Japan is introducing Poland/Hungary esque marriage/family incentives...

[WanderingProtagonist]

@WilliamSmith

Even if the out marriage rate is higher then other Asian ethnicities, the percentage of Japanese who left the country is still very small. There are only 1.4 million Japanese Americans in the US to begin with. That’s only 1% of the Japanese population. Not a particularly high number of people “fleeing the country to get a foreign husband.”

Your presentation of the 84% statistic was extremely dishonest. The study never said 84% of Japanese think adultery is healthy, it said 84% of women think their extramarital affairs are healthy. That’s extremely different because they are looking specifically at people who cheated on their partner and obviously people who are cheaters are going to try to justify themselves. Anyway the study you posted claimed 20% of Japanese people have cheated. That’s not a particularly high rate of adultery.

You are referring to a fascination with mixed race people, not an actual phenomenon of it being everywhere. The highest numbers they gave in your own article was 45,000 international marriages . That’s a pretty small number compared to even European countries these days and that number has dropped to 23,000. Keep in mind that a lot of “international marriages” in Japan are marriages between Japanese people and other Asian ethnicities.

I don’t have time to respond to the book for now, I may get to it later.

I wouldn't read that book if I were you, that kind of stuff is going to let you down.
Better off avoiding it if you can help it.

I probably won't read it because I don't have time to read an entire book just to win an internet argument. What I do know is that I've had arguments like this countless times because people are obsessed with trying to "own the weeb" whenever someone talks positively about Japan. I don't know if its jealousy of Japan's success, or the pathological and fundamentally liberal mindset that so many Americans on the internet have of trying to act like every country in the world is basically equal in terms of how good it is or desperately trying to act like the same stuff going on in one country is what's going on everywhere and aggressively attacking anybody who suggests that there is no international equality and that most countries are basically completely different worlds from one another and that this often has either very terrible results or very good ones.

But every time I've seen arguments made against Japan's society... I have found their arguments to be incredibly pathetic and dishonest. I've seen people trying to act like Japan has some kind of secret murder crisis that they are simply hiding and that they report their murders as suicides. I've heard claims that the amount of rape in Japan is being hidden to an extreme degree as well. If I were to sit here and give you every bullshit argument I've heard we'd be here all night, but one thing almost every argument against Japan seems to rely on is the premise that Japanese people are substantially more likely to lie about everything then everybody else on the planet is. As if everybody else on the planet is perfectly honest while the Japanese are all uniquely prone to lying.

Judging from platforms I've used with Japanese people on it, they do tend to imitate the West to some degree. The West have been trying to convert Japan for ages to be more like them and it's slowly working. I mean why the f**k was BLM even there two years ago? Why are so many Japanese artist interested in NRT/Cheating themes like White cuckolds are in the West? Where did they learn about all the QOS cult shit involving black men humiliating white people to the point where they are now drawing artwork of black males humiliating Japanese men while taking their women from them.

And BLM being there just had no business there but they still existed there because the Japanese LET them in to protest. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with that shit, neither would North Korea. But Japan and South Korea both seem like the easiest countries for the West to convert if they wanted to since they are allies with the U.S. and any country that is allies with America, ends up eventually becoming America. IF there is a rape crises maybe it isn't being reported. They do often have a shit ton of scandels happening over there sometimes. Like that one guy who did Ronin kenshin, he had a lot of Child Porn on him and he got busted for it. The other guy behind Dead Or Alive, he was accused constantly of sexually harassing women. Then there were a lot of reports about the guys fondling women on trains, or taking upskirt photos of them with their phones. Desperate times create desperate situations.

[Yohan]

..... every time I've seen arguments made against Japan's society... I have found their arguments to be incredibly pathetic and dishonest. I've seen people trying to act like Japan has some kind of secret murder crisis that they are simply hiding and that they report their murders as suicides. I've heard claims that the amount of rape in Japan is being hidden to an extreme degree as well. If I were to sit here and give you every bullshit argument I've heard we'd be here all night....

Thank you for this comment, living in Japan since more than 45 years as a while man I get from time to time ridiculous arguments from outsiders, who claim that 'You MUST be discriminated', despite I do not feel being discriminated at all.

And about mixed race people in Japan, as my two daughters, they have no problem here at all. As a fact, more than 96 percent of the Japanese population are nothing else but pure Japanese, another 2 percent are Chinese and Koreans born in Japan, and the foreigners like myself are less than 2 percent, we are just a tiny minority.

Some misguided people truly think, Japan is the hell for every foreigner entering this country.

Just today, a guy on this forum is claiming that Japan censors the internet, including Youtube... what a nonsense. LOL

Of course, not everything is perfect in Japan, but the huge majority of Japanese are friendly, honest and helpful towards foreigners and the country is in general well organized, clean, crime-low.

