Mass Killing by Sexually Frustrated Young Man in California

[EnSabahNur]

This guy was cute & drove a BMW.....how could he not get laid? I don't understand it. I've seen girls give it up for guys driving damn Toyotas (no offence to any men driving Toyotas)

[jamesbond]

This guy was cute & drove a BMW.....how could he not get laid? I don't understand it. I've seen girls give it up for guys driving damn Toyotas (no offence to any men driving Toyotas)

There are guys in America who make a lot of money, drive nice cars, are in great physical shape, college educated, dress well and have good social skills and they even THEY can't meet women or get laid! WTF?

The only real solution is to go overseas and meet foreign women.

The dating scene in America is so screwed up that even Sigmund Freud wouldn't be able to figure it out!

[publicduende]

There are guys in America who make a lot of money, drive nice cars, are in great physical shape, college educated, dress well and have good social skills and they even THEY can't meet women or get laid! WTF?

The only real solution is to go overseas and meet foreign women.

The dating scene in America is so screwed up that even Sigmund Freud wouldn't be able to figure it out!

We have just had the clearest, most undeniable proof that being good looking and fit, having dosh aplenty and a nice car does not guarantee getting laid. It's as much, if not more, about personality and attitude.

Social skills...well maybe not...if these people had social skills they would definitely have chances with the ladies, especially the smarter ones (which does not necessarily equate to "better looking" or "bigger boobs").

The only real solution is to go abroad...but even the Thais and the Filipinas will probably avoid people with visible terminal mental malaise like Mr. Rodger above.

[S_Parc]

Nah I don't buy it. The guy was from an upper class family who had travelled all over the world. He was driving a BMW for God's sake. He could have flown first class to Bangkok at every class break and spent 2 weeks in the most expensive hotel, with a Jacuzzi full of different young models every day, if he wanted.

Hey, you've just described me, born rich

That's the alternate reality.

Plus, now that it's 2014 and not 1999, I wouldn't even bother with the US campus experience. Those halcyon days were from let's say 1955 to 1995. Afterwards, it's just a cesspool of thought control & manipulation. On the other thread, I'd posted Penn State's distance program website & for me, as a rich world traveler, I'd opt for that, if I didn't have the grades for London University.

http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu

Actually, screw London, too much studying with no grade inflation, I'd rather take the easier route, like getting a BJ from a hot Thai babe, after hitting the submit homework button

I wouldn't spend a day in Pennsylvania, aside from collecting my diploma at the end of it all

[nicho12]

There are guys in America who make a lot of money, drive nice cars, are in great physical shape, college educated, dress well and have good social skills and they even THEY can't meet women or get laid! WTF?

The only real solution is to go overseas and meet foreign women.

The dating scene in America is so screwed up that even Sigmund Freud wouldn't be able to figure it out!

We have just had the clearest, most undeniable proof that being good looking and fit, having dosh aplenty and a nice car does not guarantee getting laid. It's as much, if not more, about personality and attitude.

Social skills...well maybe not...if these people had social skills they would definitely have chances with the ladies, especially the smarter ones (which does not necessarily equate to "better looking" or "bigger breasts").

The only real solution is to go abroad...but even the Thais and the Filipinas will probably avoid people with visible terminal mental malaise like Mr. Rodger above.

But what does having social skills in America really mean, if by having social skills is acting like buffoon or clown in order to entertain women, then I will agree with you because most guys who get women in America at least in clubs come off acting like total clowns and this guy was just an intellectual guy. I think he would have fit in perfectly in Europe, because after reading his manifesto, I noticed that he was a very intellectual guy. Chicks in the Philippine don't care so much if the guy has mental illness, as long as he's white and from a western country, if they can give it up to a 71 year old white man what about this guy

[publicduende]

Nah I don't buy it. The guy was from an upper class family who had travelled all over the world. He was driving a BMW for God's sake. He could have flown first class to Bangkok at every class break and spent 2 weeks in the most expensive hotel, with a Jacuzzi full of different young models every day, if he wanted.

Hey, you've just described me, born rich

That's the alternate reality.

