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Has Hitler been overly demonized/vilified and not as bad as we were told?

Post by Winston » September 30th, 2012, 8:32 am

I was wondering, since we've learned now that the Western media tends to lie about a lot of things, what about Adolf Hitler and WWII? Is their portrayal of him as an evil monster and mass murdering psychopath who tried to conquer the world and wipe out the entire Jewish race accurate or true? Is there any real evidence to back that terrible one-dimensional image of him up? What about from Hitler's own words from his speeches and books? Or is all the evidence based on hearsay and/or fabrications?

I don't know, but the notion of a villain who wants to conquer the world by force and wipe out an entire race seems like a character out of a super hero comic book rather than a real life person. People in real life just don't become "evil villains" and try to take over the world. That only happens in fictional stories. Powerful leaders are far more complicated than that. So this whole notion of him being totally evil and insane seems contrived, doesn't it? Yet our media tries to portray it as a black and white case of good vs. evil. But is anything big ever really that black and white?

Especially considering the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian, was kind to animals and people, and an artist as well. Vegetarians and artist types are not usually even violent. Plus, the German people are among the most intelligent in the world and would never have supported such a villain who was all evil.

So, how much of the historical portrayal of Hitler is truth and how much is fiction? Why has he been demonized so much when other figures in history have done far worse, such as Stalin?

Did Hitler really kill any Jews or try to conquer the world, or even Europe? Was he really the aggressor in WWII? Didn't he try to deport them all to the Middle East before WWII even started? If he wanted to kill them all, why did he deport them? That seems to contradict basic logic.

What's Hitler's side of the story? Has it really ever been told? Was his hatred of the Jews justified in any way? Or was he 100 percent wrong and the Jews were 100 percent innocent and did no wrong as American culture insinuates?

Why is it that when the Nazis kill a lot of people, it's considered an atrocious crime, but when the US kills a lot of people, like in Vietnam or Iraq, it's considered just an honest mistake? Isn't that a humongous double standard?

Also, didn't a lot more Russians and Ukrainians die during WWII than Jews? If so, why isn't there a Holocaust memorial and reparations for them? Why do Jewish victims have special status? Is that just a natural coincidence with no agenda?

Check out these comments on YouTube. Are they true?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKMVt7K4gPY

"Hitler's totally correct is right, I find this to be true even in personal relations with Jews at my place of work: oppressive, aloof and meddlesome. The western support for Israel is a measure of powerful Jewish lobbies in Britain & America pulling strings here & there. Hitler was right, he described with spectacular insight the Jewish psyche, of a people who have little empathy or remorse, a people with no scruples are not interested in morals only the outcomes of their deceits."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAzPQoUlUQE

"jews have been persecuted for precisely this reason, because they want to dominate, soon after they reach a very powerful position and start dominating the host country the revolt comes in and then jews are killed, thats why jews have always been hunted by people.jews do not want to live in peace with the goyim, they want to dominate us,so they basically say "either us or you"-to the death.its their choice,we just defend ourself when we are threatened ..same thing will happen soon.."

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk
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Post by ladislav » September 30th, 2012, 8:42 am

He killed people in my family. People who did not do anything bad to him.
The US military did not kill people in my family. Also, it has not killed some 20,000,000 people.
And the US is seen as the Devil by those whose people had been killed by it. It is not seen as the Devil by those who did not suffer on account of it.
The US does bad but it also does a lot of good for the world. And it is loved by those to whom it does good.

Hitler did not do anything good for the world except for Germany.
Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk
A lot of such quotes as well as passages from Talmud are fake. Plus the Jews do not refer to themselves as a race. Very rare. Never in public speeches.
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Post by terminator » September 30th, 2012, 9:22 am

I've been thinking a lot about this. I see little difference in America invading country after country and Hitler doing it.

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Post by Winston » September 30th, 2012, 4:31 pm

Check out this new radical film odbo told me about that presents Hitler's side of the story, which we were never told. Up til now, we've only heard one side of the story. How fair is that? After all, there are two sides to every story right? And if you never hear the other side, then how do you know what you've missed or what you could be mistaken about?

Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told

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Post by Winston » October 1st, 2012, 4:15 pm

Also check out these comments by Mark Weber about a new book about Hitler:



"THE BEST FILM ABOUT HITLER ON YOUTUBE" The "standard" biographies of Adolf Hitler are inadequate and fundamentally flawed, says American historian Russell Stolfi in his remarkable new book 'Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny' The Zionist controlled mass media, and even supposedly scholarly works, portray the German leader as a monstrous, criminal demagogue who was driven by irrational hatred and lust for power. In fact, contends Stolfi, Hitler was a prophetic, messianic and visionary figure, who should be understood and appreciated along with such towering personalities as Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Mohammed and Jesus. Stolfi's important book not only provides much-needed historical perspective. It is itself an expression of an inevitable trend toward a more valid and truthful understanding of an extraordinary historical figure. READ THE BOOK: Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny by Stolfi:
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Post by Mr S » October 3rd, 2012, 4:50 pm

Here's another decent documentary exposing the truth about Hitler's Germany:

Hitler's War: What the Historians Neglect to Mention



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Hitler's War: What the Historians Neglect to Mention. An English translation of "Hitlers Krieg? Was Guido Knopp Verschweigt" by Alphart Geyer (2009).

This is a 96 minute long "Made in Germany" underground documentary film. It's the first documentary ever to unabashedly explain from the German perspective, how World War II really began, and the many efforts that were made by Hitler to avoid it, and to establish a lasting, viable and mutually acceptable peace, but how he was ultimately left with no choice but to invade Poland. It documents many facts that have been deliberately left out of the "official narrative" as presented by the victorious Allies, which we have all been taught since 1945, and which Germans especially have been constantly reminded of since the war ended; with the blame entirely upon Germany's shoulders. Many of the claims of the Allies that have been widely accepted as fact are refuted here as patently untrue, distorted, or ignored completely.

The film is largely based upon a book entitled "Der Krieg der viele Väter hatte" by German author and historian, Gerd Schulze Rhonhof His website is called "vorkriegsgeschichte (English: The War that had Many Fathers) and "Ein unvermeidlicher Krieg? -- Der Weg zum 1. September 1939" (An Unavoidable War - The Path to September 1st, 1939). Rhonhof is a former high-ranking, German military officer (Brigadier General in the Panzer Division) who has done, as any honest historian should, his own deep research in the war archives, and has been assisted many other historians. His website is http://www.vorkriegsgeschichte.de (pre-war history) which contains all of his documentation. His books and assertions, not surprisingly, have not been so well received by many politicians, academia, the Left, and the mainstream media.

The making of this film seems to have been prompted primarily by some comments made by Chancellor Angela Merkel, speaking to a live audience and the various Heads of State from many nations, gathered at a ceremony in Danzig in 2009, to remember Hitler's (allegedly) senseless and unprovoked attack on Poland, paying respects to the Polish victims on behalf of Germany, and as always, expressing gratitude to the Allies, for their sacrifices in the victory over National Socialism. Merkel, like all other German chancellors since the end of World War II, accepted full responsibility and with it, the perpetual guilt for the entire war on behalf of all Germans, and unquestioningly accepted, again: the villain role ascribed to National Socialist Germany by the victors, which many Germans, to this day, deeply resent, yet have silently endured it all of their lives. Merkel's comments, however, struck a raw nerve for many Germans who know "the rest of the story".

"Hitler's War" is also a sharp rebuke to well known German "journalist", author, filmmaker and commentator Guido Knopp (to whom the original film title actually refers), and who many Germans regard as "Uncle Guido" (in the English sense of an "Uncle Tom"), as he has a reputation for being a domestic Propaganda Minister for the World War II Allies, regarding the Third Reich and National Socialism. For he, like Merkel and the others, continues to ignore many facts, and only dutifully reminds Germans of the guilt of their forefathers (and by extension, their own "inherited" guilt), based upon a highly sanitized "official version" of history.

There are always two sides to every story, and now the Germans are finally telling theirs. This film is a "must see" for anyone with a sense of justice, honour, fairness and dignity, who have respect for ALL of the victims of World War II (not merely the "politically correct" ones) and who are interested in an accurate account of history. Indeed, if we are to learn from history, and not be doomed to repeat it, then we must also have a fair and accurate account from which to draw our conclusions and upon which to make decisions in the present, and for our future.

This film has broken through the 60+ year old taboos. Truth has breached the barbed-wire fences of "political correctness", and is making a desperate run for it's life.