[Yohan]

.....referring to a fascination with mixed race people, not an actual phenomenon of it being everywhere. The highest numbers they gave in your own article was 45,000 international marriages . That’s a pretty small number compared to even European countries these days and that number has dropped to 23,000. Keep in mind that a lot of “international marriages” in Japan are marriages between Japanese people and other Asian ethnicities.

The official data are rather outdated, because the census is only every 10 years.
Last official data are from 2013.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/database ... esults.pdf

Page 10, Table 7

Observing distributions of marriages in Japan between Japanese and foreigners, the
percentages of marriages in which “one of couple is foreigner” have been declining since 2007.

In 2013, the percentage of marriages for “Japanese groom and foreign bride” was 2.3 %,
“Japanese bride and foreign groom” was 0.9 % (Table 7).

Table 7. Trends in marriages and percent distribution by nationality of groom and bride
(Japanese or Foreigner), 2000,2005-2013

Last official count 2013 marriage

Japanese national/foreigners 21 488
foreign woman/Japanese man 15 442
foreign man/Japanese woman 6 046
foreign man/foreign woman 3 127



As you correctly mentions, many marriages between Japanese and foreigner are between Japanese and other Asian people.

And Brazilians are often Brazil-Japanese, US-citizens are often Asian-Americans...

[Outcast9428]

@WanderingProtagonist

Japan is a nation approximately 125 million people. You guys keep trying to say things along the lines of “this exists over there.” Of course you’re going to find a lot of weird niche groups and underground things going on there.

Japan is also a democracy, and democracies are very impaired in their ability to completely eliminate certain movements. You used the example of China but in China people who says things the government doesn’t like literally get legally punished for it. There is feminism in China, but the government censors them.

But the BLM rally you keep on talking about, it took place in Tokyo and only drew a few thousand people, most of whom were foreigners anyway. I watched one guy’s video, HeroHei, showing the Japanese reactions to BLM and most people hated BLM, thought it promoted crime.

This is how the mainstream Japanese feel about BLM… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hprdt-2UBg

But yes every nation has its weirdos. I guarantee you that you could find Africans who worship White people if you looked for it long enough. There are even feminists in Iran of all countries, but the government is executing them.

@Yohan Thank you for posting those statistics. I wasn’t aware of the exact breakdown of those marriages but seeing it broken down like that makes a particularly persuasive argument.

[WilliamSmith]

Your presentation of the 84% statistic was extremely dishonest. The study never said 84% of Japanese think adultery is healthy, it said 84% of women think their extramarital affairs are healthy. That’s extremely different because they are looking specifically at people who cheated on their partner and obviously people who are cheaters are going to try to justify themselves.

@Outcast9428
The quotation in bold is literally copied and pasted directly out of the article, and otherwise I literally posted the title of the article... so I wasn't being "extremely dishonest" since I literally just posted those and never even used the word "adultery."
However, after scratching my head a bit at your latest emo outburst flinging around accusations about my/our supposedly malevolent underhanded intentions, I think I now see what you were getting at: You thought I was trying to say 84+% of married Japanese women were cheating, when it was actually just 84% who voluntarily admitted cheating (and if we naively believe that the voluntary response rate is accurate, that was a much smaller 20%)? Anyway, sure, point acknowledged that 84% of 20% is a much smaller #, even though I wasn't being "dishonest" or trying to misrepresent the stats.

Anyway, I don't have any other big dispute about what you said (and sure I overstated the # of mixed children by saying Japan was "loaded" with them, but I wasn't lying or wrong that there is a fair amount of popular craze amongst some girls about "hafu" and how there's lots of gaijin hunters, and even things like hostels where some Japanese women go hoping to get knocked up by gaijins, etc).

I still think Japan is a great country and the Japanese are a great people and have said so all along, I just have stepped in to point out that your hysterical obsession with painting it as a mighty bastion of your fantasy version of what you want traditional monogamy isn't 100% on the mark, since the actual amount of sexual perversion/pathologies and cheating over there could come as an unpleasant surprise if you're in denial that exists.
(But again, like I also already said: I do think a lot of East Asian countries hopefully still have a promising future, most including Japan definitely are more conservative and palatable than collapsing Weimar 2.0 jewnited states and EU, and some of them are an excellent hunting ground for beta males to bag a "tradwife," etc.)

As I've good naturedly pointed out, my opinion is that some other choices such as Vietnam, Laos, etc are actually legitimately more conservative than you seem to think Japan is. (And when it comes to Thailand and the Philippines, good god, I'm through wasting my time on this: I see @MarcosZeitola even made you a thread trying to redpill you so I'll let him deal with it.)

