Ethics & Values
Posted: November 26th, 2022, 4:31 am
I want to talk a bit about ethics and values and how they are intrinsically tied with morality. So let's share our values with each other and talk about why we have adopted those values. But first, a little bit of a run down of the differences between ethics and values:
Ethics is a branch of knowledge which deals with moral principles, they are something that is consistent, such as ethical medical practices for example or the universal ethic of not killing another human being. So we could argue that certain ethics are universally tied with a sense of objective morality. Something we all know is right or wrong with no middle ground etc.
Beneficence, nonmaleficence, autonomy, and justice constitute the four principles of ethics. The first two can be traced back to the time of Hippocrates “to help and do no harm,” while the latter 2 evolved later.
This is why I was so opposed to the vaccine being mandated and pushed onto everyone else. It was an infraction against personal autonomy, which is supposed to be one of the many fundamental principles of medicine. What do you think of this @Cornfed? This should be the only argument necessary to not take a vaccine. Aside from the fact it is poisonous and will kill you or make you a vax zombie.
Values differ from person to person and are usually adopted from the culture the individual grew up in. For example if you grow up in a Christian society, your values are likely to be Christian values or traditionalist values. In a Muslim country you'd likely adopt Islamic values etc. The point is that values vary and although some people might like it to be so, personal values do not necessarily correlate with objective moral behaviours.
I have noticed that some users in this forum have dogmatic personal values that they would like to impose onto everyone else. @Outcast9428 is a member that springs to mind in particular. This is a guy who conflates his own values of traditionalism with an objective standard of morality, even though those values imposed on everyone would impede upon the autonomy of others. And as I've already pointed out, autonomy is one of the principles of universal ethics.
It's important to make a distinction between subjective values and objective moral ethics, otherwise you make yourself look foolish.
My core values are:
Universal Freedom!
Uncompromising freedom where people are free to live their lives authentically according to their own personal values. This includes not pushing the trans agenda onto children and manipulating people to adopt certain philosophies or behaviours. It means letting people learn facts for themselves and carve their own path through life without having the values of someone else imposed upon them, which in my opinion is immoral. Respecting the autonomy of others and not imposing on the freedom of others is moral behaviour. Forcing people to live in accordance with your own values is immoral behaviour.
Loyalty
It's important to be loyal to your family, lover and friends. When people place their faith and trust into you it is important that you do not betray their trust by being disloyal. Cheating on your partner, sleeping with a friend's wife or stealing from family and friends etc are all objectively immoral behaviours! Most societies around the world hold these values.
Integrity
Being true to one's self. Being honest and having strong moral principles and values. Not compromising for unreasonable edicts passed down from assholes who want to force their values onto you. Integrity comes from a position of strength! @Tsar is someone whom I think has integrity! He has his standards and will not compromise for anyone, including arbitrary laws set by enemies with values hostile to the well-being of regular citizens.
Discipline
Things like martial arts are a discipline. It is a set of expectations for yourself and for others and the force used to enforce them. Self defence for example is a perfect way of looking at this. You have a standard and the discipline not to go out and attack random people, you expect that same behaviour from others, but there will always be nobheads out there who want to cause shit for no reason. In that case it is important to be able to defend yourself. @Lucas88 is someone who understands and most definitely shares this core value of mine.
Compassion
A society which lacks passion and becomes solipsistic becomes a cold society void of love and loyalty. Compassion is not a weakness, it is a virtue. But even though some people would like to be more compassionate I do believe someone in a position of personal strength should know when to be compassionate and show sympathy and forgiveness, and when someone in a position of strength should say enough is enough so as not to be taken advantage of.
Wisdom
The acquisition of knowledge and wisdom and its dissemination is one of my core values. A society which enforces a system of strict conformity with facts being cancelled or censored is a hostile environment for free thinking individuals. Philosophy and various philosophical works serve as a basis for much enlightened thinking and wisdom. I have learned more about life from the study of philosophy than I ever did in the "education system" of the state.
Creativity
Creativity and the freedom to express yourself however you choose is a core value of mine. I like to be creative and write my own stories and such. Some people like art, some people like music. Many people have their own creative outlets. This is something which adds to society and its development. I don't think my life would be very interesting at all without any creative interests.
