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Here's another thing I don't get about atheists.

They claim they don't believe in God because they can't see or touch God. Yet they are eager to believe in the multiple universe theory to try to explain away the fine tuning of the universe argument, even though they cannot see or touch other universes, and there's no evidence for them at all. Go figure. Same with evolution, the big bang theory and dark matter. They cannot see or touch any of those too, nor prove them. Yet they claim to be scientific and rational?! Geez. Why are they such hypocrites and liars who pretend to have no biases? Lol

They claim evolution is a proven fact even though they cannot prove it and cannot find any fossil evidence or bones for any transitional species or intermediary species, for example between fish and reptiles, or fish and mammals, or reptiles and birds, or ape-like ancestors and humans, etc, which must exist for Evolution to be true, which Darwin himself admitted in his book "Origin of the Species". Yet they've found NONE at all, not even one! Nor can they find evidence or examples for any beneficial mutations that add information to the genome, which must exist for Darwinian evolution to work. In fact, they cannot even show that any form of bacteria can transform or "evolve" into another species of bacteria, which has never been observed. Thus their evidence is technically a big fat ZERO! So if evolution has zero evidence to support it, how is it a fact?! Makes no sense. And how can they believe in something that they cannot see or touch, as with God? They contradict themselves greatly. Yet they lie and claim to be unbiased, logical and rational. Go figure.

Furthermore they claim that God is not necessary. But how can God be unnecessary since there's no evidence at all for macro-evolution, not even a little? And no way to create life from non life. No way to create the first living cell from non living matter with lightning striking a pool of mud, via abiogenesis, as Stanley Miller tried to do in the 1950's but failed, and which Louis Pasteur proved to be impossible, etc. Basic logic says that life cannot be created by non life. Just as consciousness cannot be created by non consciousness. Atheists have never been able to change or disprove that. Also, philosophically speaking it makes more sense that everything came from something rather than nothing, since things come from other things, but not from nothing. So theism makes more sense than atheism from a philosophical standpoint. Yet atheists can't get around this.

So how can God be unnecessary? It makes no sense and is untrue. Yet they claim they are all about logic, science and rationality? Wtf? How do they sleep at night believing and touting so many lies? Shouldn't they know better? Aren't they educated adults?

Atheists have never been able to change the basic facts and principles that don't fit their theories on evolution, cosmology or the origin of life. All their attempts to take God out of the equation have FAILED and none of their theories work. So they ought to change their theories and ideas, like any logical scientific person is supposed to, by updating their beliefs to fit the data. Yet atheists stubbornly refuse to out of their misguided ideology and hatred for God. Instead, they do the opposite, by trying to alter the data to fit their beliefs, often using denial and deception, which is very unscientific, irrational, illogical and dishonest as well. Shame on them!

Furthermore, they claim that stuff like dark matter must exist in order to fill in the gaps of their cosmological theories on gravity and mass, hence it is an ad hoc invention of theirs. Yet they cannot ever accept that God is an explanation that can fill in the gaps too? As if that were a taboo and big no no. Why the big double standard and bias? Obviously it's due to their psychology and ideology of needing to believe in a godless creatorless universe, and has nothing to do with rationality or science, especially since God and science are not mutually exclusive as they falsely claim, but can easily co-exist, philosophically speaking.

They also claim that atheism is not a religion, however many dictionaries define religion as "any belief system that is rigid and adhered to dogmatically" even if there's no worship of a deity. Moreover, atheists believe in a lot of things without evidence and take on faith and ideology alone, such as evolution, the big bang and multiple universe theory. So their beliefs and paradigm do constitute a religion, or at least a dogmatic belief that ignores evidence and reason in favor of their ideology. This is pretty much a form of fundamentalism, but at the opposite extreme from Christianity.

Furthermore, evolution is not science. Neither is the big bang or multiple universes. Science has to do with repeatable experiments that you can do to test a hypothesis and either validate it or falsify it. None of the aforementioned can be tested or validated. Hence atheists lie again when they claim that evolution is science. Science is a tool and methodology, not an ideology. Don't these atheists have a conscience? Why don't they feel guilty for their dishonesty and delusions?

