The real reason American women don't pick good men

[Introvert]

ladislav - "In the US, people are forced to live in a racial hierarchy no matter who they are and must accept identities and labels forced upon them by some invisible authorities (and that they do not even always agree with) and then they must be "proud" of those. And be anything but Americans. Either something totally backward and a remainder from the past and an invention of some raving lunatic, or a very cunning system to divide the nation."

My thoughts and sentiments exactly. Very well stated.


Regarding the OP:
Bad boys don't judge. They accept the undesirable behaviors of their girls (plural) and even encourage them.

Nowadays, many women see good/decent guys as being uptight and judgmental which to them equates to "not fun".

[Winston]

Another thing that I told OTB was that isn't it ironic how the word "happy" is in the domain name of this site, yet most of the posts here are angry and negative, albeit justifiably so? LOL Isn't that funny when you think about it? LOL

[ExpeditionSailor]

In the Guelph area of Ontario, Canada, a little girl was sexually assaulted and murdered last year by a man and a woman who picked her up as she was walking home from school.

Both the defence and prosecution are submitting final arguments this week. One of the more sordid facts to come out of the trial is that the woman claims that she, not the man, actually murdered the little girl. In other words, the woman is doing her best to take the fall for the man, who was her boyfriend prior to, and at the time of the murder.

Long before the murder was committed, this same woman willingly agreed to work as an escort at the man's request and hand over all the money she made to him.

This, gentlemen, is the extent to which women will go when they become involved with bad men. It seems that something utterly evil takes over in the minds of women when they opt for the negative choice because bad, dangerous men are somehow more exciting and worthy than men who don't commit any crimes at all.

[PrisonerOfLife]

OTB and I talked about a few other things as well:
2. Another interesting thing we both observed was that while on the internet, you hear a lot of hype about "approaching women", esp on PUA sites, in real everyday life, you don't actually see anyone approaching women. Instead, everyone minds their own business and goes about their own thing, ignoring everyone else. Thus it feels inappropriate and out on a limb to try to cold approach a woman, when no one else around you is doing it, and makes you feel like some kind of freak. So it's strange that what you read about on the internet and what you see in everyday life don't match up at all.

Anyone ever notice that too?

Yes I have seen this exact same paradox myself. You described it perfectly here.

I've seen casual approaches that resulted in platonic conversation but I've never personally seen real chemistry be created between two people spontaneously.

[jamesbond]

(Sigh) It's a wonder anyone hooks up in such societies. I wonder how. Other than going to parties and being introduced through mutual friends, there's really no way for a normal person who is not a celebrity to meet women. Of course, there's always the internet too, but we all know how that goes.[/b]

This is why most people in anglo-countries only meet people through their friends. Going to parties is a good way to meet women but unless someone you know invites you to a party, you won't be going to any parties. (unless of course you throw your own party).

Talking to strangers is considered taboo in western nations. This explains why women get a "paranoid look" on their face if a guy approaches them.

Your supposed to mind your own business in anglo-nations and wait until you meet women through your friends.

Welcome to dating in modern day anglo-countries!

[Jester]

Yea, talking about race, even in a civil manor, is not tolerated. In this country ( and others) you can only really talk about other races when you're with your own race; that's the only way things don't spiral out into a heated argument.

I wish you could be a fly on the wall when I get together with my part-white, part-Armenian sons and we make fun of Whites and Armos. We laugh till our sides hurt.

IMO it is always your own people that most drives you nuts.

[Jester]

This is why black people need to leave the US. Why live around people, despite what you do, will always you consider you apes and will prevent your race as a whole from succeeding?

In my opinion, not exactly "leave" the US but add a few countries to it. Diversify your places and do not put all your eggs in one basket. I had a friend from Tennessee, a black guy and he was working in Saudi while going to Ethiopia and slowly establishing his home there. Then he went to Iraq, saved up some 100K and eventually went to Addis Abbaba and set up a guest house in that city. So, a US passport, Middle Eastern assignments and money ( plenty of money, there, but very tight in the US) and a beautiful country in Africa with gorgeous babes everywhere. A perfect formula. That is what many should do, in my opinion.

