Schopenhauer on the Suffering, Misery, and Vanity of Existence

[Winston]

Here also is a reading of Arthur Schopenhauer's essay about the vanity of existence and the truth about the human condition. It's pretty sad, but deep and true. A lot of what he says about human suffering is similar to Buddhism. Not surprisingly, he studied Buddhism and Eastern Philosophy too. If you are an optimist, you will not like this one.

The more you listen to him, the more it seems like pessimism contains a lot more truth about life than optimism, and that optimism is just an illusion that people need to go on living and have hope. He says that hope is mostly an illusion that helps people cope with the emptiness of life. I love what he says about how people are always living for future reward or long for the past, and always see the present as an interim. So true.

[Wolfeye]

There's a few things that occur in philosophy. Take that question "What is the meaning of life?" It occurs to me that the question is perhaps a bit incongruent to the situation. It implies that life is a task to be accomplished, but it isn't. So now it's a "carrot on a stick" situation- someone keeps looking for the answer to a question that doesn't apply.

After that there is the problem of ratiocination. Whenever someone says "life isn"t ___" someone else always says "Well, then what is it?" It's like they're trying to find something to mindlessly follow, instead of actively engaging in living & making situational decisions.

Another point is that something doesn't nesessarily have be articulated to be grasped.

[Winston]

Here is a reading of Schopenhauer's "On The Sufferings of the World". Again, it's very deep and philosophical but pessimistic. If you are looking for something "feel good" and positive, you may want to avoid this.

[Winston]

The great pessimistic German philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer, wrote about how most people never enjoy the present moment, or "the now" as Eckhart Tolle popularized in "The Power of Now".

"We look upon the present as something to be put up with while it lasts, and serving only as the way towards our goal. Hence most people, if they glance back when they come to the end of life, will find that all along they have been living ad interim: they will be surprised to find that the very thing they disregarded and let slip by unenjoyed, was just the life in the expectation of which they passed all their time."
- Arthur Schopenhauer, "The Wisdom of Life"

"Optimism is truly a wicked way of thinking, for it mocks the unspeakable suffering of humanity."
- Arthur Schopenhauer, "The World as Will and Idea"

Schopenhauer's general view is summed up thus: Life is hell. Try to find a room furthest from the flames.

[Wolfeye]

The first quote was good & I partially agree with the second. The idea at the end seems a bit Hobbsian & I don't agree with that- just because there IS adversity & death doesn't make it the "rhythm of reality." Seems even the cynics aren't big on accuracy, they prefer a "wind-up toy" style when it comes to philosophical/ontological assessments- they just go in the opposite direction of the optimists.

[Adama]

I think the Book of Ecclesiastes would come in handy here.

[Eric]

I think the Book of Ecclesiastes would come in handy here.

I was going to say something like that. Nice one.

[Winston]

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/809726 ... hat-is-the

“There is only one inborn error, and that is the notion that we exist in order to be happy... So long as we persist in this inborn error... the world seems to us full of contradictions. For at every step, in things great and small, we are bound to experience that the world and life are certainly not arranged for the purpose of maintaining a happy existence... hence the countenances of almost all elderly persons wear the expression of what is called disappointment.”

― Arthur Schopenhauer

[Winston]

https://academyofideas.com/2013/12/arth ... er-quotes/

The Misery of Life

“What occupies all living things and keeps them in movement is striving for existence. With existence, however, when it is assured them, they have no idea what to do. Therefore, the second thing that sets them into movement is striving to be rid of the burden of existence, to render oneself insensible to it, to “kill time”, i.e., to escape boredom.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“Accordingly, happiness lies always in the future, or else in the past, and the present may be compared to a small dark cloud driven by the wind over the sunny plain; in front of and behind the cloud everything is bright, only it itself always casts a shadow.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“Life is deeply steeped in suffering, and cannot escape from it; our entrance into it takes place amid tears, at bottom its course is always tragic, and its end is even more so.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“The wish is, in its nature, pain; the attainment soon begets satiety: the end was only apparent, possession takes away the charm; the wish, the need, presents itself under a new form; when it does not, there follows desolateness, emptiness, ennui, against which the conflict is just as painful as against want.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“For whence did Dante get the material for his hell, if not from this actual world of ours?” (The World as Will and Representation)

“The striving we see everywhere hindered in many ways, everywhere in conflict, and therefore always under the form of suffering. Thus, if there is no final end of striving, there is no measure and end of suffering.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“…it is easy to explain that man loves above everything else an existence which is full of want, misery, trouble, pain, anxiety, and then again full of boredom, and which, where it pondered over and considered purely objectively, he would of necessity abhor; and that he fears above everything else the end of this existence, which is nevertheless for him the one and only thing certain. Accordingly, we often seem miserable figure, deformed and bent with age, want, and disease, appeal to us from the bottom of his heart for help for the prolongation of existence whose end would necessarily appear as altogether desirable if it was an objective judgment that was the determining factor.” (The World and Will and Representation)