Spirituality
Spirituality is one of my core values. This is the most important thing. Realising my own personal power and the fact that humanity are little gods who got lost somewhere along the line. Spirituality is personal to everyone and has no life denying doctrines one is obligated to follow in order to obtain immortality in the afterlife.
Through Spirituality we strive for excellence instead of servile weak values imposed upon us from dogmatic religions which always espouse an "us vs them" mentality. Spirituality is something someone can experience through the use of psychedelics and astral projection and even mediumship to a degree.
These are some of my core values! So what do you think? And what are your own personal core values?
Another thing I wanted to talk about was the nuances of morality. I've also noticed that a lot of users around here tend not to be very nuanced or even understand nuanced thinking. Let's dive in a little deeper and see how even objective moral behaviours can also have their nuances.
We'll go with the obvious one, most laws and religions espouse that it is wrong to kill. Religion and morals are often conflated. Arbitrary laws and objective morality are also conflated. And this is just because these things also include "thou shalt not kill" and things we all recognise as objective morality. So I'm sure if we are all honest we could say without much contention that murdering another human being without provocation or reason is objectively wrong.
This is where the nuanced thinking comes into play:
What about killing another human in self defence?
If someone attacks you or a loved one would you not fight to defend yourself and the ones you love? In my opinion it is immoral not to.
What about killing another human out of mercy?
My grandfather stubbornly clung to life for weeks before he expired. He was in a hospital bed with tubes sticking out of him not knowing where he was or anything as he slowly wasted away. I remember asking myself why we are keeping him alive? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if he just died, including himself? Of course it would! As a society our lack of nuanced thinking conflates not killing people with moral behaviours and as a result people are forced to continue living despite having no quality of life whatsoever.
If my own father is in this position I would put a bubble I one of those tubes and kill him myself, seeing it as the moral thing to do since his life is already effectively over anyway.
Killing humans is just an example. But there are always nuances in everything. It's just that sometimes people either can't see them as their brains are incapable of advanced consideration of possible nuances, or they just ignore such nuances because this does not support their own dogmatic way of viewing the world.
Ethics is a branch of knowledge which deals with moral principles, they are something that is consistent, such as ethical medical practices for example or the universal ethic of not killing another human being. So we could argue that certain ethics are universally tied with a sense of objective morality. Something we all know is right or wrong with no middle ground etc.
Beneficence, nonmaleficence, autonomy, and justice constitute the four principles of ethics. The first two can be traced back to the time of Hippocrates “to help and do no harm,” while the latter 2 evolved later.
This is why I was so opposed to the vaccine being mandated and pushed onto everyone else. It was an infraction against personal autonomy, which is supposed to be one of the many fundamental principles of medicine. What do you think of this @Cornfed? This should be the only argument necessary to not take a vaccine. Aside from the fact it is poisonous and will kill you or make you a vax zombie.
Values differ from person to person and are usually adopted from the culture the individual grew up in. For example if you grow up in a Christian society, your values are likely to be Christian values or traditionalist values. In a Muslim country you'd likely adopt Islamic values etc. The point is that values vary and although some people might like it to be so, personal values do not necessarily correlate with objective moral behaviours.
I have noticed that some users in this forum have dogmatic personal values that they would like to impose onto everyone else. @Outcast9428 is a member that springs to mind in particular. This is a guy who conflates his own values of traditionalism with an objective standard of morality, even though those values imposed on everyone would impede upon the autonomy of others. And as I've already pointed out, autonomy is one of the principles of universal ethics.
It's important to make a distinction between subjective values and objective moral ethics, otherwise you make yourself look foolish.
My core values are:
Universal Freedom!
Uncompromising freedom where people are free to live their lives authentically according to their own personal values. This includes not pushing the trans agenda onto children and manipulating people to adopt certain philosophies or behaviours. It means letting people learn facts for themselves and carve their own path through life without having the values of someone else imposed upon them, which in my opinion is immoral. Respecting the autonomy of others and not imposing on the freedom of others is moral behaviour. Forcing people to live in accordance with your own values is immoral behaviour.
