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Why are the Nazis considered the bad guys?

Post by Cornfed » September 13th, 2012, 9:55 pm

Some claim the Nazis were installed in power as part of a conspiracy to bring about a war to end the racial and cultural aspirations of the German people, in which case they would be the bad guys along with everyone else. If on the other hand they were on the level, I don't see how such a belief can be maintained, given post-war events. Surely, taken at face value, they were the last non-traitor regime in Europe, arguably the last Europeans. In just six years they raised Germany from crushing poverty to probably the richest country in the world and eliminated unemployment, largely by standing up to the global bankster system. They made corporations spend a lot to improve the condition of workers and society in general and spread a culture of extended family all-in-this-togetherness. If they had won the war then Europe would be without all the social pathologies currently infesting it - no feminism, nihilism, cultural Marxism, self-loathing, mass immigration of third world genetic trash, depopulation, debt slavery to Jewish banksters etc. Tragically the banksters won, with the men most likely to stand up to them on both sides being killed, and look at the mess we have now.

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Post by publicduende » September 13th, 2012, 10:31 pm

If the Nazis had won WW2, not much would have changed. Hitler would have transformed much of Europe into a federal state with Germany as the leading power, not dissimilarly to what the EU is now, in fact much more visibly so over the past few years of crisis. The cartel of German and American bankers and industrialists that financed Hitler, his party, his press and media campaigns, and eventually his war, would have come back to get even more of their dues. And once Hitler and a few of his buddies had died, they would have ensured the usual team of puppets would take over and make the world exactly as it is today.

It's always a nice thought game to think the winners as the losers, and vice-versa. Unfortunately it's easy to forget that, at least since Napoleon's wars, the same people and the same agendas have been behind both sides.

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Post by Cornfed » September 13th, 2012, 10:52 pm

^ That is possibly all true. I was taking the hypothetical case that the Nazis were sincere, had broken away from the banksters who installed them in power and were able to maintain their integrity.

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Post by publicduende » September 13th, 2012, 11:05 pm

Cornfed wrote:^ That is possibly all true. I was taking the hypothetical case that the Nazis were sincere, had broken away from the banksters who installed them in power and were able to maintain their integrity.
f***ing hell, I feel weird that we agree, for once :) I'm sure you hold David Icke in good esteem. I do, too. I remember reading one of his books as far back as 12 years ago. He was one of the first public speakers to openly mention the "problem - reaction - solution" chain that powers to be have been using to justify large swathes of a sovereign population to side with one extreme faction and buy their propaganda with open hearts and open hands. What was left of old Prussia was a weakened Germany and an even weaker Austria. Both countries were economically crushed during the Great Depression, and huge inflation and unemployment ensued. A Rothschildt in disguise, Adolf Hitler, was chosen to bring about "change" and "hope"... WW2 was designed to enslave much of Europe just like the Bolshevik revolution and WW1 were meant to bring Zarist Russia to an end.

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Post by Winston » September 30th, 2012, 8:13 am

No one thinks of themselves as the bad guys. Not even Hitler and the Nazis did. They did what they thought was right and just.

Even thieves see their act as a sort of balancing the scales of injustice in that they are robbing the rich and giving to the poor (themselves) with a Robin Hood mentality.

Did the Nazis exterminate millions of innocent people? Isn't that why people think they are the bad guys? Didn't they start WWII? That's what the Western media claims at least.
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Post by Cornfed » October 1st, 2012, 5:51 am

Winston wrote:Did the Nazis exterminate millions of innocent people? Isn't that why people think they are the bad guys? Didn't they start WWII? That's what the Western media claims at least.
They may have killed more Slavs than they needed to. The other side also murdered millions of innocent people. As far as the hollowhoax goes, it obviously didn't happen, but if someone did exterminate the Jews then vastly more lives would be saved on balance.

