Are American Women Obsessed with Eugenics?

[Cornfed]

Yeah but a lot of women also hook up with criminals, bad boys, and other degenerates with mood disorders etc.. because they are alphas.

They are not actually alphas in the zoological sense, it is just that they are the sort of scum the PTB want females to breed with.

[Moretorque]

Exactly...would you want a woman with a history of dwarfism or tay sachs genes?

What is wrong with women caring about eugenics? it is the most important feature of biological survival. Tall manly men simply have more desirable genes....

the point is YES. if you are a short male, then your genes will cause future generations to be shorter. This shortness will lend them a disadvantage in their own dating pool. Thus this could be seen as contamination, as you are introducing a set of genes that will give their own offspring a disadvantage in mate selection. This is detrimental to future generations.

Yes, but this only serves as a social function. Being tall and manly does not guarantee survival in today's world. Was it useful thousands of years ago? Sure. Today it's simply trendy (much like being white is).

The eugenics that exists today is much like Nazi eugenics. It is exclusion based on racism/heightism/classism for no tangible reason. It's basically just a lot of people doing what they are told without understanding why they're doing it.

I'm a short guy. Has this limited my dating pool? Possibly, but I have dated pretty girls that were much taller than me. If anything, my dating pool was limited in the US because of my desire to not be a p***y and not be controlled by my girlfriends.

Luckily, in this world, intelligence is what actually provides one with advantages in life (as opposed to the perceived advantages of the other traits). Thus, any person that does not fit the eugenic mold for whatever reason (be it race, height, social status, looks, or job/education) can be the ones to truly prosper with intelligence.

That is not true, today intelligence will probably send you to a FEMA camp here in America if you are lucky, anybody who ?'s the social order is an enemy of the credit monopoly in the socialist dream state.

Your hole post is pretty much hog wash, today it's about how well you can chase Dee ball in the coliseum and tall and athletic is where it's at for the modern day gladiator image.

Daa black man can chase Dee ball like no otder human being so he be desirable in todays phony promise land of nonsense as far as image put forth by daa state.

[Moretorque]

Yeah but a lot of women also hook up with criminals, bad boys, and other degenerates with mood disorders etc.. because they are alphas.

They are not actually alphas in the zoological sense, it is just that they are the sort of scum the PTB want females to breed with.

Obviously Cornfed you believe the" Learned Elders of Zion" are authentic?

[Maverick]

Exactly...would you want a woman with a history of dwarfism or tay sachs genes?

What is wrong with women caring about eugenics? it is the most important feature of biological survival. Tall manly men simply have more desirable genes....

the point is YES. if you are a short male, then your genes will cause future generations to be shorter. This shortness will lend them a disadvantage in their own dating pool. Thus this could be seen as contamination, as you are introducing a set of genes that will give their own offspring a disadvantage in mate selection. This is detrimental to future generations.

Yes, but this only serves as a social function. Being tall and manly does not guarantee survival in today's world. Was it useful thousands of years ago? Sure. Today it's simply trendy (much like being white is).

The eugenics that exists today is much like Nazi eugenics. It is exclusion based on racism/heightism/classism for no tangible reason. It's basically just a lot of people doing what they are told without understanding why they're doing it.

I'm a short guy. Has this limited my dating pool? Possibly, but I have dated pretty girls that were much taller than me. If anything, my dating pool was limited in the US because of my desire to not be a p***y and not be controlled by my girlfriends.

Luckily, in this world, intelligence is what actually provides one with advantages in life (as opposed to the perceived advantages of the other traits). Thus, any person that does not fit the eugenic mold for whatever reason (be it race, height, social status, looks, or job/education) can be the ones to truly prosper with intelligence.

That is not true, today intelligence will probably send you to a FEMA camp here in America if you are lucky, anybody who ?'s the social order is an enemy of the credit monopoly in the socialist dream state.

Your hole post is pretty much hog wash, today it's about how well you can chase Dee ball in the coliseum and tall and athletic is where it's at for the modern day gladiator image.