[WilliamSmith]

@Outcast9428
@Yohan

I tried to clarify what I personally thought, but overall I agree with most of what you guys said in the last few posts, especially about a lot of the idiotic arguments against Japanese society (which I was only saying isn't quite the bastion of biologically-based monogamy that Outcast thinks, but it's still a good society overall IMO), and I agree about how the constant screeching that Japan is "racist" is also ridiculous.
(In my experience Japanese are more likely to have some rational nationalistic sentiments, compared with completely insane self-destructing "Western" judaized whites, yet Japanese are more often polite and tolerant of foreigners to the point I fear they're actually endangering themselves by not being more guarded against subversive foreign influences.)

My opinions on Japan, even if I was off the mark in a few places because I used overly colorful language like saying it was "loaded" with hafu, etc:

Japan is a great country, hopefully still savable as a healthy nation as long as they don't let in too many foreigners (which they've been doing, though the majority are other Asians)

Japanese people are often orders of magnitude more polite, civil, low-crime, etc

Pointing out some problems in Japan is not the same thing me saying the country's utterly doomed or perverted beyond hope, but it does have some problematic issues with:

Sex perversion and pathologies (the worst of which is their cultural acceptance of sexualization of children, which is definitely an issue there and not some dishonest figment of my imagination). There's also a growing plague of globohomo there, which is very bad.
That's one of the reasons I personally wouldn't want my kids growing up there (even though Weimar 2.0 USSA and Europe are even worse in some places at this time, and I was never saying Japanese society is a complete lemon regardless).

Quite a bit of sexless marriages and cheating, legalized pervy brothels, and that's created very real problems for them in having to bring in excessive foreigners due to demographic issues.

There's a ghastly excessive porn industry (also a huge for-profit abortion industry, among other things).

Anyway, I'm not even going to address the infantile fantasy argument that all "Asians" are supposedly biologically inclined toward monogamy anymore, but as for Japan: I am optimistic even though I'm not planning to go there anymore because I have other plans.

I'd say their main problem is being too soft on subversive foreign influence:

Only one little example, but I'll throw it out there:

EXPEL the BARBARIAN! —Why Does Japan Put Up with Expatriate Hack Julian Ryall, Who Campaigns to Destroy It with Mass Immigration?

https://www.unz.com/article/expel-the-b ... migration/

Outcast9428 you probably won't be shocked to observe that Ryall's a jew. That piece of !@#$ kike who calls himself "Debito Narudo" and is also constantly trying to push foreign immigration onto Japan and tub-thumping about how Japan is "racist" for the girsly horror of having polite "Japanese customer only please" signs on some shops, etc, is also a jew (originally from California, larping as a "white" man, as usual).

[Outcast9428]

Your presentation of the 84% statistic was extremely dishonest. The study never said 84% of Japanese think adultery is healthy, it said 84% of women think their extramarital affairs are healthy. That’s extremely different because they are looking specifically at people who cheated on their partner and obviously people who are cheaters are going to try to justify themselves.

@Outcast9428
The quotation in bold is literally copied and pasted directly out of the article, and otherwise I literally posted the title of the article... so I wasn't being "extremely dishonest" since I literally just posted those and never even used the word "adultery."
However, after scratching my head a bit at your latest emo outburst flinging around accusations about my/our supposedly malevolent underhanded intentions, I think I now see what you were getting at: You thought I was trying to say 84+% of married Japanese women were cheating, when it was actually just 84% who voluntarily admitted cheating (and if we naively believe that the voluntary response rate is accurate, that was a much smaller 20%)? Anyway, sure, point acknowledged that 84% of 20% is a much smaller #, even though I wasn't being "dishonest" or trying to misrepresent the stats.

Anyway, I don't have any other big dispute about what you said (and sure I overstated the # of mixed children by saying Japan was "loaded" with them, but I wasn't lying or wrong that there is a fair amount of popular craze amongst some girls about "hafu" and how there's lots of gaijin hunters, and even things like hostels where some Japanese women go hoping to get knocked up by gaijins, etc).

I still think Japan is a great country and the Japanese are a great people and have said so all along, I just have stepped in to point out that your hysterical obsession with painting it as a mighty bastion of your fantasy version of what you want traditional monogamy isn't 100% on the mark, since the actual amount of sexual perversion/pathologies and cheating over there could come as an unpleasant surprise if you're in denial that exists.
(But again, like I also already said: I do think a lot of East Asian countries hopefully still have a promising future, most including Japan definitely are more conservative and palatable than collapsing Weimar 2.0 jewnited states and EU, and some of them are an excellent hunting ground for beta males to bag a "tradwife," etc.)

As I've good naturedly pointed out, my opinion is that some other choices such as Vietnam, Laos, etc are actually legitimately more conservative than you seem to think Japan is. (And when it comes to Thailand and the Philippines, good god, I'm through wasting my time on this: I see @MarcosZeitola even made you a thread trying to redpill you so I'll let him deal with it.)