Assuming WWII was not a set up with the same people controlling both sides, it was started by the Jews/banksters. Germany defied the banksters by issuing their own debt-free currency and setting up an international barter system, thereby cutting the banksters out of the loop. The response from the banksters was to declare war on Germany and impose an ever-tightening trade embargo. This was problematic because Germany has few natural resources and can't feed itself, so they really only had the options of either surrendering to the banksters or acquiring agricultural land and resources to the east.

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Post by Winston » October 1st, 2012, 4:10 pm

Why is it that when Hitler kills a lot of people, it's considered an atrocity and evil crime, but when the US kills a lot of people, like in Vietnam or Iraq, it's considered just an honest mistake? Isn't that a humongous double standard?
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Post by Winston » October 1st, 2012, 4:13 pm

There are two sides to every story, and you've all only heard one side about Hitler. Check out this new film: "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told". It helps bring balance to the real Hitler rather than the extremes that are portrayed about him.

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Post by Cornfed » November 1st, 2012, 10:02 am

Here is an article about how the Nazis defied Jewish banksters:
http://www.freestatevoice.com.au/politi ... he-bankers

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Post by Winston » November 1st, 2012, 10:38 am

The Nazis may not have been as bad as the Western media portrays, but no one can deny that they invaded a lot of countries aggressively right? It's an objective fact, isn't it? If so, isn't that a hostile immoral act?

The invasion of Poland may have been justifiable, but what about the invasion of France and the other countries?

I wonder why Winston Churchill refused Hitler's peace offer. Why did he want to go to war with the Nazis so bad, even though the Nazis didn't want war with them?
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Post by publicduende » November 1st, 2012, 3:39 pm

Winston wrote:The Nazis may not have been as bad as the Western media portrays, but no one can deny that they invaded a lot of countries aggressively right? It's an objective fact, isn't it? If so, isn't that a hostile immoral act?
For more than a century, the US have been invading countries in Latin America, the Middle East and Asia, as well as masterminding countless violent regime changes, funding lobbies in favour of their geopolitical and economic interests. These are objective facts, too, documented by writers of the caliber of Gore Vidal.

Yet, especially after WW2, the US have been consistently portrayed by the media as the "all round Goog Guys", those who save the day and restore peace and democracy.

Thanks to the Internet and the (relative) freedom of independent media, this narrative is coming to an end.

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Post by Cornfed » November 1st, 2012, 8:13 pm

Winston wrote:The Nazis may not have been as bad as the Western media portrays, but no one can deny that they invaded a lot of countries aggressively right? It's an objective fact, isn't it? If so, isn't that a hostile immoral act?

The invasion of Poland may have been justifiable, but what about the invasion of France and the other countries?

I wonder why Winston Churchill refused Hitler's peace offer. Why did he want to go to war with the Nazis so bad, even though the Nazis didn't want war with them?
If your country can't feed itself and the Jews use their favored tactic of blockading your country then the only option to avoid famine is to acquire agricultural land outside your borders. Before the green revolution, the Nazis might have been justified in thinking they needed all the land in Europe to the east of Germany to have food security. As for invading France, the French by that stage had declared war first so only have themselves to blame. The reason Churchill refused offers of peace is that he was a part-Jew war criminal working for the banksters.

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Post by Jester » November 2nd, 2012, 5:14 am

+1 to all posters. Good thread.
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Post by colinberry1 » January 13th, 2013, 10:55 am

Well I have to agree with publicduende, things will never change as long as the same establishment runs the show, there is more dictators today than ever.
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Re: Why are the Nazis considered the bad guys?

Post by Jester » January 15th, 2013, 7:40 am

Cornfed wrote:.....In just six years they raised Germany from crushing poverty to probably the richest country in the world and eliminated unemployment, largely by standing up to the global bankster system. They made corporations spend a lot to improve the condition of workers and society in general and spread a culture of extended family all-in-this-togetherness.
This is the part that interests me most.

I think they freed up credit by creating 90-day bills like cash, allowing industry to take orders and expand, paying for raw materials with 90-day credit -- bypassing banks.

At least I think that's a part of it.

In any case, the fact that ALL economists studiously ignore the greatest and fastest economic turnaround in history - is highly suspect.

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