Plus, now that it's 2014 and not 1999, I wouldn't even bother with the US campus experience. Those halcyon days were from let's say 1955 to 1995. Afterwards, it's just a cesspool of thought control & manipulation. On the other thread, I'd posted Penn State's distance program website & for me, as a rich world traveler, I'd opt for that, if I didn't have the grades for London University.

http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu

Actually, screw London, too much studying with no grade inflation, I'd rather take the easier route, like getting a BJ from a hot Thai babe, after hitting the submit homework button

I wouldn't spend a day in Pennsylvania, aside from collecting my diploma at the end of it all

Hmm...dunno...I think that Elliot kid was on a downward spiral even before college, and I'm more prepared to believe he was more of a MKUltra/Monarch puppet via his Hollywood father more than he was victim of the US graduate education system.

That said, I do agree with you that most US colleges are little more than "anthropological parking lots" as a (British) sociologist labelled them. I actually wish they did have the power to administer thought control over their students. I think the vast majority of them are too dumb and profit-centric to even have the charismatic lecturers and the tailor-made syllabi required. The only manipulation they probably do is the poor student's debt record.

And by the way, London nowadays only has a handful of serious universities. Most of the University of London constituents are still pretty decent, with some excellent specialised ones like Imperial College and London School of Economics and some good generalist ones like University College and King's.

And many universities have even opted to shut down their engineering and math/physics departments for good as it has become too hard to secure the level of funding required to produce world class research. It so happened that King's College London had one of the oldest Engineering departments in the world, founded in 1838, and closed it down this year. After all, with all those little Chinese and Korean Phd's curved on their desks 18 hours a day to polish the gadgets that we buy with our credit card money, who needs an engineer in London or Cambridge (UK or Mass. don't matter)?

[publicduende]

But what does having social skills in America really mean, if by having social skills is acting like buffoon or clown in order to entertain women, then I will agree with you because most guys who get women in America at least in clubs come off acting like total clowns and this guy was just an intellectual guy.

Actually, I don't think that's correct.

The guys you call "alphas" because they can bed all the girls with apparent ease are simply acting true to their personality. By nature or nurture, trials and errors, they have understood that their traits are those of a sporty, extroverted and positive person and have mastered the communication/body language skills to express those traits very strongly and clearly. And the women love that...if the more shallow of them. Many of whom also happen to be hot.

The guys who, by nature or nurture, are introverted, more intellectual and deeper thinkers and couldn't get themselves to be funny and entertaining (in that shallow sense) if their lives depended on it - those guys can be just as attractive (when not more, far more!) than the clowns above using the same approach: self-consistency. They can join student clubs, make themselves noticed, develop their charisma and leadership, project security, stability, class, sophistication.

They may well not be bound to get the same quantity of quality of good looking girls, but they will probably be able to tell the difference between a shallow slut and a smartie with a good heart much better than the alpha stud. And, irony of life, they will see that the odds reverse sharply after their 30s, when their net worth as charismatic professionals will put them in a much better position to woo quality women.

I see the biggest problem is when young men who are naturally introverted, and deep either (or both) intellectually and emotionally/spiritually, start obsessively desiring a conduct and a lifestyle that doesn't match their personality.

I think he would have fit in perfectly in Europe, because after reading his manifesto, I noticed that he was a very intellectual guy. Chicks in the Philippine don't care so much if the guy has mental illness, as long as he's white and from a western country, if they can give it up to a 71 year old white man what about this guy

Chicks in the Philippines might be impulsive enough to go with a guy like that, but for anything more serious than a fling they will surely be able to see that there's something wrong and run for their lives like anyone else.

[S_Parc]

Nah I don't buy it. The guy was from an upper class family who had travelled all over the world. He was driving a BMW for God's sake. He could have flown first class to Bangkok at every class break and spent 2 weeks in the most expensive hotel, with a Jacuzzi full of different young models every day, if he wanted.

Hey, you've just described me, born rich

That's the alternate reality.