Translation, narration, sound mixing, over-dubbing of the original soundtrack by W. Prante (2011)
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Re: Was Hitler as evil as the Western media portray him?

Post by OutWest » October 3rd, 2012, 6:13 pm

Winston wrote:I was wondering, since we've learned now that the Western media tends to lie about a lot of things, what about Adolf Hitler and WWII? Is their portrayal of him as an evil monster and mass murdering psychopath who tried to conquer the world and wipe out the entire Jewish race accurate or true? Is there any real evidence to back that terrible one-dimensional image of him up? What about from Hitler's own words from his speeches and books? Or is all the evidence based on hearsay and/or fabrications?

I don't know, but the notion of a villain who wants to conquer the world by force and wipe out an entire race seems like a character out of a super hero comic book rather than a real life person. People in real life just don't become "evil villains" and try to take over the world. That only happens in fictional stories. Powerful leaders are far more complicated than that. So this whole notion of him being totally evil and insane seems contrived, doesn't it? Yet our media tries to portray it as a black and white case of good vs. evil. But is anything big ever really that black and white?

Especially considering the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian, was kind to animals and people, and an artist as well. Vegetarians and artist types are not usually even violent. Plus, the German people are among the most intelligent in the world and would never have supported such a villain who was all evil.

So, how much of the historical portrayal of Hitler is truth and how much is fiction? Why has he been demonized so much when other figures in history have done far worse, such as Stalin?

Did Hitler really kill any Jews or try to conquer the world, or even Europe? Was he really the aggressor in WWII? Didn't he try to deport them all to the Middle East before WWII even started? If he wanted to kill them all, why did he deport them? That seems to contradict basic logic.

What's Hitler's side of the story? Has it really ever been told? Was his hatred of the Jews justified in any way? Or was he 100 percent wrong and the Jews were 100 percent innocent and did no wrong as American culture insinuates?

Why is it that when the Nazis kill a lot of people, it's considered an atrocious crime, but when the US kills a lot of people, like in Vietnam or Iraq, it's considered just an honest mistake? Isn't that a humongous double standard?

Also, didn't a lot more Russians and Ukrainians die during WWII than Jews? If so, why isn't there a Holocaust memorial and reparations for them? Why do Jewish victims have special status? Is that just a natural coincidence with no agenda?

Check out these comments on YouTube. Are they true?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKMVt7K4gPY

"Hitler's totally correct is right, I find this to be true even in personal relations with Jews at my place of work: oppressive, aloof and meddlesome. The western support for Israel is a measure of powerful Jewish lobbies in Britain & America pulling strings here & there. Hitler was right, he described with spectacular insight the Jewish psyche, of a people who have little empathy or remorse, a people with no scruples are not interested in morals only the outcomes of their deceits."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAzPQoUlUQE

"jews have been persecuted for precisely this reason, because they want to dominate, soon after they reach a very powerful position and start dominating the host country the revolt comes in and then jews are killed, thats why jews have always been hunted by people.jews do not want to live in peace with the goyim, they want to dominate us,so they basically say "either us or you"-to the death.its their choice,we just defend ourself when we are threatened ..same thing will happen soon.."

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk
Of course, many on the forum here would love Hitler...nearly adore him.
Perhaps you all could set up a theory on how to implement a more efficient method of ridding the world of those dirty Jews and Roma and any others that need to go. You must all remember, Hitler was WONDERFUL, and it is only Zionist propaganda that portrays him as evil.

I suppose one topic for debate would be, if you are going to euthanize all the Jews and some others, what about if there are some hot babes in the mix? Should those also be killed? If you are going to kill all the Jews anyway, what difference would it make if you selected the pretty ones and used them for sex camps? Medical experiments would also be useful in order for Jews to pay back society for all the crimes they have committed against the world don't you think?

Should rape and killing of Jews be decriminalized? Exactly how would US society go about that?
How many here would favor that? Should school children be forced to study Hitler in a positive light?


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Post by fschmidt » October 3rd, 2012, 7:45 pm

ladislav wrote:He killed people in my family. People who did not do anything bad to him.
The US military did not kill people in my family. Also, it has not killed some 20,000,000 people.
And the US is seen as the Devil by those whose people had been killed by it. It is not seen as the Devil by those who did not suffer on account of it.
The US does bad but it also does a lot of good for the world. And it is loved by those to whom it does good.