I consider Japan to be a center right kind of conservative country. The only kind of country that is actually 100% monogamous would be a country with really strict theocratic laws in place. I don’t know why everybody here thinks I’m talking in absolutes. They say things like “I’ve met degenerate Asians” as if the revelation of their existence is going to shock me or something. Eliminating all sexual degeneracy is about as realistic as saying we are going to completely get rid of theft. Obviously not a realistic goal. But you can make it so that it’s rare enough that it isn’t an issue for most people.

If Japan was completely conservative it wouldn’t need this family incentive program. But I would like to see Japan make tougher/stricter laws with regards to porn and to have more pro family propaganda in the country. But overall the foundations of Japanese society are very conservative and the mainstream culture of Japan is definitely conservative which is what I’ve been saying all along… Not that it’s 100% pure conservative. I don’t know why anybody thinks I was arguing that.

I also think Japan should do what Hungary is doing and start teaching girls in public schools that the most important role of women in society is that of a wife and mother. They could also start holding public ceremonies and give awards for stay at home moms who married young and have 4 or more children. You need society to publicly acknowledge the value of stay at home moms and reward them for their choices. Then you’ll have Japanese women marrying at younger ages and emphasizing marriage and family over career. If you do that. Most of the remaining degeneracy in Japan will solve itself. Along with stricter laws on porn of course.

Laos and Vietnam are not my kind of countries because they are communist societies that require that almost all women work in the workforce and I believe women should be stay at home moms.

[Yohan]

... I would like to see Japan make tougher/stricter laws with regards to porn ...

I really would like to ask you what you mean with tougher/stricter laws - compared to the past, let me say, 20 years ago - there are much stricter laws now already, the Japanese porn industry is strongly declining ....

[Yohan]

@WanderingProtagonist
.....
But the BLM rally you keep on talking about, it took place in Tokyo and only drew a few thousand people, most of whom were foreigners anyway. I watched one guy’s video, HeroHei, showing the Japanese reactions to BLM and most people hated BLM, thought it promoted crime.
.....
@Yohan Thank you for posting those statistics. I wasn’t aware of the exact breakdown of those marriages but seeing it broken down like that makes a particularly persuasive argument.

In Japan, if the organizer registers a rally and if time, place, route and behavior is respected as ordered by police then there is no problem,
you can basically complain about all and everything, some patrol car will show up and guide you along the street and if your time is over you have to disperse.

Most Japanese have no idea about what is BLM and therefore will neither be against it nor will support it, just walking with the crowd...

This black guy made a video and is not silent about his own opinion on Youtube what BLM in general and BLM in Japan means for him.
Check out what he says past minute 6:10



BLM was also active in Osaka, without any problem, permitted rally with police assistance
no lootings, no fightings, no arson etc....

I think this BLM movement is rather dead now in Japan since about 2 years, nothing heard again from them...

[WanderingProtagonist]

Your presentation of the 84% statistic was extremely dishonest. The study never said 84% of Japanese think adultery is healthy, it said 84% of women think their extramarital affairs are healthy. That’s extremely different because they are looking specifically at people who cheated on their partner and obviously people who are cheaters are going to try to justify themselves.

@Outcast9428
The quotation in bold is literally copied and pasted directly out of the article, and otherwise I literally posted the title of the article... so I wasn't being "extremely dishonest" since I literally just posted those and never even used the word "adultery."
However, after scratching my head a bit at your latest emo outburst flinging around accusations about my/our supposedly malevolent underhanded intentions, I think I now see what you were getting at: You thought I was trying to say 84+% of married Japanese women were cheating, when it was actually just 84% who voluntarily admitted cheating (and if we naively believe that the voluntary response rate is accurate, that was a much smaller 20%)? Anyway, sure, point acknowledged that 84% of 20% is a much smaller #, even though I wasn't being "dishonest" or trying to misrepresent the stats.

Anyway, I don't have any other big dispute about what you said (and sure I overstated the # of mixed children by saying Japan was "loaded" with them, but I wasn't lying or wrong that there is a fair amount of popular craze amongst some girls about "hafu" and how there's lots of gaijin hunters, and even things like hostels where some Japanese women go hoping to get knocked up by gaijins, etc).

I still think Japan is a great country and the Japanese are a great people and have said so all along, I just have stepped in to point out that your hysterical obsession with painting it as a mighty bastion of your fantasy version of what you want traditional monogamy isn't 100% on the mark, since the actual amount of sexual perversion/pathologies and cheating over there could come as an unpleasant surprise if you're in denial that exists.
(But again, like I also already said: I do think a lot of East Asian countries hopefully still have a promising future, most including Japan definitely are more conservative and palatable than collapsing Weimar 2.0 jewnited states and EU, and some of them are an excellent hunting ground for beta males to bag a "tradwife," etc.)

As I've good naturedly pointed out, my opinion is that some other choices such as Vietnam, Laos, etc are actually legitimately more conservative than you seem to think Japan is. (And when it comes to Thailand and the Philippines, good god, I'm through wasting my time on this: I see @MarcosZeitola even made you a thread trying to redpill you so I'll let him deal with it.)