Plus, now that it's 2014 and not 1999, I wouldn't even bother with the US campus experience. Those halcyon days were from let's say 1955 to 1995. Afterwards, it's just a cesspool of thought control & manipulation. On the other thread, I'd posted Penn State's distance program website & for me, as a rich world traveler, I'd opt for that, if I didn't have the grades for London University.

http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu

Actually, screw London, too much studying with no grade inflation, I'd rather take the easier route, like getting a BJ from a hot Thai babe, after hitting the submit homework button

I wouldn't spend a day in Pennsylvania, aside from collecting my diploma at the end of it all

Hmm...dunno...I think that Elliot kid was on a downward spiral even before college, and I'm more prepared to believe he was more of a MKUltra/Monarch puppet via his Hollywood father more than he was victim of the US graduate education system.

That said, I do agree with you that most US colleges are little more than "anthropological parking lots" as a (British) sociologist labelled them. I actually wish they did have the power to administer thought control over their students. I think the vast majority of them are too dumb and profit-centric to even have the charismatic lecturers and the tailor-made syllabi required. The only manipulation they probably do is the poor student's debt record.

And by the way, London nowadays only has a handful of serious universities. Most of the University of London constituents are still pretty decent, with some excellent specialised ones like Imperial College and London School of Economics and some good generalist ones like University College and King's.

And many universities have even opted to shut down their engineering and math/physics departments for good as it has become too hard to secure the level of funding required to produce world class research. It so happened that King's College London had one of the oldest Engineering departments in the world, founded in 1838, and closed it down this year. After all, with all those little Chinese and Korean Phd's curved on their desks 18 hours a day to polish the gadgets that we buy with our credit card money, who needs an engineer in London or Cambridge (UK or Mass. don't matter)?

Yes, I was referencing London's Economics, as it's got a distance program but unlike the Penn State online, it has a much more rigorous mathematics & econometrics standard. By the US's pov, that's more like a Univ of Chicago or Carnegie-Mellon but one who's in bed with the City of London & its financial services sector. I think some on this side of the pond have referenced it as Wharton Europe.

But since I'm now a rich guy , why go through the rigor of a full B.S. when I can do a postgraduate diploma, for one academic year in London, while enjoying esc@rts like the Julia pic you'd posted earlier Then, I can hob knob with other capitalistic banking pigs, enjoy fine cordials, & live it up in London.

As for the kid, well, I think his dad kinda dropped the ball, more than he was controlled or manipulated by him. You have to remember, I'd separate myself and my dad's household, at a very early age. I wasn't about to become depressed like my mother or hysterical, like my sister. Thus, if I were born rich, the first thing I'd do is access the money and then, build a life for myself, knowing that money would setup the structures & separate myself from those who're abusive or negligent. I honestly wouldn't even think of attending a US stateside school, aside from the whole 'getting an undergrad credential' pov. Thus, Penn State online suits that purpose for a world traveler.

[publicduende]

Yes, I was referencing London's Economics, as it's got a distance program but unlike the Penn State online, it has a much more rigorous mathematics & econometrics standard. By the US's pov, that's more like a Univ of Chicago or Carnegie-Mellon but one who's in bed with the City of London & its financial services sector. I think some on this side of the pond have referenced it as Wharton Europe.

But since I'm now a rich guy , why go through the rigor of a full B.S. when I can do a postgraduate diploma, for one academic year in London, while enjoying esc@rts like the Julia pic you'd posted earlier Then, I can hob knob with other capitalistic banking pigs, enjoy fine cordials, & live it up in London.

LOL heheheh I think you're a bit too late to embrace the full privilege of being a City guy, even if you studied at Cambridge The whole ship is sinking deep and fast for everyone but the tiny elite on top (provided with private helicopters with enough cargo space for their multi-decade profits).

I think a few of those unis provide distance learning courses, but since much of the benefit is from being physically seen and known to the well-connected faculty, distinguished scholars & alumni et cetera, the ever popular ones are the full time, full attendance ones. The best MBA in London (and Europe) by far is actually London Business School, not LSE, but it basically takes a mortgage to do one.