Hitler did not do anything good for the world except for Germany.
Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk
A lot of such quotes as well as passages from Talmud are fake. Plus the Jews do not refer to themselves as a race. Very rare. Never in public speeches.
Winston, why don't you respond to ladislav?

By the way ladislav, Hitler didn't so good for Germany in the end either. Hitler's arrogance caused Germany to lose the war.
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Post by Winston » October 3rd, 2012, 9:05 pm

OutWest wrote: Of course, many on the forum here would love Hitler...nearly adore him.
Perhaps you all could set up a theory on how to implement a more efficient method of ridding the world of those dirty Jews and Roma and any others that need to go. You must all remember, Hitler was WONDERFUL, and it is only Zionist propaganda that portrays him as evil.

I suppose one topic for debate would be, if you are going to euthanize all the Jews and some others, what about if there are some hot babes in the mix? Should those also be killed? If you are going to kill all the Jews anyway, what difference would it make if you selected the pretty ones and used them for sex camps? Medical experiments would also be useful in order for Jews to pay back society for all the crimes they have committed against the world don't you think?

Should rape and killing of Jews be decriminalized? Exactly how would US society go about that?
How many here would favor that? Should school children be forced to study Hitler in a positive light?

Outwest
You are becoming unduly emotional. No one here is suggesting any of that or condoning any violence. We are just saying that history should be studied with balance. You can't understand something by only studying one side. You should hear the other side too. There are two sides to every story right? Therefore, to understand WWII, doesn't it make sense to hear Hitler's side too? Otherwise, how do you know whether you've been lied to or not?

Do you really think that WWII was just a simple case of good vs. evil? Do you really think he was out to conquer the world, for lust of power, like a character from a marvel comics character? How do you know that wrongs were not done to Hitler first? Do you even know why Hitler invaded Poland? Do you think he just did so out of lust for conquest and violence?

Did you watch the films above posted by me and Mr S? If you did, you'd see that WWII was not as simple as you think. Most likely, Hitler wasn't as bad as western history portrays, and the Allies were not as good as portrayed either.

Every side is biased, including the Western media. So to find the truth, you have to hear all sides, right?

The reason some people admire Hitler is because he brought order and unity to his society and didn't believe in any bullshit multiculturalism, which has wrecked Western society.

Btw, if Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, then why did he migrate them all to Palestine before WWII?

And why is Hitler vilified as the most evil man in the world, while Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon and Genghis Khan are not?

Speaking of hot Jewish babes, check out this one on an Israeli children's program mocking Jesus. Dang. Why is she dressed that skimpy on a children's show?

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Re: Was Hitler as evil as the Western media portray him?

Post by OutWest » October 4th, 2012, 2:49 am

Winston wrote:
OutWest wrote: Of course, many on the forum here would love Hitler...nearly adore him.
Perhaps you all could set up a theory on how to implement a more efficient method of ridding the world of those dirty Jews and Roma and any others that need to go. You must all remember, Hitler was WONDERFUL, and it is only Zionist propaganda that portrays him as evil.

I suppose one topic for debate would be, if you are going to euthanize all the Jews and some others, what about if there are some hot babes in the mix? Should those also be killed? If you are going to kill all the Jews anyway, what difference would it make if you selected the pretty ones and used them for sex camps? Medical experiments would also be useful in order for Jews to pay back society for all the crimes they have committed against the world don't you think?

Should rape and killing of Jews be decriminalized? Exactly how would US society go about that?
How many here would favor that? Should school children be forced to study Hitler in a positive light?

Outwest
You are becoming unduly emotional. No one here is suggesting any of that or condoning any violence. We are just saying that history should be studied with balance. You can't understand something by only studying one side. You should hear the other side too. There are two sides to every story right? Therefore, to understand WWII, doesn't it make sense to hear Hitler's side too? Otherwise, how do you know whether you've been lied to or not?

Do you really think that WWII was just a simple case of good vs. evil? Do you really think he was out to conquer the world, for lust of power, like a character from a marvel comics character? How do you know that wrongs were not done to Hitler first? Do you even know why Hitler invaded Poland? Do you think he just did so out of lust for conquest and violence?

Did you watch the films above posted by me and Mr S? If you did, you'd see that WWII was not as simple as you think. Most likely, Hitler wasn't as bad as western history portrays, and the Allies were not as good as portrayed either.