So the Japanese is doing that weird ass Kalergi shit? Thank God I have no interest in that country. Nations that want to erase themselves are the f***ing worse.

[WanderingProtagonist]

@WanderingProtagonist
.....
But the BLM rally you keep on talking about, it took place in Tokyo and only drew a few thousand people, most of whom were foreigners anyway. I watched one guy’s video, HeroHei, showing the Japanese reactions to BLM and most people hated BLM, thought it promoted crime.
.....
@Yohan Thank you for posting those statistics. I wasn’t aware of the exact breakdown of those marriages but seeing it broken down like that makes a particularly persuasive argument.

In Japan, if the organizer registers a rally and if time, place, route and behavior is respected as ordered by police then there is no problem,
you can basically complain about all and everything, some patrol car will show up and guide you along the street and if your time is over you have to disperse.

Most Japanese have no idea about what is BLM and therefore will neither be against it nor will support it, just walking with the crowd...

This black guy made a video and is not silent about his own opinion on Youtube what BLM in general and BLM in Japan means for him.
Check out what he says past minute 6:10



BLM was also active in Osaka, without any problem, permitted rally with police assistance
no lootings, no fightings, no arson etc....

I think this BLM movement is rather dead now in Japan since about 2 years, nothing heard again from them...

Dude the fact that blacks or whties are even in Japan, you people end up changing societies especially if enough of you move to those places. I don't even understand the fuckin point in whites and blacks bitching about America but then fly abroad and bring the same cultural shit from America to Asia. Asians wouldn't even know wtf rap music or hip hop was if it wasn't for blacks and it is by far the worse damn music. You said no looting and no fighting. There obviously weren't a lot of blacks from America there. The looting and fighting happened here in the U.S. and it was mostly blacks and Antifa doing it. Japan obviously don't have Antifa in their country but Japan seems like a nation that's slowly changing judging from a lot of the stupid shit they're into that shows they are imitating and getting a lot of their ideas from Westerners. If I had to move to any Asian country it wouldn't be one where whites and Blacks have an influence on it.

[WanderingProtagonist]

@WanderingProtagonist
.....
But the BLM rally you keep on talking about, it took place in Tokyo and only drew a few thousand people, most of whom were foreigners anyway. I watched one guy’s video, HeroHei, showing the Japanese reactions to BLM and most people hated BLM, thought it promoted crime.
.....
@Yohan Thank you for posting those statistics. I wasn’t aware of the exact breakdown of those marriages but seeing it broken down like that makes a particularly persuasive argument.

In Japan, if the organizer registers a rally and if time, place, route and behavior is respected as ordered by police then there is no problem,
you can basically complain about all and everything, some patrol car will show up and guide you along the street and if your time is over you have to disperse.

Most Japanese have no idea about what is BLM and therefore will neither be against it nor will support it, just walking with the crowd...

This black guy made a video and is not silent about his own opinion on Youtube what BLM in general and BLM in Japan means for him.
Check out what he says past minute 6:10



BLM was also active in Osaka, without any problem, permitted rally with police assistance
no lootings, no fightings, no arson etc....

I think this BLM movement is rather dead now in Japan since about 2 years, nothing heard again from them...

Dude the fact that blacks or whties are even in Japan, you people end up changing societies especially if enough of you move to those places. I don't even understand the fuckin point in whites and blacks bitching about America but then fly abroad and bring the same cultural shit from America to Asia. Asians wouldn't even know wtf rap music or hip hop was if it wasn't for blacks and it is by far the worse damn music. You said no looting and no fighting. There obviously weren't a lot of blacks from America there. The looting and fighting happened here in the U.S. and it was mostly blacks and Antifa doing it. Japan don't have Antifa in their country but Japan seems like a nation that's slowly changing judging from a lot of the stupid shit they're into that shows they are imitating and getting a lot of their ideas from Westerners.

If I had to move to any Asian country it wouldn't be one where whites and Blacks have an influence on it. I've seen the type of pornography that Japan creates nowadays. In the 80s and 90s it was just mostly Japanese, now they got the whole "BLACKED" thing going on over there where Japanese guys get cucked by nigs f***ing their women. Thanks but no thanks. Japan is basically the West, same gay annoying bullshit because they let whites move there and the whites are the ones introducing them to a lot of the weird annoying f***ed up garbage from here. You've been there for many years, but you won't live long enough to see the country morph into the West after they get done f***ing up America and Europe. When there's nothing else left to f**k up, Japan's little safe haven will be the next destination.