For how much hogwash there is in the Anglo-saxon education system, I still believe there are a few schools and degrees truly worth their salt. A mechanical engineer or physics graduate from Imperial College, or a Law School laureate from King's are still forces to be reckoned with...provided the job market is still able to value them over the others.

As for the kid, well, I think his dad kinda dropped the ball, more than he was controlled or manipulated by him. You have to remember, I'd separate myself and my dad's household, at a very early age. I wasn't about to become depressed like my mother or hysterical, like my sister. Thus, if I were born rich, the first thing I'd do is access the money and then, build a life for myself, knowing that money would setup the structures & separate myself from those who're abusive or negligent. I honestly wouldn't even think of attending a US stateside school, aside from the whole 'getting an undergrad credential' pov. Thus, Penn State online suits that purpose for a world traveler.

Well, kudos for becoming a balanced person despite, rather than thanks to, your family
Just out of curiosity, would the Penn State be your first or second academic experience? If you need a degree other than entering a specific position, I personally (and it's just a personal opinion) believe that free online learning from the likes of MIT OpenCourseWare, Coursera or Udacity can be just as good. And surely free.

[S_Parc]

Yes, I was referencing London's Economics, as it's got a distance program but unlike the Penn State online, it has a much more rigorous mathematics & econometrics standard. By the US's pov, that's more like a Univ of Chicago or Carnegie-Mellon but one who's in bed with the City of London & its financial services sector. I think some on this side of the pond have referenced it as Wharton Europe.

But since I'm now a rich guy , why go through the rigor of a full B.S. when I can do a postgraduate diploma, for one academic year in London, while enjoying esc@rts like the Julia pic you'd posted earlier Then, I can hob knob with other capitalistic banking pigs, enjoy fine cordials, & live it up in London.

LOL heheheh I think you're a bit too late to embrace the full privilege of being a City guy, even if you studied at Cambridge The whole ship is sinking deep and fast for everyone but the tiny elite on top (provided with private helicopters with enough cargo space for their multi-decade profits).

I think a few of those unis provide distance learning courses, but since much of the benefit is from being physically seen and known to the well-connected faculty, distinguished scholars & alumni et cetera, the ever popular ones are the full time, full attendance ones. The best MBA in London (and Europe) by far is actually London Business School, not LSE, but it basically takes a mortgage to do one.

For how much hogwash there is in the Anglo-saxon education system, I still believe there are a few schools and degrees truly worth their salt. A mechanical engineer or physics graduate from Imperial College, or a Law School laureate from King's are still forces to be reckoned with...provided the job market is still able to value them over the others.

Sure, the full privileges of the City aren't there but LSE is a type of vector, where management consulting and financial services, including the other cities, NYC or Hong Kong, are a popular destination for the graduates.

And yes, the postgrad diploma is on the LSE campus, so meeting up with obnoxious financial ppl, from around the globe, is very doable

As for the kid, well, I think his dad kinda dropped the ball, more than he was controlled or manipulated by him. You have to remember, I'd separate myself and my dad's household, at a very early age. I wasn't about to become depressed like my mother or hysterical, like my sister. Thus, if I were born rich, the first thing I'd do is access the money and then, build a life for myself, knowing that money would setup the structures & separate myself from those who're abusive or negligent. I honestly wouldn't even think of attending a US stateside school, aside from the whole 'getting an undergrad credential' pov. Thus, Penn State online suits that purpose for a world traveler.

Well, kudos for becoming a balanced person despite, rather than thanks to, your family
Just out of curiosity, would the Penn State be your first or second academic experience? If you need a degree other than entering a specific position, I personally (and it's just a personal opinion) believe that free online learning from the likes of MIT OpenCourseWare, Coursera or Udacity can be just as good. And surely free.

The online free courses like MIT OCW, Coursera, etc do not confer a degree of any kind. Thus, it's more for self-enrichment and supplementing another degree.

In the alternative world, where I'm born into a rich family who tosses cash at me, that Penn State online is the first undergraduate degree after high school. And I'd probably opt for homeschooling, earlier on, in place of traditional high school as well, supplementing my studies with a few university courses from the likes of a Coursera.

