Getting away from the U.S./Anglo racial system

[KokujinKrusader]

Zboy,

How long have you been in Asia? It's possible you are still in the "honeymoon phase" of your experience, and haven't seen or been exposed to the darker side of things yet. When you get challenged to fights on an almost nightly basis for being seen with one of "their" local women, you let me know.

China in particular is notorious for being anti-black in many areas.

This is true, but zBoy is not Black. It's not his problem.

Even in the case of Black people, we are not first choice in most arenas, but it is possible to succeed if enough effort is put in. My honeymoon phase was killed early, given that I am a Black man, but overall I still had a better time in China than I do in America. Potentially, there are lower lows, but i had much higher highs as well, and while violence does happen, I think that it would be more likely that I would encounter violence in an American club trying to hook up with women that I don't want vs. getting free drinks in a Chinese clubs and occasionally, women that I do want.

[zboy1]

Zboy,

How long have you been in Asia? It's possible you are still in the "honeymoon phase" of your experience, and haven't seen or been exposed to the darker side of things yet. When you get challenged to fights on an almost nightly basis for being seen with one of "their" local women, you let me know.

China in particular is notorious for being anti-black in many areas. I even applied for a recruiting job for a Chinese language company in Shanghai, one of the more "progressive" cities, to recruit overseas English teachers for teaching posts throughout the country, and one of their requirements was "do not recruit black people. White people from the US, Canada, and the UK only." They wouldn't even let me recruit Australians or Irish people, because they thought their accents were "non-standard." Needless to say, I did not accept the job, and I reported their practices to several TESOL job boards.

Zboy, I am in agreement with you. It is a much better place than the US for meeting women, getting a job, etc. But, I think we need to be realistic, let's not try to make it out as being perfect.

I'm not Black so even though I agree with you that Blacks get discriminated against in Asia, it doesn't really affect me as much--being Asian in ethnicity. Whites also complain about racism in Asia, but it's the 'Whites' that do the discriminating against non-Whites in Western countries, so when the tables are turned it seems like they don't like it when it happens to 'them.'

Yes, Asia is racist but I feel more-at-home here than I do in the United States; it's hard to explain, especially for those that aren't Asian American.

There's lots of 'Asia' bashers all over the Internet--even on this forum--but that won't stop me from leaving this region in the future.

[KokujinKrusader]

Yeah, and White guys really have little to complain about in Asia to be honest.

[zboy1]

Yeah, and White guys really have little to complain about in Asia to be honest.

That's not always true, Kokujin. Ladislav, who is White, resents Asians for their racism he received in Asian countries. I've also met many Whites who came to hate Asians and went home, with-their-tails-between-their-legs.

You seem like a self-hating Black man, Kokujin. Why do you always put Black people down and yet, always put White people up? You sound like a well-known troll on Roosh and YouTube named GeorgeRockwell, who also did the same thing. Stop with the 'I hate myself for being Black,' because it sounds pathetic, to be honest.

[KokujinKrusader]

Yeah, and White guys really have little to complain about in Asia to be honest.

That's not always true, Kokujin. Ladislav, who is White, resents Asians for their racism he received in Asian countries. I've also met many Whites who came to hate Asians and went home, with-their-tails-between-their-legs.

You seem like a self-hating Black man, Kokujin. Why do you always put Black people down and yet, always put White people up? You sound like a well-known troll on Roosh and YouTube named GeorgeRockwell, who also did the same thing. Stop with the 'I hate myself for being Black,' because it sounds pathetic, to be honest.

I'm not a self-hater. My trip to China and Taiwan actually helped me to get over that and have more confidence, regardless of demoralizing things that we see on this forum and others, but still, the truth is the truth. Most White dudes that go home with their tails between their legs are probably looking at small things and expecting to get the red carpet 100% of the time rather than 95% of the time. I did know White guys that complained in China, but it was mostly about the level of cleanliness or the dubious food.