The fact is it doesn't matter if it were peaceful or not in Japan. The Japanese still let them protest there. By them doing that, they honestly have no control over their own country. Anything whites demand them to do, they bend over and do it. And if William is right about the women having that weird fetish where they try to get knocked up intentionally by non Japanese guys then that's a pretty f***ed up country and they truly are no better than the whites in the U.S. who get off on trying to erase their own race and turning it into some kind of messed up fetish. I realized that the majority of nigs that go to Japan are mostly the hip hop looking mfers. They have nothing what so ever to offer Japan.

[WilliamSmith]

Dude the fact that blacks or whties are even in Japan, you people end up changing societies especially if enough of you move to those places. I don't even understand the fuckin point in whites and blacks bitching about America but then fly abroad and bring the same cultural shit from America to Asia. Asians wouldn't even know wtf rap music or hip hop was if it wasn't for blacks and it is by far the worse damn music. You said no looting and no fighting. There obviously weren't a lot of blacks from America there. The looting and fighting happened here in the U.S. and it was mostly blacks and Antifa doing it. Japan don't have Antifa in their country but Japan seems like a nation that's slowly changing judging from a lot of the stupid shit they're into that shows they are imitating and getting a lot of their ideas from Westerners.

Unfortunately, Japan actually definitely does have some antifa, even though I doubt it's as bad yet as it is in the ZOG countries (as far as I know). Hopefully the Japanese ultra-nationalists will crush them, but Japan does have a lot of fags and SJWs and invasive white cryptojews (and I guess blacks: I don't know how many of them are there who get involved in making trouble, I only know about some nice black girls there who weren't doing anything wrong), but we'll see.......

If I had to move to any Asian country it wouldn't be one where whites and Blacks have an influence on it. I've seen the type of pornography that Japan creates nowadays. In the 80s and 90s it was just mostly Japanese, now they got the whole "BLACKED" thing going on over there where Japanese guys get cucked by nigs f***ing their women. Thanks but no thanks. Japan is basically the West, same gay annoying bullshit because they let whites move there and the whites are the ones introducing them to a lot of the weird annoying f***ed up garbage from here. You've been there for many years, but you won't live long enough to see the country morph into the West after they get done f***ing up America and Europe. When there's nothing else left to f**k up, Japan's little safe haven will be the next destination.

I noticed that too: It was actually a Chinese I think who first mentioned this (Chinese despise Japanese usually, even if they keep up some pretense of civility), and he said something about how Japan had actually passed some law to prohibit porn with Japanese women and white guys (?! LOL, fine by me because porn is unhealthy, but the disgusting "cuck" stuff that's both fetishistic and designed to provoke racial animosity is even worse), and yet they'd left it open so developed a big genre of this "black porn" crap.

Women who have crushes on handsome foreign movie actors or musicians or something of a different race and therefore have a sexual and/or romantic fantasy about them is no problem (in my opinion), but a bunch of disgusting perverted fetishistic porn like that stuff has no positive side to it and ought to be outlawed. I don't understand what kind of a man would actually get off on watching that kind of thing anyway?! WTF, LOL.
But it's also terrible for whatever group of men is being exploited in it (the actors may have themselves to blame) because everyone will hate us even if we never had anything to do with it.
When I first heard about that "cuckolding porn" garbage in the states, I thought "all right that's it, I've absolutely had it with white shitlibs" because I thought they'd come up with it and didn't originally realized jews were behind it (which they are, as @WanderingProtagonist knows already, but see here where some of the kike "porn kings" even admit they lose money on some of it but keep producing it anyway: https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/02/in ... political/ )

And if William is right about the women having that weird fetish where they try to get knocked up intentionally by non Japanese guys then that's a pretty f***ed up country...

I wasn't saying that the gaijin hunters or those hostel things were a widespread phenomenon though!!
I don't think they really are at all. (There's lots of gaijin hunters if we're just talking about the basic headcount, but I wasn't trying to suggest that they're a huge percentage of the women, or that the kind of stuff I mentioned was some kind of majority trend at all:
I was just mentioning to @Outcast9428 that fantasizing that "Asians" (especially Japanese, Filipinos, and Thais) are all supposed genetics-based bastions of sexual conservatism and monogamy is silly and doesn't hold up to scrutiny because they've got a lot of messed up, indecent and unwholesome pervy shit and tons of promiscuity and cheating there (as well as the infamous fact of how easy Japanese and Chinese women are for men with decent womanizing skills, contrary to the silliness of some of the beta males on here claiming you supposedly can't get laid without becoming inducted into Asians "in-group culture" and social networks. Sure, that might get them friends, marriage prospects, etc, but for skirt-chasers it's common for guys to go from ho-hum results in the 'West' to wracking up dozens or hundreds of lays with Japanese and Chinese women).

...and they truly are no better than the whites in the U.S. who get off on trying to erase their own race and turning it into some kind of messed up fetish.

