put-up with women's sh!t. Even many guys who've been raped in the family court want to marry again, and they think they'll choose better than last time around - I doubt it. The state is supporting women and it will always be around in some form, so men are screwed in the Western world. I agree,moving to some poor country sounds good, but does not work out for almost all guys.Ghost wrote:Well, well, this has been one of the more chipper discussions on virginity. I see the highlights of hopelessness when it comes to looking for it. Of course, in the West, virginity is f***ed whenever it appears. (Pun intended.) I used to think that I would somehow escape to a traditional place, find a traditional, virgin woman, and find a way to stay there and have a family with her.
What a delusion. Truth is painful, gut-wrenching, spirit-killing, but it is still true. What traditional countries or societies was I planning on? The ones which have heavy p4p scenes? The ones where lying is OK so that guys will marry non-virgins? The ones that have been turned into Westernized, consumerist, promiscuous, human meat grinders? East met West and then the mirror shattered after the revelation.
Which is why I gave up. I began to consider the wider picture: there are men who can get virgins without commitment. Why the hell would I commit then? We've long seen that it is foolish to marry (and thereby support) a promiscuous woman because, after all, why pay for something that the woman gave away for free (and probably many times)? But! There is another level past that. Why marry a virgin when there are men who can get virgins without having to commit? In some ways, that pained me even more to think of - a virgin woman looking hypergamously into the eyes of the guy, as he takes freely what beta-schlubs have to pay for, who just happened to have been born with the right genes, looks, and perhaps money and status. If some men can get virgins for free (and who, then, presumably could f**k my theoretical wife without difficulty) then why should I ever even agree to marry at all?
Anyway, I just dream of being promiscuous. That's my only destiny now, along with avoiding being taken advantage of by either the deceitful women or the virginity stealing alpha men, which is the easier part.
More's the pity - for them. Men like me are increasingly dropping out. We won't be there to clean up their messes or solve their problems which have arisen from dismantling 'the way things should be.' Western women are already starting to find this out the hard way. All the others will too.
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I wouldn't say that's the only option available. Hedonism might be on the rise but that's only because there aren't any large movements capable of combating it.Ghost wrote:It is either delve into hedonism or have nothing.
I would choose having nothing over the option of settling. If it means remaining alone and never having a relationship in my life then that is what I would choose to accept. Pride and honor are important to me so I wouldn't want to regret anything, and having my first real relationship with a girl that f***ed another guy (especially some thug) because it would totally shatter my pride and make me less than a man. That is why I wouldn't ever conform to pop-culture or accept leftovers. By Feminist standards I would be a "misogynist." I would rather be called a misogynist and go to extreme lengths than be less than a man.
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I've been called a misogynist before...by my sister, the Feminist. What's your opinion on born again virgins?Tsar wrote:I wouldn't say that's the only option available. Hedonism might be on the rise but that's only because there aren't any large movements capable of combating it.Ghost wrote:It is either delve into hedonism or have nothing.
I would choose having nothing over the option of settling. If it means remaining alone and never having a relationship in my life then that is what I would choose to accept. Pride and honor are important to me so I wouldn't want to regret anything, and having my first real relationship with a girl that f***ed another guy (especially some thug) because it would totally shatter my pride and make me less than a man. That is why I wouldn't ever conform to pop-culture or accept leftovers. By Feminist standards I would be a "misogynist." I would rather be called a misogynist and go to extreme lengths than be less than a man.
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My opinion is there is no such thing as a born again virgin. They might abstain from sex but that doesn't make them a virgin.abcdavid01 wrote:I've been called a misogynist before...by my sister, the Feminist. What's your opinion on born again virgins?Tsar wrote:I wouldn't say that's the only option available. Hedonism might be on the rise but that's only because there aren't any large movements capable of combating it.Ghost wrote:It is either delve into hedonism or have nothing.
I would choose having nothing over the option of settling. If it means remaining alone and never having a relationship in my life then that is what I would choose to accept. Pride and honor are important to me so I wouldn't want to regret anything, and having my first real relationship with a girl that f***ed another guy (especially some thug) because it would totally shatter my pride and make me less than a man. That is why I wouldn't ever conform to pop-culture or accept leftovers. By Feminist standards I would be a "misogynist." I would rather be called a misogynist and go to extreme lengths than be less than a man.
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Why is she with you if she doesn't want to be there, isn't interested, etc? Or is this p4p?ladislav wrote:I have done that for a number of years ( if not decades) and yes, great memories, but also had my heart broken many times because you still want to fall in love and even promiscous women want to fall in love- we are just wired for that- and you can't love because you are so free. Also, after 44 or so, your libido starts going down, you start having problems keeping it up and then one day you wake up with a viagra hard on, another piece of meat by your side who does not want to be with you and is just texting her friends. She is watching the TV while u bang her because she does not love you and is not even interested in you as a friend- she just does not talk to you. Great fun for the body.
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http://www.mileanhour.com/post/VagFAX.aspxTsar wrote:Polygraph (Lie Detector). It's the only way to really know for sure.Renata wrote:How will you know you're not getting a bride that has had Hymen-repair? Cosmetic surgery to make it all in-tact again. Can a girl's virginity be verified as 'natural' virginity? By a GP or someone?
http://www.enochmagazine.com/articles/g ... est-bidder:
She already has undergone a lie detector test and medical examinations to prove that she is not lying and is truly a virgin.
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In America if you post a statement saying you would only be in a relationship with a virgin this is the attack that men are slammed with by the Feminists, manginas, and most AW.
This is one such reply that was given on a message board in response to a statement saying "I will only be in a relationship with a virgin."
The Feminists and brainwashed WW don't realize that it has nothing to do with the hymen, it has to do with sexual activity so once again their logic is wrong. Hymen reconstruction surgeries means the presence of one doesn't indicate virginity. Anyone with some medical knowledge on female anatomy knows that a lack of a hymen doesn't mean she isn't a virgin.
This is one such reply that was given on a message board in response to a statement saying "I will only be in a relationship with a virgin."
It's a diversion tactic so they don't have to understand that sluts aren't relationship quality women and because they don't want to come to terms that virgins will always be in higher demand than "used goods." It's also a shaming tactic they use to attempt to make men feel they are in the wrong. In any case, it just goes to show you how distorted things are in the West, especially the Anglo Sphere.I have a problem with people who think the condition of a woman's hymen is more important than the content of her character--or that the condition of her hymen *is* the content of her character. If your main concern when you're thinking about getting married is "she's a virgin" you're a misogynistic idiot.
The Feminists and brainwashed WW don't realize that it has nothing to do with the hymen, it has to do with sexual activity so once again their logic is wrong. Hymen reconstruction surgeries means the presence of one doesn't indicate virginity. Anyone with some medical knowledge on female anatomy knows that a lack of a hymen doesn't mean she isn't a virgin.
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Heard on NPR a report about the "disturbing new trend" of slut shaming as if that isn't how it's been for most cultures in most of human history. You know those crazy slut walk things? If you tell a woman she's more likely to be raped by dressing like a slut then you're sexist. But yeah, it'll end. That slut shaming is happening means Feminism is losing. It has no place left to go anyway. I keep saying, the fourth wave of Feminism will be on the defensive.
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