Jeffery Epstein commits suicide...

[redfeather]

I bet the powerful people he had dirt on had him killed...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey ... urces.html

[Moretorque]

You hit it on the head, he had info that goes to the top.

You have to make sure there is a body...

[HouseMD]

"Commits suicide" my ass. He easily could've gotten a plea bargain by turning in any number of people that would have wanted him dead. He already did time before and didn't kill himself then, so why in the hell do people think he'd do it now?

[Moretorque]

Doc we should have you do the autopsy....

[gsjackson]

"Commits suicide" my ass. He easily could've gotten a plea bargain by turning in any number of people that would have wanted him dead. He already did time before and didn't kill himself then, so why in the hell do people think he'd do it now?

It wasn't hard time before -- 12 hours a day spent at his mansion six days a week, his own private section of the jail when there, a compliant media sweeping the story under the rug. But yeah -- little question he was offed, and no doubt substantial sums changed hands toward that end. The big question is why the Trump team allowed it to happen.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I think it is plausible that he committed suicide. He tried once before, and he had every reason to fear life as a convicted pedephile.

Corrections officers are about the least talented government employees you can find. Ineptitude is quite common in that sphere. And just because his cell was under camera surveillance, it does not mean that officers were watching those cameras closely.

If anything, there should be video evidence of the suicide in progress. If not, I would be much more skeptical.

But my vote is institutional ineptitude over some dark conspiracy.

[gsjackson]

The spin from Q Land, for anyone interested: The Trump people switched him out and removed him from the criminal justice process. Numerous observers have said that the nose on the body being carried away on a gurney was not Epstein's. An account purporting to be from the prison says a vehicle that wasn't registered at the prison showed up and took him somewhere at 4:30 a.m.

It's not like the elites themselves haven't pulled this sort of thing. I'll bet my last nickel that "Kenny Boy" Lay is living out his golden years on some island.

Skepticism warranted, of course, but if true and they do have him, is it torture time, do whatever is necessary to get out of him whatever evidence he has? Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Since he was running a Mossad honeypot, you know there's lots of video evidence out there somewhere, it's just a matter of who has it.

[redfeather]

I bet the guards were paid to malfunction the camera...
And presto...assisted suicide...
With two big guards choking him to death...assisted suicide...
Then when asked...what happened to him...we no see nothing...
They can still sue his estate, and lots of this dirty laundry will come out.

[Shemp]

Anyone powerful enough to kill Epstein in prison, and make it look like suicide, would have been able to do the same while he was at home, where it would look much less suspicious.

Anyone supremely powerful could simply have quashed the investigation.

If the Epstein investigation was because of a conflict among powerful groups, and these group are capable of killing people on prison and willing to engage in such illegal methods, you'd expect to see lots more assassinations in the USA, as in Russia in the 1990's, and/or lots setups of powerful people with fake accusations of child pornography on their computers, drugs, etc.

If Epstein was worried about being killed, he could have made a video of himself telling everything he knows and making names, then arranged to have this video widely distributed in event of his untimely demise. He might also have been collecting evidence all the years, precisely to blackmail powerful people in case of trouble, and he could also arrange to have that evidence made public. He could also have cut a deal with Russia if he had evidence that could be used to blackmail people in the government. The fact that Epstein did none of this suggests he either had no worries about being killed or was was very stupid/careless about protecting himself.

[Cornfed]

Anyone powerful enough to kill Epstein in prison, and make it look like suicide, would have been able to do the same while he was at home, where it would look much less suspicious.

Not necessarily because he was rich and could afford extensive security. There is also an advantage to having him killed in prison as it is apparent to anyone who is going to snitch that nowhere is safe.

[Zambales]

Anyone powerful enough to kill Epstein in prison, and make it look like suicide, would have been able to do the same while he was at home, where it would look much less suspicious.

Apparently the "dirt" was revealed the day before he committed suicide which suggests something very fishy.

[TD-40]

I doubt it was a suicide. I am hearing that the ceilings are only around 8 feet high and the sheets in those rooms are not strong enough to hold a 200 lb person. There are not enough instruments in those cells to carry this out, not even any bars in the ceilings or anything to even attach a sheet to. But they still have suicide watches for the inmates so there's still a lot that I/we don't know yet.

[Moretorque]

I wonder how people can be soooo stupid, were dealing with a mafia that counterfits money world wide. It is them VS the Trump people who are trying to take the country back from the creditor class and re-establish constitutional law.......

[HouseMD]

Believing Trump has your best interests in mind is insane. He is a businessman, and he only cares what will make him and his family money

[Moretorque]

Believing Trump has your best interests in mind is insane. He is a businessman, and he only cares what will make him and his family money

House there are people behind him trying to save the country, Trump loves America and believes in the founding documents. If you look at alot of what has been taking place behind the scenes it is a move toward constitutional law. It took them over a 100 years to completely turn America into a British communist dictatorship so it cannot be undone over night. The real ? is can the sheep figure all this out and all indicators are it is having much difficulty......

Trump hung a picture of Jackson on his office wall and that says alot about what they intended to do....