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Moretorque wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 7:35 pm
They never went to the moon, a MOVIE fake is only a tiny fraction of the going there in price. They could not get there in less than 10 years so they faked it and it was a good test to see if they could dupe everybody. I must admit I fell for it and realize how stupid I was. There is no way the lunar lander could have taken those men to the surface and got them back alive. That was a very POOR prop. By the way the earth is actually square.
Has this been a recent epiphany?
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Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 9:00 pm
Moretorque wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 7:35 pm
They never went to the moon, a MOVIE fake is only a tiny fraction of the going there in price. They could not get there in less than 10 years so they faked it and it was a good test to see if they could dupe everybody. I must admit I fell for it and realize how stupid I was. There is no way the lunar lander could have taken those men to the surface and got them back alive. That was a very POOR prop. By the way the earth is actually square.
Has this been a recent epiphany?
I studied it like well over a decade ago and when you do you realize how hard space travel is to keep people alive out there. The Moon is like 250 degrees in the day and like -250 just in the shade during the day and that is only dealing with the wild temperature swings not factoring in any type of life support or cosmic radiation. The entire thing was a complete joke but us dummies are dummies so they do this stuff and laugh. Humanity is becoming so stupid so fast they may still be able to pull this thing off even though some people are realizing what idiots we have all been believing the BooB TUBE!
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 12:51 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
I think @Cornfed answered this adequately enough. These people are renowned liars and self serving cretins. Why would you not question everything they tell you? All they ever do is lie and steal from us and try to murder us with mandated poison vaccines.

If these people were transparent and trustworthy and respectable leaders who had the best interests of the people they govern at heart then things like conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist.

The government, massive corporations like NASA and Big Pharma, they're all self serving, lying assholes! Everyone should be skeptical of anything they say.
Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 11:13 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:27 am
Watch this video. It looks fake as f**k! I tip my hat to the brace astronaut who sacrificed his life to be left behind and make the video of the shuttle taking off :lol: when do you think they will pick him back up?
The people in the comments are stating the obvious. You can kind of excuse people at the time without the benefit of replays and such for thinking that this obvious hoax was legit, a bit like people in the 30s might have thought King Kong was real if it were claimed to be, but what excuse does anyone in the current year have?
In my opinion extreme stupidity, cognitive dissonance and ignorance are no longer acceptable as an excuse, particularly when the nefarious nature of government officials, Zionist Jews and massive corporations have been exposed time and time again.
What that means I guess is you do not believe the fights between the West and Russia for centuries were not real?

Tell us what is obvious. Is the Manhattan project fake because it was not transparent? Nuclear energy is fake because it sounds like magic? Why don't you believe the earth is flat? It obviously looks flat.
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galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:10 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 12:51 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
I think @Cornfed answered this adequately enough. These people are renowned liars and self serving cretins. Why would you not question everything they tell you? All they ever do is lie and steal from us and try to murder us with mandated poison vaccines.

If these people were transparent and trustworthy and respectable leaders who had the best interests of the people they govern at heart then things like conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist.

The government, massive corporations like NASA and Big Pharma, they're all self serving, lying assholes! Everyone should be skeptical of anything they say.
Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 11:13 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:27 am
Watch this video. It looks fake as f**k! I tip my hat to the brace astronaut who sacrificed his life to be left behind and make the video of the shuttle taking off :lol: when do you think they will pick him back up?
The people in the comments are stating the obvious. You can kind of excuse people at the time without the benefit of replays and such for thinking that this obvious hoax was legit, a bit like people in the 30s might have thought King Kong was real if it were claimed to be, but what excuse does anyone in the current year have?
In my opinion extreme stupidity, cognitive dissonance and ignorance are no longer acceptable as an excuse, particularly when the nefarious nature of government officials, Zionist Jews and massive corporations have been exposed time and time again.
What that means I guess is you do not believe the fights between the West and Russia for centuries were not real?

Tell us what is obvious. Is the Manhattan project fake because it was not transparent? Nuclear energy is fake because it sounds like magic? Why don't you believe the earth is flat? It obviously looks flat.
From some of the reading I have done they were saying Russia needed America way more than America needed Russia. They were receiving so much from the US and realized the moon landings were fake but shut up because it served them to do so, you have to remember the same people who control America's money supply control the Soviet Unions as well and they said SHUT UP if you want to eat.
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Moretorque wrote:
May 12th, 2023, 8:15 am
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:10 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 12:51 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
I think @Cornfed answered this adequately enough. These people are renowned liars and self serving cretins. Why would you not question everything they tell you? All they ever do is lie and steal from us and try to murder us with mandated poison vaccines.