My purpose is not to put Black people down at all; we have enough enemies to do that for us. I only want to ground folks in reality, that for us, it is not a bed of roses like it can be for others, although there are slight opportunities out there

Yeah, I know George. He and I used to run in some of the same online circles. I actually ran into him one time in Osaka.

[Jester]

I've gone one step farther though and i've started to reduce the number of american and english speaking people I know and meet abroad as well. Too many of them import their own prejudices and are not good people to have around especially if you are trying to get away from toxic American culture. So these days when I meet an American he better have some very good references.

Mexico is like that too. Canadian TOURISTS are friendly and charming. White as hell, in all senses of the word, but harmless.

Whereas American expats who LIVE here, retired or working, are kind of prickly. Still think that it is Mexico that should change to meet their expectations.

[Jester]

Look at what a person does and how they live (not even what they say) to learn their beliefs and which side they are truly on.

Word.

[Jester]

The U.S. is a good place to make money and maybe build a niche but it's no place to build generations. It's a dead end culture.

The way you state it is eye-opening. It reminded me of how Saudi Arabia was viewed in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Go there to make a buck, bank it, get out, go somewhere decent.

[ladislav]

Yeah, and White guys really have little to complain about in Asia to be honest.

That's not always true, Kokujin. Ladislav, who is White, resents Asians for their racism he received in Asian countries. I've also met many Whites who came to hate Asians and went home, with-their-tails-between-their-legs.

You seem like a self-hating Black man, Kokujin. Why do you always put Black people down and yet, always put White people up? You sound like a well-known troll on Roosh and YouTube named GeorgeRockwell, who also did the same thing. Stop with the 'I hate myself for being Black,' because it sounds pathetic, to be honest.

I have never done anything bad to Asians, I come from a Eurasian country. I also did not grow up as a "white" person. So, I don't deserve it. No innocent person deserves to be humiliated because he is of a certain race. White, black, yellow, red, whatever. So, no gloating please. Asians in their own countries also do not call white people white; they call them "foreigners". So, yes I resent their racism and also any other racism because it's wrong, period.

Tail in between their legs somehow indicates that a person went in with some cocky attitude and got beat up for something he deserves. Which is not the case all the time.

And most Asians are more xenophobic than racist. They don't wake up saying "I am Asian, I am Asian". Asian is an ethnicity in America, not in Asia. There they are Japanese who don't like non Japanese, Koreans who don't like non Koreans, etc. The only country that is pan- Asianistic is Thailand, but they hate Indians even more than white people. And they hate Lao, Khmer and Burmese even more.

[ladislav]

The U.S. is a good place to make money and maybe build a niche but it's no place to build generations. It's a dead end culture.

The way you state it is eye-opening. It reminded me of how Saudi Arabia was viewed in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Go there to make a buck, bank it, get out, go somewhere decent.

I found Saudi Arabia to be a very pleasant place to live. It's actually a very comfortable country now. The States is good with credit and education. Saudi is good with cash. The US taxes and works you to death. But it's a good place to invest with someone else's money. Also, it's so easy to get into college and get a degree here.

[D_Athlete]

All Asian countries are pretty racist and xenophobic against whites and other foreigners. Korea especially. They have a show in which they depict this white man from New Zealand as a fat, bumbling, unintelligent subhuman oaf. Japan does the same shit.

Asians in America also make more money and are generally way more successful than white Americans. They just have it shit in the dating game.

Black guys are treated like kings in the US. Not to mention Canada, the UK, and Western Europe. Put the average black guy next to the average white guy and the black guy will slay it way more and be wayyyy more popular with women in these countries. Not to mention have better job and university entry opportunities. Black guys also get a harem of Japanese girlfriends and offers for jobs in porn the second they step off a plane in Japan.

If you're miserable, it's your probably your own fault. Play to your strengths, go where you're in demand.

[Ghost]

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[zboy1]

Yeah, and White guys really have little to complain about in Asia to be honest.