Either way, atheists are certainly not objective or unbiased. Most of the atheists I've seen on YouTube - especially big names like Richard Dawkins, Bill Nye and Lawrence Krauss - when they speak about God and religion they do so in a very hateful, spiteful, condescending tone and emotion. That's definitely not unbiased. Moreover, what's ironic is that you gotta wonder, how can they hate something that they believe doesn't even exist? This speaks volumes and indicates they are in denial and that their paradigm is unnatural. Thus their opinions are much less credible than they will admit, since hateful people often cannot reason soundly or think clearly, and are prone to making gross exaggerations, selective cherry picking and distortions.

The bottom line is that atheism is an incomplete and inadequate view of reality, because it cannot account for or explain many important things, such as: consciousness, origin of life from non-life, miracles and answered prayers that defy coincidence, supernatural and paranormal phenomena, compelling reincarnation cases that have no materialist explanations, near death experiences that cannot be explained by materialist explanations, etc. Instead, it denies all these things and turns a blind eye to them. However, denial does not constitute a valid argument and does not erase the reality or evidence of all these phenomena. Thus the atheistic paradigm is woefully flawed, faulty and inadequate to explain reality, life or the universe. It is nothing more than dogmatic opinion, hate and bias at the core.

Now I'm not saying religion or new age movements have all the answers either. They have their flaws, problems and inadequacies too. Every paradigm and belief system does. But the atheistic paradigm is the lamest of them all. It does not explain anything at all and only denies, hates and ridicules.

Notice also that the greatest minds and geniuses in history were not atheists. For example, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, and Thomas Edison, the greatest geniuses of the 20th Century, were not atheists. Nor were geniuses in the past such as Leonardo da Vinci. Not even great historical authors who were critics of organized religion and Christianity, such as Mark Twain, Robert Ingersoll, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, etc were atheists. Nor were the great science pioneers that atheists admire, such as Isaac Newton or Galileo, atheists either. Not even Charles Darwin, their biggest idol, was an atheist.

All this speaks volumes. And indicates that atheism is unnatural, abnormal and messed up, like a freak of nature. Nor does atheism have any answers to any of life's mysteries nor any mysteries of cosmology. It has nothing, and is useless and has no value. Atheism is merely a position of hate for God and religion. That's all it is. Thus it's the most illogical and unwise position that one can take, as well as amoral and degenerate too, since it retards your brain and consciousness, and closes your mind into a small artificial box as well. And it's soulless and spiritless too, since what kind of soul would deny that they have a soul, and what kind of spirit would deny that it has a spirit? What could be weirder than that?! Or dumber? Such a being that would deny its own soul and spirit must have the most miserable existence. You gotta pity such a person. Enough said.
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IF YOU BELIEVE IN MATH, SCIENCE OR EVOLUTION

1. ATHEISM SUCKS!
2. ATHEISTS WILL GO EXTINCT

ATHEISTS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CHILDREN
RELIGIOUS WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN
THE FUTURE IS RELIGIOUS

NEWSFLASH
Atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_an ... lity_rates
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Most of the world doesn't believe in a dogmatic theistic deity. Also, religion is dying all over the world.

I'd say the atheists have the future. The sooner we move away from fairy tales the better off society will be.
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Jonny Law wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 2:43 am
IF YOU BELIEVE IN MATH, SCIENCE OR EVOLUTION

1. ATHEISM SUCKS!
2. ATHEISTS WILL GO EXTINCT

ATHEISTS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CHILDREN
RELIGIOUS WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN
THE FUTURE IS RELIGIOUS