Loyalty
It's important to be loyal to your family, lover and friends. When people place their faith and trust into you it is important that you do not betray their trust by being disloyal. Cheating on your partner, sleeping with a friend's wife or stealing from family and friends etc are all objectively immoral behaviours! Most societies around the world hold these values.
Integrity
Being true to one's self. Being honest and having strong moral principles and values. Not compromising for unreasonable edicts passed down from assholes who want to force their values onto you. Integrity comes from a position of strength! @Tsar is someone whom I think has integrity! He has his standards and will not compromise for anyone, including arbitrary laws set by enemies with values hostile to the well-being of regular citizens.
Discipline
Things like martial arts are a discipline. It is a set of expectations for yourself and for others and the force used to enforce them. Self defence for example is a perfect way of looking at this. You have a standard and the discipline not to go out and attack random people, you expect that same behaviour from others, but there will always be nobheads out there who want to cause shit for no reason. In that case it is important to be able to defend yourself. @Lucas88 is someone who understands and most definitely shares this core value of mine.
Compassion
A society which lacks passion and becomes solipsistic becomes a cold society void of love and loyalty. Compassion is not a weakness, it is a virtue. But even though some people would like to be more compassionate I do believe someone in a position of personal strength should know when to be compassionate and show sympathy and forgiveness, and when someone in a position of strength should say enough is enough so as not to be taken advantage of.
Wisdom
The acquisition of knowledge and wisdom and its dissemination is one of my core values. A society which enforces a system of strict conformity with facts being cancelled or censored is a hostile environment for free thinking individuals. Philosophy and various philosophical works serve as a basis for much enlightened thinking and wisdom. I have learned more about life from the study of philosophy than I ever did in the "education system" of the state.
Creativity
Creativity and the freedom to express yourself however you choose is a core value of mine. I like to be creative and write my own stories and such. Some people like art, some people like music. Many people have their own creative outlets. This is something which adds to society and its development. I don't think my life would be very interesting at all without any creative interests.
Spirituality
Spirituality is one of my core values. This is the most important thing. Realising my own personal power and the fact that humanity are little gods who got lost somewhere along the line. Spirituality is personal to everyone and has no life denying doctrines one is obligated to follow in order to obtain immortality in the afterlife.
Through Spirituality we strive for excellence instead of servile weak values imposed upon us from dogmatic religions which always espouse an "us vs them" mentality. Spirituality is something someone can experience through the use of psychedelics and astral projection and even mediumship to a degree.
These are some of my core values! So what do you think? And what are your own personal core values?
Another thing I wanted to talk about was the nuances of morality. I've also noticed that a lot of users around here tend not to be very nuanced or even understand nuanced thinking. Let's dive in a little deeper and see how even objective moral behaviours can also have their nuances.
We'll go with the obvious one, most laws and religions espouse that it is wrong to kill. Religion and morals are often conflated. Arbitrary laws and objective morality are also conflated. And this is just because these things also include "thou shalt not kill" and things we all recognise as objective morality. So I'm sure if we are all honest we could say without much contention that murdering another human being without provocation or reason is objectively wrong.
This is where the nuanced thinking comes into play:
What about killing another human in self defence?
If someone attacks you or a loved one would you not fight to defend yourself and the ones you love? In my opinion it is immoral not to.
What about killing another human out of mercy?
My grandfather stubbornly clung to life for weeks before he expired. He was in a hospital bed with tubes sticking out of him not knowing where he was or anything as he slowly wasted away. I remember asking myself why we are keeping him alive? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if he just died, including himself? Of course it would! As a society our lack of nuanced thinking conflates not killing people with moral behaviours and as a result people are forced to continue living despite having no quality of life whatsoever.
If my own father is in this position I would put a bubble I one of those tubes and kill him myself, seeing it as the moral thing to do since his life is already effectively over anyway.
Killing humans is just an example. But there are always nuances in everything. It's just that sometimes people either can't see them as their brains are incapable of advanced consideration of possible nuances, or they just ignore such nuances because this does not support their own dogmatic way of viewing the world.