I don't think Japan is anywhere near as bad as the judaized "Western" whites, but otherwise I 100% agree on that: I absolutely DO NOT GET the whites who go in for this self-destructive shit. I'm well aware of the fact the jews want to wipe out the whites via "Great Replacement" (since those twisted nose gremlins openly admit it all the time in both writing and talks, social media, etc constantly, despite their actively trying to make it illegal for the whites to point that out).
But the almost self-destructive nature of so many whites in both the EU (and to a lesser but substantial degree jewnited states) is a totally bizarre pathology and I don't get it. Does any other race do that? I know they've been brainwashed a lot by jews via both religion and many generations of propaganda, but it's still weird. However, I do think I'm noticing much more backlash from whites who don't go in for the self-destructive brainwashing.....

I personally don't give a damn about racemixing amongst people who are just doing it without a political agenda (after all, separatists only need to stake out their own territories and it wouldn't be a big deal + that would be much better for us if they were allowed to, then they wouldn't be upset with those of us who do it without any attempt to be messing up someone else's nations / racial groups they want to preserve, etc). That's why jews and their SJW "useful idiots" try to make it sound like some monstrous crime when Japanese have some polite sign that says "Japanese customer only please," but it's better as a foreigner to know where we're not wanted. The jews promote the opposite and try to say unnatural forced "integration" is the only moral solution, but the real reason for that is that they want to exploit it as part of a divide-and-conquer strategy + try to genocide out the whites or other potentially dangerous opponents of the jew world order. I posted some references quoting influential and powerful jews who've admitted that too yesterday in some other off-topic thread (viewtopic.php?p=390049#p390049)

I realized that the majority of nigs that go to Japan are mostly the hip hop looking mfers. They have nothing what so ever to offer Japan.

On a lighter note: I'm not sure about what kinds of blacks go there in terms of overall #s, but I recall seeing some nerdy-ish black guys on some jewtube video, both with spectacles, and one of them was talking about how great it was because it wasn't racist, but the other was wearing like a checked suit and cap and the jewtube video creators were trying to make it sound like a sob story that Japanese people didn't always sit next to him on the train. I think you could have worse problems in a lot of places than Asians not always sitting next to you on the train.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Dude the fact that blacks or whties are even in Japan, you people end up changing societies especially if enough of you move to those places. I don't even understand the fuckin point in whites and blacks bitching about America but then fly abroad and bring the same cultural shit from America to Asia. Asians wouldn't even know wtf rap music or hip hop was if it wasn't for blacks and it is by far the worse damn music. You said no looting and no fighting. There obviously weren't a lot of blacks from America there. The looting and fighting happened here in the U.S. and it was mostly blacks and Antifa doing it. Japan don't have Antifa in their country but Japan seems like a nation that's slowly changing judging from a lot of the stupid shit they're into that shows they are imitating and getting a lot of their ideas from Westerners.

Unfortunately, Japan actually definitely does have some antifa, even though I doubt it's as bad yet as it is in the ZOG countries (as far as I know). Hopefully the Japanese ultra-nationalists will crush them, but Japan does have a lot of fags and SJWs and invasive white cryptojews (and I guess blacks: I don't know how many of them are there who get involved in making trouble, I only know about some nice black girls there who weren't doing anything wrong), but we'll see.......

If I had to move to any Asian country it wouldn't be one where whites and Blacks have an influence on it. I've seen the type of pornography that Japan creates nowadays. In the 80s and 90s it was just mostly Japanese, now they got the whole "BLACKED" thing going on over there where Japanese guys get cucked by nigs f***ing their women. Thanks but no thanks. Japan is basically the West, same gay annoying bullshit because they let whites move there and the whites are the ones introducing them to a lot of the weird annoying f***ed up garbage from here. You've been there for many years, but you won't live long enough to see the country morph into the West after they get done f***ing up America and Europe. When there's nothing else left to f**k up, Japan's little safe haven will be the next destination.

I noticed that too: It was actually a Chinese I think who first mentioned this (Chinese despise Japanese usually, even if they keep up some pretense of civility), and he said something about how Japan had actually passed some law to prohibit porn with Japanese women and white guys (?! LOL, fine by me because porn is unhealthy, but the disgusting "cuck" stuff that's both fetishistic and designed to provoke racial animosity is even worse), and yet they'd left it open so developed a big genre of this "black porn" crap.

Women who have crushes on handsome foreign movie actors or musicians or something of a different race and therefore have a sexual and/or romantic fantasy about them is no problem (in my opinion), but a bunch of disgusting perverted fetishistic porn like that stuff has no positive side to it and ought to be outlawed. I don't understand what kind of a man would actually get off on watching that kind of thing anyway?! WTF, LOL.
But it's also terrible for whatever group of men is being exploited in it (the actors may have themselves to blame) because everyone will hate us even if we never had anything to do with it.
When I first heard about that "cuckolding porn" garbage in the states, I thought "all right that's it, I've absolutely had it with white shitlibs" because I thought they'd come up with it and didn't originally realized jews were behind it (which they are, as @WanderingProtagonist knows already, but see here where some of the kike "porn kings" even admit they lose money on some of it but keep producing it anyway: https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/02/in ... political/ )

And if William is right about the women having that weird fetish where they try to get knocked up intentionally by non Japanese guys then that's a pretty f***ed up country...