If these people were transparent and trustworthy and respectable leaders who had the best interests of the people they govern at heart then things like conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist.

The government, massive corporations like NASA and Big Pharma, they're all self serving, lying assholes! Everyone should be skeptical of anything they say.
Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 11:13 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:27 am
Watch this video. It looks fake as f**k! I tip my hat to the brace astronaut who sacrificed his life to be left behind and make the video of the shuttle taking off :lol: when do you think they will pick him back up?
The people in the comments are stating the obvious. You can kind of excuse people at the time without the benefit of replays and such for thinking that this obvious hoax was legit, a bit like people in the 30s might have thought King Kong was real if it were claimed to be, but what excuse does anyone in the current year have?
In my opinion extreme stupidity, cognitive dissonance and ignorance are no longer acceptable as an excuse, particularly when the nefarious nature of government officials, Zionist Jews and massive corporations have been exposed time and time again.
What that means I guess is you do not believe the fights between the West and Russia for centuries were not real?

Tell us what is obvious. Is the Manhattan project fake because it was not transparent? Nuclear energy is fake because it sounds like magic? Why don't you believe the earth is flat? It obviously looks flat.
From some of the reading I have done they were saying Russia needed America way more than America needed Russia. They were receiving so much from the US and realized the moon landings were fake but shut up because it served them to do so, you have to remember the same people who control America's money supply control the Soviet Unions as well and they said SHUT UP if you want to eat.
So basically in Afghanistan Russian soldiers died because of US weapons but Russians rather shut up because they were hungry and got their food from the US. Right. Very logical.

The US did rather fake moonlanding and make the Russians cover it up than destroy Russia and become the only superpower as fast as possible.

Very logical.

Btw there is the case where West Germany gave money to East Germany and gave them secret chip technology too but that was an other issue.
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galii wrote:
May 12th, 2023, 9:39 am

So basically in Afghanistan Russian soldiers died because of US weapons but Russians rather shut up because they were hungry and got their food from the US. Right. Very logical.

The US did rather fake moonlanding and make the Russians cover it up than destroy Russia and become the only superpower as fast as possible.

Very logical.
Yes, it is well know that the West gave massive aid to the USSR for the course of its existence and never had sanctions against it while the USSR was arming people to kill Americans during Vietnam and such, so clearly the apparent conflict was mostly or entirely theater. This is obvious, right?
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Anybody who has not figured out communism is nothing more than a counterfeiting con job you are STUPID..! The 1792 coinage act for America states anybody counterfeiting or debasing a currency is to be put to death, the sheep are soooo dumb and the ruling class out of Europe figured this out centuries ago. Most people are meant to be slaves from their own stupidity.

Read Alan Greenspan's Gold and Economic Freedom for starters..
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galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:10 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 12:51 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
I think @Cornfed answered this adequately enough. These people are renowned liars and self serving cretins. Why would you not question everything they tell you? All they ever do is lie and steal from us and try to murder us with mandated poison vaccines.

If these people were transparent and trustworthy and respectable leaders who had the best interests of the people they govern at heart then things like conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist.

The government, massive corporations like NASA and Big Pharma, they're all self serving, lying assholes! Everyone should be skeptical of anything they say.
Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 11:13 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:27 am
Watch this video. It looks fake as f**k! I tip my hat to the brace astronaut who sacrificed his life to be left behind and make the video of the shuttle taking off :lol: when do you think they will pick him back up?
The people in the comments are stating the obvious. You can kind of excuse people at the time without the benefit of replays and such for thinking that this obvious hoax was legit, a bit like people in the 30s might have thought King Kong was real if it were claimed to be, but what excuse does anyone in the current year have?
In my opinion extreme stupidity, cognitive dissonance and ignorance are no longer acceptable as an excuse, particularly when the nefarious nature of government officials, Zionist Jews and massive corporations have been exposed time and time again.
What that means I guess is you do not believe the fights between the West and Russia for centuries were not real?