Every side is biased, including the Western media. So to find the truth, you have to hear all sides, right?

The reason some people admire Hitler is because he brought order and unity to his society and didn't believe in any bullshit multiculturalism, which has wrecked Western society.

Btw, if Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, then why did he migrate them all to Palestine before WWII?

And why is Hitler vilified as the most evil man in the world, while Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon and Genghis Khan are not?

Speaking of hot Jewish babes, check out this one on an Israeli children's program mocking Jesus. Dang. Why is she dressed that skimpy on a children's show?


No Winston, I am not emotional. I save that for reality...I am having too much fun with the rubes on the farm here...so don't ruin it!
I am not aware of a single poster here with a well grounded knowledge of history- even the less controversial elements, let alone of the
debatable reasons and motivations behind World War II. (Hat tip to Ladislav, the exception to the rule)

The general level of education here is horrifically US PUBLIC SCHOOLS at work and it is pathetic. Generally about 90% of Americans I meet are in this category, dumber than a post about history, geography, literature or philosophy.

You know all those crappy American women that this forum justly skewers in most cases? How in the hell do you think they got that way? Most American men graduated from the same factory of stupidity, so what do you get? You get just what we have here and within most elements of US society. A collection of pathetic dumb-asses, he-bitches and she-pricks.

With your forum you touched on a very valid premise: Maybe men could fare better abroad. A few of them get on forums like this and live out some escape vicariously. Even fewer actually go somewhere. The vast majority of American cannot even understand why you would possibly want to go anywhere at all, and most could not find their ass on a map if it was tattooed in place. You are an outlier Winston and you will never fit in. That is not an insult. At least you had the cajones to get on a plane and do something and you have some frigging idea of the difference between Peterbilt and St. Petersburg. You actually know that Taiwan is not the same as Thailand and
that Singapore is not an Island in the Caribbean. This makes you an exception to the rule in the USA...an oddity in a country where
graduates are woefully ignorant and live blissfully ignorant of the world in which they live.

So let's not ruin the fun...I'm bored by too much "easy going" all in one day, so I look for comic relief by throwing peanuts to the monkeys.


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Post by FREEDOM1 » October 4th, 2012, 3:10 am

Hitler is always demonised by the Jewish/Zionist run media

to distract you from the truth and the crimes committed

by the anglo-american empire in the past and now, there is too much to write here

about this subject and it is not a straight forward explanation in a paragraph

if you really want to know more about Hitler and what was happening behind the scenes

I highly recommend this book, its a must read, it will really change all your false pre-conceptions


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Re: Was Hitler as evil as the Western media portray him?

Post by fschmidt » October 4th, 2012, 3:44 am

Even though you refuse to respond to ladislav, I will answer your questions.
Winston wrote:Btw, if Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, then why did he migrate them all to Palestine before WWII?
He didn't.
And why is Hitler vilified as the most evil man in the world, while Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon and Genghis Khan are not?
Hitler killed more than the rest combined. And of course Hitler lost while the others won.
Speaking of hot Jewish babes, check out this one on an Israeli children's program mocking Jesus. Dang. Why is she dressed that skimpy on a children's show?
Because she is a liberal slut, no different from a liberal slut of any other religion.

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Re: Was Hitler as evil as the Western media portray him?

Post by Jester » October 4th, 2012, 7:32 am

Winston wrote:

You are becoming unduly emotional. No one here is suggesting any of that or condoning any violence. We are just saying that history should be studied with balance. You can't understand something by only studying one side. You should hear the other side too. There are two sides to every story right? Therefore, to understand WWII, doesn't it make sense to hear Hitler's side too? Otherwise, how do you know whether you've been lied to or not?

Do you really think that WWII was just a simple case of good vs. evil? Do you really think he was out to conquer the world, for lust of power, like a character from a marvel comics character? How do you know that wrongs were not done to Hitler first? Do you even know why Hitler invaded Poland? Do you think he just did so out of lust for conquest and violence?

Did you watch the films above posted by me and Mr S? If you did, you'd see that WWII was not as simple as you think. Most likely, Hitler wasn't as bad as western history portrays, and the Allies were not as good as portrayed either.

Every side is biased, including the Western media. So to find the truth, you have to hear all sides, right?

The reason some people admire Hitler is because he brought order and unity to his society and didn't believe in any bullshit multiculturalism, which has wrecked Western society.