In the US, people are forced to live in a racial hierarchy no matter who they are and must accept identities and labels forced upon them by some invisible authorities ( and that they do not even always agree with) and then they must be "proud" of those. And be anything but Americans. Either something totally backward and a remainder from the past and an invention of some raving lunatic, or a very cunning system to divide the nation.

I read an article about the Philippine "racial structure" and officially it does not exist. There are no official documents showing race even though the country is very diverse race-wise. All people are just Filipinos. All citizens. even naturalized ,ones are called Filipinos. So you have very white and very black people who look much happier than the ones in the US. There is surely discrimination like in any other place but it is mostly economic and still no one considers another person an ape. There is respect that is inherent in the culture from millennia back.

Ethiopia, yes, interesting country. Haughty people, sexy women.

Old treaty gives Americans automatic equivalent of a business visa I think.

[toysarefun]

Simple: They want to be victimized, it's all over TV, it's glamorous, he will pump her simple ego and whisper sweet little lies into her ear until she is all his. Women respond to talkers, especially if they know how to harness the basics of the female ego. Also, women are fixers, they love bad boys, they think they can change them and all that, so they go right to them for that reason as well.

[Blue Murder]

They don't pick good men because they know that they don't deserve 'em. It's that, or just that they're logics are sort-of inverted. It's not a lack of standards, it's a f***ed-up sort-of standard -- where being a bad boy is actually being a decent guy. I know it's weird, but this is how women think. Remember, we're logical, they are emotional.

Call me sexist if you want, but it's for this reason that I would never want one in a position of significant power. No Presidents, no Chancellors, Queens, Martials, Prime Ministers, etc -- you get the idea.

[OutsideoftheBox]

LOL@"Good men."

All men are good; only manginas are defective. Pushing the "she won't date me because I'm a GOOD MAN" sounds hopelessly pathetic. Men need to grow out of that shit.

[lavezzi]

I've found it's only Anglo women who don't generally value good-natured character in a man. It's not that they purposely go for bad boys for complex psychological reasons, but rather that the culture is so backwards that those types have the highest social status.

[OutsideoftheBox]

Unfortunately I don't buy the "good men" nonsense. Its just more mangina talk. This system is corrupt; and the very legal system itself is owned and operated by criminals. Therefore, obeying statutes, because they aren't actually real "laws" does not constitute a man. It only shows you're a slave.

The same system that pedestalizes females criminalizes men. And agreeing with it by claiming "I'm not a criminal...I's a good's man" only seems like a slave mentality. The hell with American females. The hell with "good men." The hell with the system that created them.

[OutsideoftheBox]

I've found it's only Anglo women who don't generally value good-natured character in a man. It's not that they purposely go for bad boys for complex psychological reasons, but rather that the culture is so backwards that those types have the highest social status.

You obviously have a thing for black females, which might be why you lie for them. American black females hate men just like their white sisters do. Attempting to place one on the pedestal over the other is a mangina tactic. American black females are trash, American white females are trash. Think with the big head, not the little one.

American black females, in the long run, treat all men like dirt. They USE men for resources; there is no love. The white American female does the same. An American female is an American female. I've seen a few racists, in some kind of childish competition with black men, try to claim American black females treat them better.

Bullshit, there are news stories, videos, etc. all over the place of American black females dogging white males out. Just as there are videos of American white females dogging black men out. ALL OF THESE BITCHES ARE THE SAME IN AMERICA. PERIOD.

[Blue Murder]

While Outside is wrong about good men, he's spot-on about the separation of black versus white American women.

They ALL suck. Don't f**k with ANY of them.

[OutsideoftheBox]

While Outside is wrong about good men, he's spot-on about the separation of black versus white American women.

They ALL suck. Don't f**k with ANY of them.

Outside is right about everything. And he's not a good man either.