“There is only one inborn error, and that is, that we exist in order to be happy.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“The basis of all willing is need, lack, and hence pain, and by its very nature and origin it is therefore destined to pain. If, on the other hand, it lacks objects of willing, because it is at once deprived of them again by too easy a satisfaction, a fearful emptiness and boredom comes over it; in other words, its being and its existence itself becomes an intolerable burden for it. Hence life swings like pendulum to and fro between pain and boredom, and these two are in fact it has ultimate constituents.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“Suffering is essential to life, and therefore does not flow in upon us from outside, but everyone carries around within himself its perennial source.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“If suffering is not the first and immediate object of our life, then our existence is the most inexpedient and inappropriate thing in the world.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“Life itself is a sea full of rocks and whirlpools that man avoids with the greatest caution and care, although he knows that, even when he succeeds with all his efforts and ingenuity in struggling through, at every step he comes nearer to the greatest, the total, the inevitable and irremediable shipwreck, indeed even steers right on to it, namely death. This is the final goal of the wearisome voyage, and is worse for him than all the rocks that he has avoided.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“In the first place, no one is happy, but everyone throughout his life strives for an alleged happiness that is rarely attained, and even then only to disappoint him. As a rule, everyone ultimately reaches port with masts and rigging gone; but then it immaterial whether he was happy or unhappy in a life which consisted merely of a fleeting vanishing present and is now over and finished.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“Behind need and want is to be found at once boredom, which attacks even the more intelligent animals. This is a consequence of the fact that life has no genuine intrinsic worth, but is kept in motion merely by want and illusion. But as soon as this comes to a standstill, the utter barrenness and emptiness of existence becomes apparent.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“On the other hand, the present is accepted only for the time being, is set at naught, and looked upon merely as the path to the goal. Thus when at the end of their lives most men look back, they will find that they have lived throughout ad interim; they will be surprised to see that the very thing they allowed to slip by unappreciated and unenjoyed was just their life, precisely that in the expectation of which they lived. And so the course of a man’s life is, as a rule, such that, having been duped by hope, he dances into the arms of death.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“We are like lambs playing in the field, while the butcher eyes them and selects first one and then another; for in our good days we do not know what calamity fate at this very moment has in store for us, sickness, persecution, impoverishment, mutilation, loss of sight, madness, death, and so on.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“The world is just a hell and in it human beings are the tortured souls on the one hand, and the devils on the other.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“In early youth we sit before the impending course of our life like children at the theatre before the curtain is raised, who sit there in happy and excited expectation of the things that are to come. It is a blessing that we do not know what will actually come. For to the man who knows, the children may at times appear to be like innocent delinquents who are condemned not to death, it is true, but to life and have not yet grasped the purport of their sentence. Nevertheless everyone wants to reach old age and thus to a state of life, whereof it may be said: ‘It is bad today and every day it will get worse, until the world of all happens.”(Parerga and Paralipomena)

“Life presents itself primarily as a task, namely that of gaining a livelihood…When this problem is solved, what has been gained is a burden, and there comes the second problem of how to dispose of what we have got in order to ward off boredom. Like a bird of prey on the watch, this evil pounces on every life that has been made secure. The first problem, therefore, is to acquire something and the second is to prevent it from making itself felt after it has been acquired, otherwise it is a burden.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“We can also regard our life as a uselessly disturbing episode in the blissful repose of nothingness. At all events even the man who has fared tolerably well, becomes more clearly aware, the longer he lives, that life on the whole is a disappointment, nay a cheat, in other words, bears the character of a great mystification or even a fraud. When two men who were friends in their youth meet again after the separation of a lifetime, the feeling uppermost in their minds when they see each other, in that it recalls old times, is one of complete disappointment with the whole of life.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“Work, worry, toil, and trouble are certainly the lot of almost all throughout their lives. But if all desires were fulfilled as soon as they arose, how then would people occupy their lives and spend their time? Suppose the human race were removed to Utopia where everything grew automatically and pigeons flew about ready roasted; where everyone at once found his sweetheart and had no difficulty in keeping her; then people would die of boredom or hang themselves; or else they would fight, throttle, and murder one another and so cause themselves more suffering than is now laid upon them by nature.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“If we attempt to take in at a glance the whole world of humanity, we see everywhere a restless struggle, a vast contest for life and existence, with the fullest exertion of bodily and mental powers, in face of dangers and evils of every kind which threaten and strike at any moment. If we then consider the reward for all this, namely existence and life itself, we find some intervals of painless existence which are at once attacked by boredom and rapidly brought to an end by a new affliction.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