Daa black man can chase Dee ball like no otder human being so he be desirable in todays phony promise land of nonsense as far as image put forth by daa state.

Seriously? Black people are still very much discriminated against in the US.

And I don't mean intelligence as far as intellect. Nobody cares about that in this society. It matters in the sense of resourcefulness, which is also a trait that, in itself, is not attractive to women, but it will allow the person that possesses it the ability to achieve their desired goals in life and to basically escape The Matrix if that is what they desire.

[mrmillersd]

Height DOES have intrinsic value in our society. Height increases chances that your kids will be taller, thus making them more attractive for mating. its completely acceptable.


why is it ok to champion a intelligence ideal and not a blue eye/blond hair ideal? both are linked to genetics. How would it be fair if women favored intelligence over other genetic traits?

[Cornfed]

Height DOES have intrinsic value in our society. Height increases chances that your kids will be taller, thus making them more attractive for mating.

That is a circular argument.

[Adama]

Height DOES have intrinsic value in our society. Height increases chances that your kids will be taller, thus making them more attractive for mating. its completely acceptable.


why is it ok to champion a intelligence ideal and not a blue eye/blond hair ideal? both are linked to genetics. How would it be fair if women favored intelligence over other genetic traits?

There is no utility in being tall. Like almost anything else, if women like tall guys, it is a preference. It doesnt mean tall men are superior in any way. There is no genetic advantage over other individuals. There is the increased likelihood that the children of tall men will become tall upon maturity. That isnt a genetic advantage though. That is merely a possible outcome.

And as Cornfed said, your reasoning is circular.

[mrmillersd]

Are you sure a tall, comanding, imposing individual has no advantage due to height? many studies suggest that a majority of leaders, ceos. etc are above average height. Our society does seem to value height.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/02/0 ... ll.people/

http://www.livescience.com/5552-taller- ... money.html


more on height preference:
http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/d ... ceKVOupZ7w


Im just reporting what Ive merely seen-that women want taller mates because height contributes to reproductive and societal success.


my point is that discrimination, based on eugenics, DOES have a logical, tangible reason

[Moretorque]

Being Big and tall is a major + in society, I can attest to this because I am 6 foot 5 and 300 pounds naturally and in a lot of ways life is a lot easier for me, like the other day when we were doing a tree job and my employee who is 5 foot 8 and a runt could not reach this limb and I had to cut it for him like a little baby where you have to cut it's food up for it. And I was like do you want me to chew it for you too ?

I am just joking but being large overall goes a long way in alot of situations but it is probably like the big dog who dies prematurely.

It's a big +, women who like large men even like older guy's if they are bigger and stronger and more athletic than other people.

People tell me I missed the boat and was NFL material. I had never worked out in the Gym and was just playing around for a few months and I was like overall one of the strongest guys in the Gym and alot of them had been working out their whole life.

Women like that alot when a old man is stronger than these younger guy's naturally, it's a major signal for gene survival.

I am such a loser and I have squandered my hole life and for good reason, who the fu ck would want anything from this place.

[Moretorque]

Exactly...would you want a woman with a history of dwarfism or tay sachs genes?

What is wrong with women caring about eugenics? it is the most important feature of biological survival. Tall manly men simply have more desirable genes....

the point is YES. if you are a short male, then your genes will cause future generations to be shorter. This shortness will lend them a disadvantage in their own dating pool. Thus this could be seen as contamination, as you are introducing a set of genes that will give their own offspring a disadvantage in mate selection. This is detrimental to future generations.

Yes, but this only serves as a social function. Being tall and manly does not guarantee survival in today's world. Was it useful thousands of years ago? Sure. Today it's simply trendy (much like being white is).

The eugenics that exists today is much like Nazi eugenics. It is exclusion based on racism/heightism/classism for no tangible reason. It's basically just a lot of people doing what they are told without understanding why they're doing it.

I'm a short guy. Has this limited my dating pool? Possibly, but I have dated pretty girls that were much taller than me. If anything, my dating pool was limited in the US because of my desire to not be a p***y and not be controlled by my girlfriends.