Tell us what is obvious. Is the Manhattan project fake because it was not transparent? Nuclear energy is fake because it sounds like magic? Why don't you believe the earth is flat? It obviously looks flat.
Go research Radar as far as the earth being flat, why is the radar placed high on a ship? why was the look out placed as high as possible on a ship before Radar? Why in WW2 did they want Radar for their scout plans as soon as possible? Why did they invent Cruise Missiles?

Nuclear weapons are real, My step father worked on nuclear bomb design and detection for many years at Los-Alamos..
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Cornfed wrote:
May 12th, 2023, 1:28 pm
galii wrote:
May 12th, 2023, 9:39 am

So basically in Afghanistan Russian soldiers died because of US weapons but Russians rather shut up because they were hungry and got their food from the US. Right. Very logical.

The US did rather fake moonlanding and make the Russians cover it up than destroy Russia and become the only superpower as fast as possible.

Very logical.
Yes, it is well know that the West gave massive aid to the USSR for the course of its existence and never had sanctions against it while the USSR was arming people to kill Americans during Vietnam and such, so clearly the apparent conflict was mostly or entirely theater. This is obvious, right?
What kind of aid? Or was it rather trade?

By your logic the war between Ukraine and Russia is theater as well.
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Moretorque wrote:
May 12th, 2023, 2:52 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:10 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 12:51 pm
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
I think @Cornfed answered this adequately enough. These people are renowned liars and self serving cretins. Why would you not question everything they tell you? All they ever do is lie and steal from us and try to murder us with mandated poison vaccines.

If these people were transparent and trustworthy and respectable leaders who had the best interests of the people they govern at heart then things like conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist.

The government, massive corporations like NASA and Big Pharma, they're all self serving, lying assholes! Everyone should be skeptical of anything they say.
Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 11:13 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:27 am
Watch this video. It looks fake as f**k! I tip my hat to the brace astronaut who sacrificed his life to be left behind and make the video of the shuttle taking off :lol: when do you think they will pick him back up?
The people in the comments are stating the obvious. You can kind of excuse people at the time without the benefit of replays and such for thinking that this obvious hoax was legit, a bit like people in the 30s might have thought King Kong was real if it were claimed to be, but what excuse does anyone in the current year have?
In my opinion extreme stupidity, cognitive dissonance and ignorance are no longer acceptable as an excuse, particularly when the nefarious nature of government officials, Zionist Jews and massive corporations have been exposed time and time again.
What that means I guess is you do not believe the fights between the West and Russia for centuries were not real?

Tell us what is obvious. Is the Manhattan project fake because it was not transparent? Nuclear energy is fake because it sounds like magic? Why don't you believe the earth is flat? It obviously looks flat.
Go research Radar as far as the earth being flat, why is the radar placed high on a ship? why was the look out placed as high as possible on a ship before Radar? Why in WW2 did they want Radar for their scout plans as soon as possible? Why did they invent Cruise Missiles?

Nuclear weapons are real, My step father worked on nuclear bomb design and detection for many years at Los-Alamos..
Oh you actually believe the earth is flat. Radar technology is a not easy to understand. I would need time to get into it but why didn't you post in the flat earth thread? I did write quite a bit there. There are low cost ways to prove or disprove that the earth is round. If you are such a critique you should put in the effort.

So you basically believe your step father. So you would not be able to figure it out yourself if he didn't tell you that?
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Cornfed wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:48 am
galii wrote:
May 11th, 2023, 10:45 am
Ever wondered why the Russians and all the others believed it when it is so obvious?
They go along with the bullshit the same way they go along with fractional reserve banking and such. They are in on it, derive benefits themselves, receive payoffs and are attacked if they step out of line.
Most Russians today do not believe the moon landing was real. The Soviet government did not expose it because the US and USSR collude together at some level and compete at some level too. They both have dirt on each other which they use as leverage. Moreover, the US was shipping wheat to Russia so Russia didn't want to bite the hand that fed it. Also the world is under a one world government already and has been for some time, they just haven't officially announced it yet.

Jarrah White already explained why the Soviet government went along with the hoax in his Moonfaker FAQs:

http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html

Q: Why did the Russians remain silent?
A: Jarrah can see three reasons.