That's not always true, Kokujin. Ladislav, who is White, resents Asians for their racism he received in Asian countries. I've also met many Whites who came to hate Asians and went home, with-their-tails-between-their-legs.

You seem like a self-hating Black man, Kokujin. Why do you always put Black people down and yet, always put White people up? You sound like a well-known troll on Roosh and YouTube named GeorgeRockwell, who also did the same thing. Stop with the 'I hate myself for being Black,' because it sounds pathetic, to be honest.

I have never done anything bad to Asians, I come from a Eurasian country. I also did not grow up as a "white" person. So, I don't deserve it. No innocent person deserves to be humiliated because he is of a certain race. White, black, yellow, red, whatever. So, no gloating please. Asians in their own countries also do not call white people white; they call them "foreigners". So, yes I resent their racism and also any other racism because it's wrong, period.

Tail in between their legs somehow indicates that a person went in with some cocky attitude and got beat up for something he deserves. Which is not the case all the time.

And most Asians are more xenophobic than racist. They don't wake up saying "I am Asian, I am Asian". Asian is an ethnicity in America, not in Asia. There they are Japanese who don't like non Japanese, Koreans who don't like non Koreans, etc. The only country that is pan- Asianistic is Thailand, but they hate Indians even more than white people. And they hate Lao, Khmer and Burmese even more.

How was I gloating? LOL. Where in my post did I gloat? I'm just telling Kokujin aka GeorgeRockwell--a well known self-hating Black troll on various websites--that it's not a red carpet for White guys that Kokujin thinks it is in Asia. Of course, some Whites do well and others don't. That's all I was trying to tell him that.

You imagine to many things from me. I know you dislike Asians and me, especially, but I'm not gloating at all. Seriously. Why so much hostility, Ladislav?

[Repatriate]

The U.S. is a good place to make money and maybe build a niche but it's no place to build generations. It's a dead end culture.

The way you state it is eye-opening. It reminded me of how Saudi Arabia was viewed in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Go there to make a buck, bank it, get out, go somewhere decent.

The one thing they never tell you in America and what should be mandatory knowledge for any young American man is that you better have an exit strategy planned or keep it as a viable future option. I didn't truly comprehend how f***ed up things were until I was maybe in my early 20's. I didn't start actively planning to leave until my mid 20's or so. I consider myself lucky because I was in the right time and the right place career wise to sock away money and managed to put it in decent investments.

Realistically if a young man wants to bail he can get a STEM degree at age 21 or so if he graduates early and is a smart cookie. He can work his ass off for 7-10 years and live like a pauper spending zero money on frivolous garbage or wasting money on American women while socking away money like a madman. Let's assume he can make at least 80k a year in a high demand field. He can easily escape the U.S. if he plans correctly and invests wisely.

The book Bachelor Pad Economics is pretty good and puts all this in practical terms.

[WanderingProtagonist]

All Asian countries are pretty racist and xenophobic against whites and other foreigners. Korea especially. They have a show in which they depict this white man from New Zealand as a fat, bumbling, unintelligent subhuman oaf. Japan does the same shit.

Asians in America also make more money and are generally way more successful than white Americans. They just have it shit in the dating game.

Black guys are treated like kings in the US. Not to mention Canada, the UK, and Western Europe. Put the average black guy next to the average white guy and the black guy will slay it way more and be wayyyy more popular with women in these countries. Not to mention have better job and university entry opportunities. Black guys also get a harem of Japanese girlfriends and offers for jobs in porn the second they step off a plane in Japan.

If you're miserable, it's your probably your own fault. Play to your strengths, go where you're in demand.

Sounds like a bunch of Jew bullshit to me. Japanese women don't desire negros aside from the shit looking ones that try to look like black women. If Japanese is selling out their own men like this they are no better than the garbage assholes that do that in the U.S. black men are the worse f***ing guys ever, especially at fatherhood and here in America they are violent as f**k toward other blacks and Asian people as well and you expect to believe millions of Japanese women are crazy for them when they don't even travel to negro countries, the first thing they do is travel to European countries.