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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by Cornfed » June 27th, 2018, 9:55 am

^ So we're basically committing suicide as a society. Yes, we know.




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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by xiongmao » June 27th, 2018, 3:04 pm

In my 20 years as a developer...

No they can't write good software.
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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by publicduende » June 27th, 2018, 6:59 pm

Cornfed wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 9:55 am
^ So we're basically committing suicide as a society. Yes, we know.
It surely wasn't suicide Britain was committing, when it let a few women program the computer that, basically, made them win WW2.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by publicduende » June 27th, 2018, 7:00 pm

xiongmao wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 3:04 pm
In my 20 years as a developer...

No they can't write good software.
No offense but...that is true for men as well. Only a minority of software developers can write good software.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by Cornfed » June 27th, 2018, 9:51 pm

publicduende wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 6:59 pm
Cornfed wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 9:55 am
^ So we're basically committing suicide as a society. Yes, we know.
It surely wasn't suicide Britain was committing, when it let a few women program the computer that, basically, made them win WW2.
Hiring some girls to stick vacuum tubes in the right place does not demonstrate that females are good programmers. (Of course, fighting on the Jewish side in WWII was societal suicide). Getting females into STEM is surely societal suicide. Either they suck in which case we are squandering our only comparative advantage. If they don’t suck it is likely that our best females and the talented men they are displacing are not having children, so we are bringing about Idiocracy. Suicide either way.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by publicduende » June 28th, 2018, 6:40 am

Cornfed wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 9:51 pm
publicduende wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 6:59 pm
Cornfed wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 9:55 am
^ So we're basically committing suicide as a society. Yes, we know.
It surely wasn't suicide Britain was committing, when it let a few women program the computer that, basically, made them win WW2.
Hiring some girls to stick vacuum tubes in the right place does not demonstrate that females are good programmers. (Of course, fighting on the Jewish side in WWII was societal suicide). Getting females into STEM is surely societal suicide. Either they suck in which case we are squandering our only comparative advantage. If they don’t suck it is likely that our best females and the talented men they are displacing are not having children, so we are bringing about Idiocracy. Suicide either way.
They weren't "sticking vacuum tubes", they were doing all the logical programming that allowed those tubes to spit out meaningful results. Back in the days programming languages didn't exists, logical units had to be programmed one by one based on the way they were connected together...some sort of primitive assembly language. Very serious math, logic and electronics were needed to even come close to one of those metal beasts.

Whatever men say, getting girls into STEM is producing better graduates. Full stop. Statistics prove it. I know it by experience. Female students are usually (relatively!) more disciplined and more studious than their male counterparts. While it is true that girls are benefiting from a school/college culture that constantly encourages and empowers them, often at the detriment of male students, this is enough evidence that women are just as intellectually capable as men and - with the right spurs and incentives - they can outrace them.

Lastly, you should stop thinking that having a (STEM) career is the opposite of being a mother. There are plenty of examples of jobless women who could have all the time in their hands to bring up their children in the best possible way, yet they end up being terrible mothers. And women who manage to juggle between their jobs and their motherly roles with good results.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by leanshots » April 4th, 2019, 12:52 pm

My girlfriend is a NET Application Developer (Team Leader position). And I am confident that she can program well. Handling C# and VB language. WPF MVVM. (she told me to write that lol)

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by Amalagama » April 24th, 2019, 10:11 am

Cornfed wrote:
October 16th, 2012, 12:02 am
The very idea of women writing original computer code seems crazy given that they are all basket cases who think their own hysterical emotions define reality. When I've posed this question, manginas in the software industry will sometimes claim that women can do useful stuff but generally do so in evasive terms (like claiming the women are "involved" in software development) and can't come up with any specifics. Often the manginas can't even come up with any specifics about what software they themselves have produced, leading me to believe that the reason they regard women as their equals is that they are equally useless. Meanwhile you hear lots of stories of men showing clueless females how to use their e-mail and such only to have the females promoted over them into senior development positions.

My belief is that some women in the industry may be doing quasi-useful secretarial type work, but most female so-called developers are total frauds stealing money from the system, not unlike essentially all women claiming to do non-menial jobs. Can anyone with experience in the industry comment? Also, do most female developers even pretend to be able to do their job? If you asked them to, for example, write a program that takes in a string and writes it out in reverse without using an existing function, would the generally even be able to do that? My suspicion is that they wouldn't in most cases.
That's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard! :cry:

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by Cornfed » April 25th, 2019, 9:59 am

Amalagama wrote:
April 24th, 2019, 10:11 am
Cornfed wrote:
October 16th, 2012, 12:02 am
The very idea of women writing original computer code seems crazy given that they are all basket cases who think their own hysterical emotions define reality. When I've posed this question, manginas in the software industry will sometimes claim that women can do useful stuff but generally do so in evasive terms (like claiming the women are "involved" in software development) and can't come up with any specifics. Often the manginas can't even come up with any specifics about what software they themselves have produced, leading me to believe that the reason they regard women as their equals is that they are equally useless. Meanwhile you hear lots of stories of men showing clueless females how to use their e-mail and such only to have the females promoted over them into senior development positions.

My belief is that some women in the industry may be doing quasi-useful secretarial type work, but most female so-called developers are total frauds stealing money from the system, not unlike essentially all women claiming to do non-menial jobs. Can anyone with experience in the industry comment? Also, do most female developers even pretend to be able to do their job? If you asked them to, for example, write a program that takes in a string and writes it out in reverse without using an existing function, would the generally even be able to do that? My suspicion is that they wouldn't in most cases.
That's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard! :cry:
Yes, if you are a grown child who is used to men constantly pandering to you to get into your pants and the system pandering to you because females are the majority of voters, someone telling it like it is must come as a complete shock.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by Cornfed » April 25th, 2019, 10:10 am

leanshots wrote:
April 4th, 2019, 12:52 pm
My girlfriend is a NET Application Developer (Team Leader position).
Team leader probably meaning she doesn't need to actually do anything but can just take all the credit because she has a vagina.

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Re: Can women actually write software?

Post by xiongmao » May 11th, 2019, 1:57 pm

My 20 year IT career is over. I can't think of any women I worked with who were really good. Maybe one or two.

Now I'm teaching students doing IT and other majors. I have to say I would rather employ the English majors and teach them programming than employ the IT majors and teach them social skills.

Well none of the best programmers I worked with actually studied IT so I should have known this already.
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