Firstly, if you really want to know what Russia thought of manned lunar exploration, just ask Jodrell Bank’s Sir Bernard Lovell. In May of 1963, the President of the Soviet Academy of Sciences Mstislav Keldysh instructed him to inform NASA’s deputy administrator Hugh Dryden that Russian had to postpone manned moon flights indefinitely, because they could see no way to protect their cosmonauts from the insurmountable dangers posed by solar flare radiation3, 4, 5, 6. Well into 1966, around the time Russia put Lunik 10 in lunar orbit, Sir Bernard remained in contact with the Soviets asking when they intended to send a human to the moon.

In 1999, Sir Bernard was quoted by the BBC along these lines: “I had frequently asked my Soviet contacts when they intended to send a human being to the moon and their response was always ‘when we can be absolutely certain of getting him back alive’. And they did not believe the Americans would do this and in fact it’s pretty clear that the Americans did take considerable risk.”

Well into December 1968, Alexei Leonov and his comrades pleaded the politburo to let them pilot Zond 7 around the moon, as the Zonds 5 & 6 had already flown around the moon and returned to earth in September and November of that year – the former of which was successfully recovered. But their pleas were rejected despite having proven their capabilities with Zond 5.

Jarrah believes that Russia may likely have planned to fake their manned moon flights too. Aboard Zond 5 was an audio cassette player which played back the voices of cosmonauts Pavel Popevich and Vitali Sevastyanov7, 8, 9. At the time many thought Russia had sent the first men around the moon, but upon return of the capsule it was revealed that it was only a tape recording. NASA, who at the time weren’t officially planning a ‘manned’ moon mission until April or May 1969, responded to the tape recorder stunt by changing Apollo 8’s flight plan from a high earth orbit flight to a lunar orbit flight in December 1968.

Russia had the opportunity to claim victory over the Americans, but they let it slip through their fingers. But even if they were to cry foul on the Americans, it would only jeopardize their own program. If the USSR was to come out and say that Apollo was faked due to lethal radiation, the Americans would just as easily cry foul if the Soviets proceeded to fake their own for the same reason.

The second reason for their silence would be because of free trade deals. Since the Kennedy administration, the United States government and its allies had been selling tons of American wheat to the Soviets. It’s no different to modern times: the US cuts multi-billion dollar trade deals with the Chinese and in turn China gets kicked off America’s list of human rights violators, likewise Russia gets tons of wheat in return for silence.

Thirdly, nowadays the Russian and American space programs are partners in crime. In the early 70s the US and Soviets agreed to work cooperatively in the exploration of space. This international cooperation became a reality in 1975 with the Apollo Soyuz Test Project, the first joint mission. Many other missions followed and Russia essentially became the United States’ best ally. In the 1990s, with the Buran program cancelled, the Russians had no shuttle to get to their Mir space station, only Soyuz. And the US had no equivalent to Mir. The solution was the Shuttle-Mir program, in which US shuttles carried astronauts and cosmonauts to and from the Russian Mir space station. Now the US and Russia have collaborated towards the construction of the International Space Station, involving not only them but also every other space nation – except for the US’s best trade partner, the Chinese.

The Russians were also kind enough to give American astronauts a ride to space aboard the Soyuz during the time the shuttle was grounded. And with the termination of the shuttle program, the US will now be reliant on Russia’s Soyuz to get to the ISS. It’s essentially a one-world space government, one big happy family. No one will blow the whistle on anybody.
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Cornfed wrote:
May 9th, 2023, 7:52 pm
The former head of the Russian space agency is finally calling out the stupid moon landing hoax. Presumably only boomers still believe it anyway. Why haven't they called out all the other hoaxes? Because for the most part they are all in on them.

https://www.rt.com/russia/575937-roscos ... k816371644
True or not, the timing of Russia dropping this bombshell is suspicious to say the least... if anything, it shows the obvious desperation on the part of the Russki's as much as it exposes American trickery.
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This isn’t a new revelation for Russians, in fact it’s the older generations who commonly believe it the most. Most boomers and gen X’s in Russia will tell you “If we couldn’t walk on the moon the the US obviously didn’t”. It’s generally not based on any evidence, just Cold War propaganda and trying to save some national pride.

Note : Educated Russians don’t get their news from RT. They are smart enough to understand how the state propaganda machine works.
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May 15th, 2023, 1:00 pm
Note : Educated Russians don’t get their news from RT. They are smart enough to understand how the state propaganda machine works.
How many educated Russians even remain in Russia right now, like percentage-wise? Can't be that many...
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