Poetic Justice, men age like wine, women age like milk!

[jamesbond]

You might call it "Poetic Justice" as the tables are turned on women starting in their mid to late 30's. When women are young (late teens to early 30's) they have men bending over backwards for them (buying them gifts, taking them on vacations, etc.). Then starting in their mid 30's, women start to lose their looks and their power they have over men.

Men on the other hand, have it difficult in the dating scene when they are young. For example, a guy in his 20's who is still living at home won't be able to attract too many women because he is still living at home and probably doesn't have a good paying job. Now fast forward to when this guy is older and in his 30's. He is out living on his own, maybe owns a home, has a nice car and a good paying job. Women who are in his age group (women in their 30's) want like heck to date him but wait he doesn't want to date them because he is interested in younger women only (women in their 20's).

Paybacks are a bitch! These women wouldn't give this guy the time of day when he was in his 20's, living at home, driving an older car and not making a lot of money. Now, these same women are all over him like flies on shit because he is successful. Well guess what, he is not interested in these women because they are not attractive anymore and he is only interested in young attractive women!

Check out these clips from Tom Leykis regarding this phenomenon:

[jamesbond]

Here is another clip from Tom Leykis where he talks about the fact that "no man want's a 50 year old woman." It's awesome check it out!

[Teal Lantern]

You might call it "Poetic Justice" as the tables are turned on women starting in their mid to late 30's. When women are young (late teens to early 30's) they have men bending over backwards for them (buying them gifts, taking them on vacations, etc.). Then starting in their mid 30's, women start to lose their looks and their power they have over men.

Men on the other hand, have it difficult in the dating scene when they are young. For example, a guy in his 20's who is still living at home won't be able to attract too many women because he is still living at home and probably doesn't have a good paying job. Now fast forward to when this guy is older and in his 30's. He is out living on his own, maybe owns a home, has a nice car and a good paying job. Women who are in his age group (women in their 30's) want like heck to date him but wait he doesn't want to date them because he is interested in younger women only (women in their 20's).

Paybacks are a bitch! These women wouldn't give this guy the time of day when he was in his 20's, living at home, driving an older car and not making a lot of money. Now, these same women are all over him like flies on shit because he is successful. Well guess what, he is not interested in these women because they are not attractive anymore and he is only interested in young attractive women!

Check out these clips from Tom Leykis regarding this phenomenon:

Did it sound to anyone else like that last caller (Trish @ 20:45) was near tears? Or was she just shrill?

[marklambo]

You might call it "Poetic Justice" as the tables are turned on women starting in their mid to late 30's. When women are young (late teens to early 30's) they have men bending over backwards for them (buying them gifts, taking them on vacations, etc.). Then starting in their mid 30's, women start to lose their looks and their power they have over men.

Men on the other hand, have it difficult in the dating scene when they are young. For example, a guy in his 20's who is still living at home won't be able to attract too many women because he is still living at home and probably doesn't have a good paying job. Now fast forward to when this guy is older and in his 30's. He is out living on his own, maybe owns a home, has a nice car and a good paying job. Women who are in his age group (women in their 30's) want like heck to date him but wait he doesn't want to date them because he is interested in younger women only (women in their 20's).

Paybacks are a bitch! These women wouldn't give this guy the time of day when he was in his 20's, living at home, driving an older car and not making a lot of money. Now, these same women are all over him like flies on shit because he is successful. Well guess what, he is not interested in these women because they are not attractive anymore and he is only interested in young attractive women!

Check out these clips from Tom Leykis regarding this phenomenon:

starting at 13:50 you can hear this woman whining and bitching to Tom about how he treats women now. It's so funny when she said she's 44 and he said she sounds like 64 LMAO. She just kept going off and off yelling at him. He also called her "an old bag" LMAO!! Hilarious..I love it.

[innovatorsclub]

You might call it "Poetic Justice" as the tables are turned on women starting in their mid to late 30's. When women are young (late teens to early 30's) they have men bending over backwards for them (buying them gifts, taking them on vacations, etc.). Then starting in their mid 30's, women start to lose their looks and their power they have over men.

Men on the other hand, have it difficult in the dating scene when they are young. For example, a guy in his 20's who is still living at home won't be able to attract too many women because he is still living at home and probably doesn't have a good paying job. Now fast forward to when this guy is older and in his 30's. He is out living on his own, maybe owns a home, has a nice car and a good paying job. Women who are in his age group (women in their 30's) want like heck to date him but wait he doesn't want to date them because he is interested in younger women only (women in their 20's).