Luckily, in this world, intelligence is what actually provides one with advantages in life (as opposed to the perceived advantages of the other traits). Thus, any person that does not fit the eugenic mold for whatever reason (be it race, height, social status, looks, or job/education) can be the ones to truly prosper with intelligence.

That is not true, today intelligence will probably send you to a FEMA camp here in America if you are lucky, anybody who ?'s the social order is an enemy of the credit monopoly in the socialist dream state.

Your hole post is pretty much hog wash, today it's about how well you can chase Dee ball in the coliseum and tall and athletic is where it's at for the modern day gladiator image.

Daa black man can chase Dee ball like no otder human being so he be desirable in todays phony promise land of nonsense as far as image put forth by daa state.

Seriously? Black people are still very much discriminated against in the US.

And I don't mean intelligence as far as intellect. Nobody cares about that in this society. It matters in the sense of resourcefulness, which is also a trait that, in itself, is not attractive to women, but it will allow the person that possesses it the ability to achieve their desired goals in life and to basically escape The Matrix if that is what they desire.

I am joking about that, the point I am making is mainstream is for idiots today with this socially engineered cluster fu ck we are living in. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts said in an interview recently that your intelligent people are going to be forced to go completely underground because they will want nothing to do with the Banker paradise of nothing but socialist lies.

What it means is for thinking educated people they are stuck in a society of embacles and they cannot bloom, this is why the Socialist states collapse. The thinking producing class gives up under the tyranny of the non producers.

[mrmillersd]

I see the argument-that all the traits that are "desirable" are also socially constructed. I disagree. Being large and strong is not a socially constructed benefit but a pure evolutionary one. Strip away all civilization, etc. and athletic, strong individuals WILL have an advantage over weak unathletic ones.


Seriously, you guys think society constructed this? you think in a place with a different or even no society, that athletic people wont have an advantage?

[Maverick]

I see the argument-that all the traits that are "desirable" are also socially constructed. I disagree. Being large and strong is not a socially constructed benefit but a pure evolutionary one. Strip away all civilization, etc. and athletic, strong individuals WILL have an advantage over weak unathletic ones.


Seriously, you guys think society constructed this? you think in a place with a different or even no society, that athletic people wont have an advantage?

Granted, in the past, large, physically strong individuals were very necessary. We couldn't have gone forward as a race without them. In today's world, in its current form, there is not as much of a need for physically strong individuals. The way to further our race today is through more internal means (intelligence) than external means (physical strength).

So, I do believe that it WAS a biological need at one time and was very feasible as a trait in a partner. Today, it is merely being strongly perpetuated by society. I do think that it is an advantage for that reason.

Of course, this all goes out the window if society comes to an end as many people believe it will on this forum. I, however, don't see it happening to the degree that it will put us as far back for this to become an issue.

[Cornfed]

I see the argument-that all the traits that are "desirable" are also socially constructed. I disagree. Being large and strong is not a socially constructed benefit but a pure evolutionary one. Strip away all civilization, etc. and athletic, strong individuals WILL have an advantage over weak unathletic ones.

Being strong and athletic is eugenic, but height has advantages and disadvantages. For example, short men are vastly more food and water efficient, tend to age better and are more mobile over broken and hilly ground. A while ago I posted a story about me easily outpacing very fit but tall Korean physical education teachers while walking up a mountain. I think these traits are going to be more useful in surviving the next 20 years than large size.

[Moretorque]

A Korean ? you have got to be joking me. I do not want to sound racist but just look at how many Koreans or Asians for that matter make it in any of the modern coliseum forms of entertainment of black man chase dee ball.

[mrmillersd]

So you are saying that because society doesnt need athleticism they shouldnt be considered by females as much as intellect. So you guys think that academic book worm types deserve the best women, because their intellect is most beneficial to society...

However, what makes you think there arnt people with both athleticism and extremely intelligence? There are plenty of men with both, and you need both to compete for the best women...


Also, im sure people with JD/MBA/PHD from HYP dont have too much trouble getting women people who are truly academically elite, and attend top elite schools tend to do just fine in interracial dating.