“Now we take no delight in our existence except in striving for something when the distance and obstacles make us think that the goal will be satisfactory, an illusion that vanishes when it is reached.” (Parerga and Paralipomena)

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The Enigma of Existence

“…undoubtedly it is the knowledge of death, and therewith the consideration of the suffering and misery of life, that give the strongest impulse to philosophical reflection and metaphysical explanations of the world.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“If our life were without end and free from pain, it would possibly not occur to anyone to ask why the world exists, and why it does so in precisely this way, but everything would be taken purely as a matter of course.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“For if anything in the world is desirable, so desirable that even the dull and uneducated herd in its more reflective moments would value it more than silver and gold, it is that a ray of light should fall on the obscurity of our existence, and that we should obtain some information about this enigmatical life of ours, in which nothing is clear except its misery and vanity.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“The lower a man is in an intellectual respect, the less puzzling and mysterious existence itself is to him; on the contrary, everything, how it is and that it is, seems to him a matter of course.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“Hence, as we have said above, it is wickedness, evil, and death that qualify and intensify philosophical astonishment. Not merely that the world exists, but still more that it is such a miserable and melancholy world, is the tormenting problem of metaphysics, the problem awakening in mankind an unrest that cannot be quieted either by scepticism or criticism.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“In endless space countless luminous spheres, round each of which some dozen smaller illuminated ones revolve, hot at the core and covered over with a hard cold crust; on this crust a mouldy film has produced living and knowing beings: this is empirical truth, the real, the world. Yet for a being who thinks, it is a precarious position to stand on one of those numberless spheres freely floating in boundless space, without knowing whence or whither, and to be only one of innumerable similar beings that throng, press, and toil, restlessly and rapidly arising and passing away in beginningless and endless time.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“For the necessary starting point for all genuine philosophy is the deep feeling of the Socratic: “This one thing I know, that I know nothing.”” (The World as Will and Representation)

“By metaphysics I understand all knowledge that pretends to transcend the possibility of experience, thus to transcend nature or the given phenomenal appearance of things, in order to give an explanation of that by which , in some sense or other, this experience of nature is conditioned; or, to speak in popular language, of that which is behind nature, and makes it possible.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“With the exception of man, no being wonders at its own existence; but it is to them all so much a matter of course that they do not observe it. The wisdom of nature speaks of the peaceful glance of the brutes; for in them the will and the intellect are not yet so widely separated that they can be astonished at each other when they meet again. Only after the inner being of nature (the will to live in its objectification) has ascended, vigorous and cheerful, through the two series of unconscious existences, and then through the long and broad series of animals, does it attain at last to reflection for the first time on the entrance of reason, thus in man. Then it marvels at its own works, and asks itself what it itself is. Its wonder however is the more serious, as it here stands for the first time consciously in the presence of death, and besides the finiteness of all existence, the vanity of all effort forces itself more or less upon it. With this reflection and this wonder there arises therefore for man alone, the need for a metaphysic; he is accordingly an animal metaphysicum.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“I turn to a general consideration of the other kind of metaphysics, that which has its authentication in itself, and is called philosophy. I remind the reader of its previously mentioned origin from a wonder or astonishment about the world and our own existence, since these obtrude themselves on the intellect as a riddle, whose solution then occupies mankind without intermission.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“…the astonishment which leads us to philosophize clearly springs from the sight of the suffering and the wickedness in the world, which , even if they were in the most just proportion to each other, and also were far outweighed by good, are yet something which absolutely and in general ought not to be.” (The World as Will and Representation)

“Only to the animal lacking thoughts or ideas do the world and existence appear to be a matter of course. To man, on the contrary, they are a problem, of which even the most uncultured and narrow-minded person is at certain more lucid moments vividly aware, but which enters the more distinctly and permanently into everyone’s consciousness, the brighter and more reflective that consciousness is, and the more material for thinking he has acquired through culture.” (The World as Will and Representation)

[Winston]

Schopenhauer video on how to reduce suffering and misery in life without having to be a monk or ascetic, which most people cannot do.

[Winston]

Schopenhauer explains the surest way out of human misery.

[Winston]

Comment I posted on the German self help philosophy channel above:

"What about the solution of getting out of America to live in a country with more freedom, social connection, fun, flirtatious women, and lower cost of living, such as Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, SE Asia, Latin America, Russia, etc? I have experienced this for many years and it is a REAL solution to misery in America. Why does no one in the self help movement ever talk about this including the guy who runs this channel? Why do you all act like the option of leaving America doesn't exist when in fact 5 million Americans live abroad? Why am I the only one who sees such obvious things? Are you all just a computer program or NPC? Am I in a dream or simulation and the only real person in the simulation?"