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Thre is hardly any reason for Zelensky to surrender, Russia has a population of about 145 million people, and even if you deduct all the occupied territories by Russia since 2014, still Ukraine has about 35 million people, who clearly do not want any Russian control of their own nation.
Ukraine is heavily supported by many Western countries, not only by EU or by NATO.

So far the Ukrainian government is in control of about 80 percent of the former Ukraine and the war is more or less a stalemate situation.

Russia was not able to remove the Ukrainian government in 18 months, and Ukraine is not able to take back the occupied areas.

Future might be a cease-fire, no peace treaty, no surrender - a border line heavily fortified - somewhat similar to North and South Korea, or similar to Japan and Russia.

Also India has some problems with China which is claiming a large part of land in India (Arunachal Pradesh called by China South Tibet)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arunachal_Pradesh

Yohan wrote: ↑

August 11th, 2023, 7:16 pm

Thre is hardly any reason for Zelensky to surrender, Russia has a population of about 145 million people, and even if you deduct all the occupied territories by Russia since 2014, still Ukraine has about 35 million people, who clearly do not want any Russian control of their own nation.
Ukraine is heavily supported by many Western countries, not only by EU or by NATO.

So far the Ukrainian government is in control of about 80 percent of the former Ukraine and the war is more or less a stalemate situation.

Russia was not able to remove the Ukrainian government in 18 months, and Ukraine is not able to take back the occupied areas.

Future might be a cease-fire, no peace treaty, no surrender - a border line heavily fortified - somewhat similar to North and South Korea, or similar to Japan and Russia.

Also India has some problems with China which is claiming a large part of land in India (Arunachal Pradesh called by China South Tibet)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arunachal_Pradesh

Reconstructing Post War Ukraine will be a monumental task. Nearly 1 trillion dollar would be needed.

I don't think the Russians are willing to end this war yet unless Ukraine agree to stay a neutral nation and follow the Minsk Accord.
The Russians are slowly gaining ground from the Eastern side, and I think the Ukrainian offensive have stalled and they lost lot of men and heavy equipment in their ill fated attack/publicity stunt. Zelensky is crying for more Abram tanks, F16s, and 155mm Artillery shells. However the U.S can't simply produce thousands of them and magically ship it to Ukraine with Amazon overnight shipping. That's why the Russians are attacking now from the East. Vladimir Putin will do whatever it takes to win the war in Russia's favor or else he will be in danger of being removed from power. Remember this is the war that Russia can't afford to lose. They will do whatever they can to win and secure a favorable peace deal.

War continues until USA pulls the money plug. Money is more important than weapons at this point. Low risk approach for Russia is to simply take a little Ukrainian territory whenever Ukraine tries to relax, this forcing the Ukrainians to fight hard, causing Ukrainian army to be slowly but surely exterminated. So no cease fire like in Korea. Cease fire is what USA and Ukraine want but they won't get it.

After the money spigot get turned off, no telling what happens. Russia definitely has no desire to occupy a hostile Ukraine, so they need somene negotiate with in order to make Ukraine a vassal state without Russian occupation. Who this someone will be is the big question.