Btw, if Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, then why did he migrate them all to Palestine before WWII?

And why is Hitler vilified as the most evil man in the world, while Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon and Genghis Khan are not?

Speaking of hot Jewish babes, check out this one on an Israeli children's program mocking Jesus. Dang. Why is she dressed that skimpy on a children's show?

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Post by Jester » October 4th, 2012, 7:34 am

Winston wrote:Check out this new radical film odbo told me about that presents Hitler's side of the story, which we were never told. Up til now, we've only heard one side of the story. How fair is that? After all, there are two sides to every story right? And if you never hear the other side, then how do you know what you've missed or what you could be mistaken about?

Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told

Trailer:



Part 1:

Watched parts 1 through 8, couldn't stop really. I had always asumed that Hitler was good on economics, bad on starting wars. These videos gave me info I never had. Thanks.

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Re: Was Hitler as evil as the Western media portray him?

Post by Jester » October 4th, 2012, 7:42 am

OutWest wrote:
Winston wrote: You are becoming unduly emotional. No one here is suggesting any of that or condoning any violence. We are just saying that history should be studied with balance. You can't understand something by only studying one side. You should hear the other side too. There are two sides to every story right? Therefore, to understand WWII, doesn't it make sense to hear Hitler's side too? Otherwise, how do you know whether you've been lied to or not?

Do you really think that WWII was just a simple case of good vs. evil? Do you really think he was out to conquer the world, for lust of power, like a character from a marvel comics character? How do you know that wrongs were not done to Hitler first? Do you even know why Hitler invaded Poland? Do you think he just did so out of lust for conquest and violence?

Did you watch the films above posted by me and Mr S? If you did, you'd see that WWII was not as simple as you think. Most likely, Hitler wasn't as bad as western history portrays, and the Allies were not as good as portrayed either.

Every side is biased, including the Western media. So to find the truth, you have to hear all sides, right?

The reason some people admire Hitler is because he brought order and unity to his society and didn't believe in any bullshit multiculturalism, which has wrecked Western society.

Btw, if Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, then why did he migrate them all to Palestine before WWII?

And why is Hitler vilified as the most evil man in the world, while Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon and Genghis Khan are not?

Speaking of hot Jewish babes, check out this one on an Israeli children's program mocking Jesus. Dang. Why is she dressed that skimpy on a children's show?


No Winston, I am not emotional. I save that for reality...I am having too much fun with the rubes on the farm here...so don't ruin it!
I am not aware of a single poster here with a well grounded knowledge of history- even the less controversial elements, let alone of the
debatable reasons and motivations behind World War II. (Hat tip to Ladislav, the exception to the rule)

The general level of education here is horrifically US PUBLIC SCHOOLS at work and it is pathetic. Generally about 90% of Americans I meet are in this category, dumber than a post about history, geography, literature or philosophy.

You know all those crappy American women that this forum justly skewers in most cases? How in the hell do you think they got that way? Most American men graduated from the same factory of stupidity, so what do you get? You get just what we have here and within most elements of US society. A collection of pathetic dumb-asses, he-bitches and she-pricks.

With your forum you touched on a very valid premise: Maybe men could fare better abroad. A few of them get on forums like this and live out some escape vicariously. Even fewer actually go somewhere. The vast majority of American cannot even understand why you would possibly want to go anywhere at all, and most could not find their ass on a map if it was tattooed in place. You are an outlier Winston and you will never fit in. That is not an insult. At least you had the cajones to get on a plane and do something and you have some frigging idea of the difference between Peterbilt and St. Petersburg. You actually know that Taiwan is not the same as Thailand and
that Singapore is not an Island in the Caribbean. This makes you an exception to the rule in the USA...an oddity in a country where
graduates are woefully ignorant and live blissfully ignorant of the world in which they live.

So let's not ruin the fun...I'm bored by too much "easy going" all in one day, so I look for comic relief by throwing peanuts to the monkeys.


Outwest
Did you really write this stuff, or did your identity get hijacked? If the former, you certainly seem to be having a bad day.

:lol: who on here is it that you think doesn't know their history? Winston is one of the most far-ranging intellects you will find. Odbo is sharp as a tack. Fschmidt too. Each with their own biases, but I don't know, maybe you watch some Spielberg movies so you know more.

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