And since I can live anywhere in the world doing the bachelors degree, I'd do some six months in various countries: Brazil, France, Czech Republic, Thailand, etc. b*inking hot esc@rt gals, while learning things like international cooking styles, martial arts, dance, and other stuff to enrich my life. There's no need to show up in Pennsylvania for any reason. If I find a girlfriend, great, that would then be my primary international destination, but if not, no big deal.

[S_Parc]

I think a few of those unis provide distance learning courses, but since much of the benefit is from being physically seen and known to the well-connected faculty, distinguished scholars & alumni et cetera, the ever popular ones are the full time, full attendance ones. The best MBA in London (and Europe) by far is actually London Business School, not LSE, but it basically takes a mortgage to do one.

Well, this is interesting because from the Yankee p.o.v, actually the City of New York's perspective, LSE is the place which creates the financiers & traders but LBS is the finishing school, if those LBSers were already in the industry beforehand. Thus, if a Wall St firm wants an equity risk analyst, not just another team lead or sales exec who's got experience in the one square mile, LSE is usually the place they have in mind.

[Falcon]

I really enjoy the intelligent exchange between PublicDuende and S_Parc. You guys avoid simplistic, rash emotional judgments and instead look at the big picture analytically.

Repatriate's posts are also highly insightful. Sure he may have poked fun at me and Winston once in a while, but his posts make this forum much more worth reading too.

No offense intended, but it's far more interesting and thought-provoking than reading Banano vs. Billy or Contrarian Expatriate vs. Cornfed.

[S_Parc]

Another friend and I went over this last night.

We came to the conclusion that although he was able to pick up a freebie, like the used BMW from his parent, he wasn't this freewheeling world traveler, who could escape the clutches of his parents & stepparent, and really see the world outside of America.

In other words, he wasn't given this hefty allowance to do what he wanted. Sure, he probably didn't need to worry about tuition, gas money, food, and so forth but it wasn't like he could live large. He didn't have an expense account.

Thus, his story was not the rich kid with a short circuited past. He's more a person, who'd bought into romantic ideals about blonde bombshells and living in some romance movie. Then, being jerked around by fake friends and negligent parents, he couldn't find a way out because his only inner world was about being rejected from his novelization of the world.

In contrast, whenever I'd felt really down, back in those days, I'd do pushups and pullups, and get back to work or study. I didn't look to ppl to change my outlook, esp average looking self-absorbed AWs. Yes, that paycheck = a bo*nk up in Montreal. I'd separated my personal physiological needs, from my sense of belonging or connection to the world at large.

And then, when the world travels began, I was able to meld the two worlds.

[publicduende]

I really enjoy the intelligent exchange between PublicDuende and S_Parc. You guys avoid simplistic, rash emotional judgments and instead look at the big picture analytically.

Repatriate's posts are also highly insightful. Sure he may have poked fun at me and Winston once in a while, but his posts make this forum much more worth reading too.

No offense intended, but it's far more interesting and thought-provoking than reading Banano vs. Billy or Contrarian Expatriate vs. Cornfed.

Thanks Falcon. Said by one of the sharpest pencils in here, it's doubly appreciated.

[Falcon]

Thanks Falcon. Said by one of the sharpest pencils in here, it's doubly appreciated.

Thanks. I'm not the sharpest guy out there, but I'm more than willing to learn with an open mind.

I've learned that it is necessary to not simply BE outside your comfort zone, but also while abroad to learn with an open mind, ask the right intelligent questions, and take that extra step of participating with others and understanding how THEY think.

As I am beginning to mature a bit more, I am beginning to see that many of my past rants were sometimes not quite as insightful and well thought-out as they could have been. It's not enough to simply tag along with Winston's often simplistic explanations, questions, and rants. Reading and thinking from different points of view, immersing myself into different cultures and philosophies, and being willing to learn with a humble mind make all the difference. The world does not work by way of black-and-white dichotomy. Instead, it's a thriving, colorful world of contradictions, co-existence, and mutual dependency.

A bit of Buddhist or Stoic philosophy could help.