Paybacks are a bitch! These women wouldn't give this guy the time of day when he was in his 20's, living at home, driving an older car and not making a lot of money. Now, these same women are all over him like flies on shit because he is successful. Well guess what, he is not interested in these women because they are not attractive anymore and he is only interested in young attractive women!

Check out these clips from Tom Leykis regarding this phenomenon:

You mean if he goes overseas.... That is the only cryptonite but it's huge... The worse fear an american women is being replaced by a hottie that is much younger. They know the odds are slim for an american guy to find a gal 10+ years younger than him and her. Overseas makes this a reality. Add a prenup in the equation and the exagerated bad outcom is neatralized. This is the only thing that lowers american bitches power and why this website is important.

[Jacaré]

Loved listening to this and how the old hag just lost it. LOL Keep'em coming guys! Let's give it REAL hard to these bitches!!!!ahahaha

[publicduende]

He might be every bit as controversial, successful and legit as he wants. Still, I have a problem believing a man in his mid or late fifties who looks like that will ever get more than top-quality escorts or the occasional young Latino gold digger.



It is really true that the typical American tendency to breed delusions out of past frustrations knows no boundaries of gender, age, social or financial status.

[Teal Lantern]

He might be every bit as controversial, successful and legit as he wants. Still, I have a problem believing a man in his mid or late fifties who looks like that will ever get more than top-quality escorts or the occasional young Latino gold digger.

It is really true that the typical American tendency to breed delusions out of past frustrations knows no boundaries of gender, age, social or financial status.

As opposed to what? The ex-harpy not-so-young Anglo gold digger that half of married men have had to go through an emotional/financial wringer with by the time they get his age?

Woman drains ex’s retirement account
http://www.bankrate.com/financing/retir ... t-account/

Man sits in jail while unable to pay vaginamony that exceeds his income
http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-demo ... le_ua.html

Tom's already had the married man experience, and learned the value of a pre-nup.

[Andrewww]

While I agree with the initial statement, I don't see how that helps in North America.

I think we pretty much agreed (on this forum at least) that Western women are generally not worth it. They require too much time and monetary investment for nothing of real value. Plus, the 30 year old guy with the nice job, the nice house and the nice car won't have much time chasing women because of all those bills. Add a 20 year old skank on top of that and he'll be broke in no time.

So yea...let's face it, early to mid 20s is still the best time to date women and find a wife. If you wanna go abroad, it's easier to do so in your 20s because if you lose everything then you have plenty of time to catch up.

Also, think about your mental health, spending your youth in loneliness will have a negative impact. Men who go bald usually do so in their late 20s and very few bald men look sexy in a woman's eyes. All of this is to say that men in their 20s should not sit on their asses and wait until they "age like wine".

[abcdavid01]

[quote="Andrewww"] very few bald men look sexy in a woman's eyes./quote]

Balding is not the same as bald. It can work if you can pull off a Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel look. With hipster glasses, some guys can even go for a Moby.

[lone_yakuza]

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[drealm]

While I agree with the initial statement, I don't see how that helps in North America.

I think we pretty much agreed (on this forum at least) that Western women are generally not worth it. They require too much time and monetary investment for nothing of real value. Plus, the 30 year old guy with the nice job, the nice house and the nice car won't have much time chasing women because of all those bills. Add a 20 year old skank on top of that and he'll be broke in no time.

So yea...let's face it, early to mid 20s is still the best time to date women and find a wife. If you wanna go abroad, it's easier to do so in your 20s because if you lose everything then you have plenty of time to catch up.

Also, think about your mental health, spending your youth in loneliness will have a negative impact. Men who go bald usually do so in their late 20s and very few bald men look sexy in a woman's eyes. All of this is to say that men in their 20s should not sit on their asses and wait until they "age like wine".

How do you know if your going to go bald?

[Rock]

He might be every bit as controversial, successful and legit as he wants. Still, I have a problem believing a man in his mid or late fifties who looks like that will ever get more than top-quality escorts or the occasional young Latino gold digger.


It is really true that the typical American tendency to breed delusions out of past frustrations knows no boundaries of gender, age, social or financial status.