NEWSFLASH
Atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_an ... lity_rates
It may not be that simple. Atheists dominate schools in America, especially at university level. They indoctrinate the education system with their teachings on evolution, liberalism, feminism, moral relativism, etc. So even if Atheists don't reproduce, children still continue to be indoctrinated by them. That's why theists have to work harder to market their beliefs on YouTube and the internet and documentaries that present the other side and debunk evolution.
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Winston, don't you believe in the AI goo and Taoism? Now you believe in God too? I can't pin you down. And all your unfortunate essays "debunking" Christianity. Aren't you also one of these atheists?
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Winston wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 11:40 am
Jonny Law wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 2:43 am
IF YOU BELIEVE IN MATH, SCIENCE OR EVOLUTION

1. ATHEISM SUCKS!
2. ATHEISTS WILL GO EXTINCT

ATHEISTS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CHILDREN
RELIGIOUS WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN
THE FUTURE IS RELIGIOUS

NEWSFLASH
Atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_an ... lity_rates
It may not be that simple. Atheists dominate schools in America, especially at university level. They indoctrinate the education system with their teachings on evolution, liberalism, feminism, moral relativism, etc. So even if Atheists don't reproduce, children still continue to be indoctrinated by them. That's why theists have to work harder to market their beliefs on YouTube and the internet and documentaries that present the other side and debunk evolution.
It doesn't matter. Atheists will not have eternal life. They will never live again. When they die, that's it. Those who believe in Christ will live again. Because He's going to recreate the world. This time there will be no Satan, no sin, and no death. Just perfection the way He always wanted it. And the only work we are going to do, is praising and serving the Lord. And it will be billions of times better than this life. Atheists who are greedy for sin, and to do their own will, and to be their own gods, will not have eternal life.

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Winston wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 11:40 am
Jonny Law wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 2:43 am
IF YOU BELIEVE IN MATH, SCIENCE OR EVOLUTION

1. ATHEISM SUCKS!
2. ATHEISTS WILL GO EXTINCT

ATHEISTS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CHILDREN
RELIGIOUS WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN
THE FUTURE IS RELIGIOUS

NEWSFLASH
Atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_an ... lity_rates
It may not be that simple. Atheists dominate schools in America, especially at university level. They indoctrinate the education system with their teachings on evolution, liberalism, feminism, moral relativism, etc. So even if Atheists don't reproduce, children still continue to be indoctrinated by them. That's why theists have to work harder to market their beliefs on YouTube and the internet and documentaries that present the other side and debunk evolution.
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Adama wrote:
January 14th, 2018, 7:48 pm
Winston, don't you believe in the AI goo and Taoism? Now you believe in God too? I can't pin you down. And all your unfortunate essays "debunking" Christianity. Aren't you also one of these atheists?
Well it's difficult to say. Many intelligent wise people are theists but do not like organized religion. I'm sure you know of those too. That's what the wisest people believe. All I said is that atheists and evolution make no sense and is the weakest most useless paradigm that explains nothing. And that intelligent design is obvious and well proven. All of this indicates a creator or creators. But it doesn't prove the Christian God or the Bible. That's an unwarranted jump. Intelligent design doesn't prove any religion to be true. It just proves intelligent design.

Yes there are several possibilities to explain intelligent design:

1) God
2) A team of Gods or deities
3) ET's or aliens
4) Super beings or entities beyond our comprehension that cannot be described or understood by us.
5) Computer programmers or AI running our world as a computer simulation or matrix, like in the Matrix Trilogy movies.
6) We are all fragments of God as the New Agers and Hindus say, which split up into many pieces so that God can dream and experience itself. Hence this world is all a dream that God is having.

All of these can explain intelligent design. Not just the Bible. So you must rule out the other possibilities too, Adama, before you can say that Bible is the only answer. Do you understand my point and argument now? Of course I am not an atheist just because I criticize organized religion. There are lots of things wrong with organized religion. Many flaws, problems, shortcomings, etc. And yes that includes Christianity too. No world view or paradigm or belief system is complete and can explain everything.