I wasn't saying that the gaijin hunters or those hostel things were a widespread phenomenon though!!
I don't think they really are at all. (There's lots of gaijin hunters if we're just talking about the basic headcount, but I wasn't trying to suggest that they're a huge percentage of the women, or that the kind of stuff I mentioned was some kind of majority trend at all:
I was just mentioning to @Outcast9428 that fantasizing that "Asians" (especially Japanese, Filipinos, and Thais) are all supposed genetics-based bastions of sexual conservatism and monogamy is silly and doesn't hold up to scrutiny because they've got a lot of messed up, indecent and unwholesome pervy shit and tons of promiscuity and cheating there (as well as the infamous fact of how easy Japanese and Chinese women are for men with decent womanizing skills, contrary to the silliness of some of the beta males on here claiming you supposedly can't get laid without becoming inducted into Asians "in-group culture" and social networks. Sure, that might get them friends, marriage prospects, etc, but for skirt-chasers it's common for guys to go from ho-hum results in the 'West' to wracking up dozens or hundreds of lays with Japanese and Chinese women).

...and they truly are no better than the whites in the U.S. who get off on trying to erase their own race and turning it into some kind of messed up fetish.

I don't think Japan is anywhere near as bad as the judaized "Western" whites, but otherwise I 100% agree on that: I absolutely DO NOT GET the whites who go in for this self-destructive shit. I'm well aware of the fact the jews want to wipe out the whites via "Great Replacement" (since those twisted nose gremlins openly admit it all the time in both writing and talks, social media, etc constantly, despite their actively trying to make it illegal for the whites to point that out).
But the almost self-destructive nature of so many whites in both the EU (and to a lesser but substantial degree jewnited states) is a totally bizarre pathology and I don't get it. Does any other race do that? I know they've been brainwashed a lot by jews via both religion and many generations of propaganda, but it's still weird. However, I do think I'm noticing much more backlash from whites who don't go in for the self-destructive brainwashing.....

I personally don't give a damn about racemixing amongst people who are just doing it without a political agenda (after all, separatists only need to stake out their own territories and it wouldn't be a big deal + that would be much better for us if they were allowed to, then they wouldn't be upset with those of us who do it without any attempt to be messing up someone else's nations / racial groups they want to preserve, etc). That's why jews and their SJW "useful idiots" try to make it sound like some monstrous crime when Japanese have some polite sign that says "Japanese customer only please," but it's better as a foreigner to know where we're not wanted. The jews promote the opposite and try to say unnatural forced "integration" is the only moral solution, but the real reason for that is that they want to exploit it as part of a divide-and-conquer strategy + try to genocide out the whites or other potentially dangerous opponents of the jew world order. I posted some references quoting influential and powerful jews who've admitted that too yesterday in some other off-topic thread (viewtopic.php?p=390049#p390049)

I realized that the majority of nigs that go to Japan are mostly the hip hop looking mfers. They have nothing what so ever to offer Japan.

On a lighter note: I'm not sure about what kinds of blacks go there in terms of overall #s, but I recall seeing some nerdy-ish black guys on some jewtube video, both with spectacles, and one of them was talking about how great it was because it wasn't racist, but the other was wearing like a checked suit and cap and the jewtube video creators were trying to make it sound like a sob story that Japanese people didn't always sit next to him on the train. I think you could have worse problems in a lot of places than Asians not always sitting next to you on the train.

I just wouldn't feel right living in a country like Japan, so I would never go over there. The country is too small which may be a good thing to some extent. But they just feel far too easy to erode and take over.
There was also one Japanese nationalist that warned about what could happen to Japan if they didn't fight Westernization and his name was Yukio Mishima. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima

[MatureDJ]

Japan is eyeballs in debt. Their Debt to GDP ratio is whooping 225.8%, much worst than America.
I don't think they can turn their country's economy around. They can print out more money and delay the inevitable.. but they will continue to
experience deflationary spiral and China is eating their lunch. It's good that they are trying to encourage Japanese people to have more family, but their children will not have good opportunities in Japan anyway because of it's outdated work culture, mediocre pay, close mindedness and lot of social pressures. All the smart Japanese people I know of have emigrated to the U.S because they can't stand the Japanese Bureaucracy, corporate culture, social culture, limited opportunities, etc. Japan is F*cked and so as South Korea. China will be F*cked also because of their mistake with their demographic policy back in the 1970's one child policy. It going to be bite them in the a$$.

Japan is so advanced that it's economy can basically run on robots. It is ahead of the curve on the hyperefficiency curse.