I believe guys like Tom Leykis have very black and white beliefs about women due to poor and/or unlucky choices of gfs and wives in they're younger days. Somehow, they ended up with gold diggers each time. Now if you've been with several girls in serious relationships including three or more marriages and each time, the girl ended-up after your money or became that way near the end, you will likely come to believe that all women are that way. We tend to project our own personal experiences into generalizations, especially if after several trials, we always get the same result.

The reality is, there are women who truly like or love a guy irregardless of his financial ability. If a guy for whatever reason loses his money and ability to work, a woman who really loves him for him will likely stick by his side for the long-term. These types of couples are not so rare as Leykis seems to believe. I've seen plenty and personally experienced women who don't care about my salary or assets and don't even want me to spend any money on them during dates.

Tom is a rich, famous, and some would say powerful man. As such, he will attract many women in spite of being a -1 attractiveness wise (his own words, lol). Some may be intoxicated just by his celebrity. Others may harbor hopes in the back of their mind that by dating him, seducing him, and sexing him, they just might be able to get an equity stake via marriage. Given that plus his consistent bad luck with women during all his relationships and marriages, I would not be surprised if he actually arrived at the beliefs he has professed on his show over and over - that women are all about the money and power and nothing else. Or, perhaps he's at least partially acting in order to attract a huge male audience.

The reality is, the women you meet are going to have different motivations - from the hard-core gold diggers to those who just totally dig you and all the shades in between. In Tom's mental model of the world, they're all just hos. Not true in my experience, not even close.

[Rock]

While I agree with the initial statement, I don't see how that helps in North America.

I think we pretty much agreed (on this forum at least) that Western women are generally not worth it. They require too much time and monetary investment for nothing of real value. Plus, the 30 year old guy with the nice job, the nice house and the nice car won't have much time chasing women because of all those bills. Add a 20 year old skank on top of that and he'll be broke in no time.

So yea...let's face it, early to mid 20s is still the best time to date women and find a wife. If you wanna go abroad, it's easier to do so in your 20s because if you lose everything then you have plenty of time to catch up.

Also, think about your mental health, spending your youth in loneliness will have a negative impact. Men who go bald usually do so in their late 20s and very few bald men look sexy in a woman's eyes. All of this is to say that men in their 20s should not sit on their asses and wait until they "age like wine".

How do you know if your going to go bald?

Probable indicators of what to expect are your father and mother's father. Those are not 100% of course. You can also slow hair loss or virtually stop it with DHT blocking drugs such as Propecia. But some suffer side effects such as decreased libido or erectile dysfunction from them.

[Teal Lantern]

While I agree with the initial statement, I don't see how that helps in North America.

It helps SOME guys resist the fear of not agreeing to marry the first girl who gives them the ultimatum.

I think we pretty much agreed (on this forum at least) that Western women are generally not worth it. They require too much time and monetary investment for nothing of real value.

Depends on what you're trying to get. Plenty of "no money" guys are doing alright.

Plus, the 30 year old guy with the nice job, the nice house and the nice car won't have much time chasing women because of all those bills. Add a 20 year old skank on top of that and he'll be broke in no time.

If he has those things (minus the skank), his total debt is going down, not up. He can always downsize the car and house. He also gets the vicarious experience of seeing what happens to his friends who fell for the "marry me or lose me" threat at 28. Hint: It ain't pretty.

So yea...let's face it, early to mid 20s is still the best time to date women and find a wife. If you wanna go abroad, it's easier to do so in your 20s because if you lose everything then you have plenty of time to catch up.
Also, think about your mental health, spending your youth in loneliness will have a negative impact.

Yoda says: Much from the "friend zone" years, you can learn .

Men who go bald usually do so in their late 20s and very few bald men look sexy in a woman's eyes. All of this is to say that men in their 20s should not sit on their asses and wait until they "age like wine".

The "sexiness" of a particular man (bald or not) will depend on the woman's tastes and what her friends say.
A woman who gives you a cold look the first time you speak to her will turn around and greet you like an old friend if a hot friend of hers [female or male ] comes up smiling and says "Oh, I see you've met Andrewww."
"Oh, I see you've met Andrewww." will do more for Andrewww's 2nd chance than anything he were going to come up with on his own.

"Men in their 20s should not sit on their asses". Agreed. They should meet many people and learn social dynamics. They should experience an LTR. They should avoid getting trapped by an "oops" pregnancy.
They should save some cash. You can't go for a trip overseas if you're spending money on women here. Which is it going to be?
There is much to do. Learning from other peoples' mistakes is an important part of that doing.