For example, the Christian paradigm cannot explain the compelling cases of reincarnation that are well documented by Dr. Ian Stevenson and Dr. Brian Weiss. It cannot explain the well documented and publicized reincarnation case of Jenny Cockwell, who found her past life children in Ireland and met them. That case shocked the world. It cannot explain the recent story of the boy who remembered his life as a pilot during WWII, which was all over the news and could not be explained except by reincarnation. Etc. Thus, the Christian paradigm is incomplete. Moreover, early Christians believed in reincarnation too, such as the Gnostics.

It also cannot explain astrology and why it produces patterns above chance, which was proven by researchers and statisticians like Michel Gauquelin. The ancient motto in astrology is "As above, so below." Claiming it's all due to Satan is a cheap copout and denial. You can't dismiss all data that doesn't fit your beliefs by claiming Satan. How would Satan be able to create patterns and events according to the stars? How would he make a person born on a particular zodiac sun sign, like Pisces for example, share the same characteristics? How would Satan cause most of my friend friends or girlfriends to be a particular zodiac sign? It makes no sense. Again, the data doesn't fit into the Christian paradigm.

Also it makes no sense why all the suffering, evil, atrocities, genocide, unfairness, tragedy, etc happen in the world just because two people decided to taste a delicious looking fruit off a tree in the Garden of Eden. That makes no sense. If your children disobey you, you send them to bed without snacks or TV, as a lesson, then you forgive them the next day and hope they learn not to disobey again. You do not punish them and billions of people with pain, suffering, and death for all eternity. Think about it. This makes less sense than anything in the universe. No one would do that.

And if you want to argue that the Garden of Eden story is a metaphor and not literal, well then what's to say the whole Bible isn't a metaphor too? In that case, the Bible becomes a great work of poetry or parable, like a meaningful work of fiction, similar to Shakespeare, but has no authority or law or power behind it to tell you what to do. Just like if all government laws were metaphorical then the government ceases to have any power or authority and people are free to interpret the laws any way they wish and disobey them too.

Furthermore, if you take the Bible literally you run into hundreds of problems, contradictions, and discrepancies, many of which are unresolvable. Any intelligent, thinking, unbiased person knows this. It's been established and well documented.

So you see, no belief system or paradigm is complete and explains everything and makes perfect sense. They all have problems, flaws and shortcomings.

So what should we do then? What do you suggest? Truth is something you gotta dig for. It's a journey and search and life path. It's not like fast food that comes in a package, as Adama claims.
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Actually it makes perfect sense because our Creator is pure light, truth, righteousness and purity. A God that is 100% good can't tolerate any evil. Therefore once evil is introduced into the system, that system is then tainted for as long as it exists. Death entered into this creation through their choice to sin, which tainted the whole world. It really is quite simple if your eyes are open to the truth. Some people just think they are wiser than God.

Sin -> death, because sin is impurity. It is the opposite of what God is (righteousness -> life). Therefore the whole world will be destroyed one day.

So it isn't a matter of sending them to bed without dinner. It is a matter of casting them out into outer darkness.

And He does have forgiveness, but only for those who believe in His Son. Christ came to rescue everyone from hell. Just they must put their complete trust in Him to save them. Many people are too concerned with living a life of sin to bother to believe that Christ is God. Because they love sin more than they love the prospect of eternal life.

All the promises of eternal life are not revealed to unbelievers. A person must believe first. Then the truth is revealed. Arrogant unbelievers are so wrapped up in choosing sin over everlasting life that they may never get to live again, and the next life is going to be billions of times better than this one. Because there will be no sin, no death, and no adversary to derail anything, and God's full glory will be there, instead of just a portion of it.

As for reincarnation, people choose to believe sweet and smooth sounding lies that give them some consolation, because they want to follow their own commandments, which somehow they think are superior to God's. Reincarnation is delusion.
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The problem with you religious zealots is that like any persons of power and influence is that anyone who doesn't accept your religious doctrine is considered a threat to your existence and therefore must be shamed and told what a terrible person they are! As the saying goes "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar"! If you want to proselytize someone into your beliefs, how can you win someone over by harassing and shunning them? Telling them if they don't believe in something that doesn't respond to the very "so-called" children "He" created; by threatening that if they don't believe in "Him" that they'll be cast into a horrific fiery hell forever! Why would you expect anyone to break their necks to want to join that kind of a club? Or do you honestly believe that threatening somebody's life to an mythical eternal torture is guaranteed to scare someone into submission? Interestingly, I've read a rich history of how religions have tortured, murdered, and subjected entire societies into their beliefs, but I've never heard of an army of atheists terrorizing a society into rejecting their beliefs! Sure there were the Romans who killed Christians for a time, but they were killed because they wouldn't reject Jesus Christ, not because they worshipped a deity! I've never seen nor have I ever heard of an atheist pushing there beliefs on someone, but I've plenty examples of people of religions pushing themselves off on others! This thing about atheists in schools trying push their beliefs on the children is preposterous! At the end of each school day and every week each Sunday, students, parents and teachers are still patronizing their local churches as they have been for hundreds of years! Statistics show that atheists make up less than one percent of the world's population, so they don't have enough real power or influence to be a threat! Most of the mass murderers you hear about were religious affiliated like Jim Jones, David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh who bombed the federal building Oklahoma City. Then there was the shooting in the Texas church a few months ago by the one of the churches own members, and then there were religious fanatics in 9/11. So maybe it's not atheists that people of religion should worry about, but themselves!
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@Adama you will love this video called "Professing Themselves to be Wise" where Pastor Steven Anderson ridicules and exposes the modern science gurus and their religion called "science fiction", such as Richard Dawkins, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss, Bill Nye, Stephen Hawking, etc. It's pretty hilarious. You will love his rants. He shows how these "science gurus" try to explain how the universe came from nothing, and this is possible because of gravity. Wtf? He even shows how Dawkins claims pedofilia is ok but teaching kids the Bible is child abuse. lol. And Krauss saying that teaching children young earth creationism is child abuse. So now they are saying that teaching Christianity is a form of child abuse? That's really going too far. They are clearly religious and ideological, not scientific.

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Many people today believe that the Bible is not compatible with Science, but this is only because much of what we call "science" today, is what the Bible calls "science falsely so called." Theoretical physicists such as Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawking, and others, produce bizarre fictional theories about the origin and nature of our universe, that have no basis in observable reality. These ridiculous theories stem from a rejection of God and his word. If people really knew what these so-called scientists believed, they would understand the truth of what the Bible says in Romans 1:22 about these kind of phony scientists: "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools."

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Winston wrote:
January 24th, 2018, 2:53 pm
@Adama you will love this video called "Professing Themselves to be Wise" where Pastor Steven Anderson ridicules and exposes the modern science gurus and their religion called "science fiction", such as Richard Dawkins, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss, Bill Nye, Stephen Hawking, etc. It's pretty hilarious. You will love his rants. He shows how these "science gurus" try to explain how the universe came from nothing, and this is possible because of gravity. Wtf? He even shows how Dawkins claims pedofilia is ok but teaching kids the Bible is child abuse. lol. And Krauss saying that teaching children young earth creationism is child abuse. So now they are saying that teaching Christianity is a form of child abuse? That's really going too far. They are clearly religious and ideological, not scientific.

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Many people today believe that the Bible is not compatible with Science, but this is only because much of what we call "science" today, is what the Bible calls "science falsely so called." Theoretical physicists such as Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawking, and others, produce bizarre fictional theories about the origin and nature of our universe, that have no basis in observable reality. These ridiculous theories stem from a rejection of God and his word. If people really knew what these so-called scientists believed, they would understand the truth of what the Bible says in Romans 1:22 about these kind of phony scientists: "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools."

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org

I also saw this particular video when it first came out.
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Check out this funny Atheist cartoon showing what Christians imagine Atheists do in secret. lol. It's hilarious and entertaining, and may even be true in representing what Christians imagine to be an Atheist conspiracy against them. lol

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