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May 12th, 2019, 5:55 pm
I think the original meaning of alt-right was for a true populist right-wing movement, that yes, advocated pushing for reduced legal and obliterated illegal immigration (which is somewhat what Trump is doing, since he still seems to like foreign workers) for ethnocentric reasons, but also to be a true White Man's worker party. If you care to read up on the owner of the Alt-Right moniker, Richard Spencer, you'll see that he supports national health care and a stipend for intelligent women to forgo a career and have children (how to stop the untermensch from doing that, I'm not sure), among other ideas that typically are associated with the Left. Of course, they are against global trade, and for something that sure sounds like a jobs program. And they are for strengthening the environment. Basically, they put the needs of the people (OK, white people for them) in front of the needs of the cosmopolitan businessman. They are also conservative with family issues, and it's not to be misogynistic, but simply to keep the white birth rate up.

All things being equal, I like to vote ethnocentrically, but will vote against my race if there is a superior candidate (e.g., Obama) and/or the party that supposedly of my tribe advocates against most of my important issues (which the Republican Party does, with the exception of immigration, which I agree with Trump more or less on).
  • Agreed the operational alt-right is a 100% very real grass roots movement, this existed well before the term alt-right became common.
  • The massive Mexican immigration wave had already stopped years before Trump came in and it is and will continue to have a major impact. Also Mexicans are way more conservative than the left believes, 30% voted for Trump in 2016 in spite on Trumps overt anti illegal immigration from Mexico (US Mexicans don't want the competition surprise surprise) and the non stop race baiting by mainstream media which includes Telemundo. More may vote Trump in 2020.
  • The main supporters of the left are single women (feminist), this is why abortion is a far bigger issue with the left than the right. They need there prime supporters to stay single so they can hijack the maternal instinct redirecting to the lefts political causes. These leftist single women (feminist) advocate the practice unrestricted game while making it illegal for men to do the same. This has created an arms race where anything goes, this unrestricted sexual warfare maximizes distrust. Family's tend to be small or never created in the first place.
I spent some time in Salt Lake City, the woman are definitely different, much more polite and also the lack of racism as compared to Los Angeles, my Filipina girlfriend really noticed this. Many more children too, its like a 1950's microcosm.





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Re: Pete Buttigieg - Presidential Candidate (D) 2020

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You don't seem to understand that so long as the Republican Party clings to its anti-spending faction, they are going to lose. Health care is a bigger issue than immigration. Now, if the Republican Party would accept a lasting peace on the ObamaCare War - especially by agreeing to spend even more on it - that could definitely change the calculus. With a lot of Democrats going socialist, they could still occupy the Right side of that debate. Heck, throw in some sense about climate change, and I might go back to them!
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May 13th, 2019, 1:08 am
You don't seem to understand that so long as the Republican Party clings to its anti-spending faction, they are going to lose. Health care is a bigger issue than immigration. Now, if the Republican Party would accept a lasting peace on the ObamaCare War - especially by agreeing to spend even more on it - that could definitely change the calculus. With a lot of Democrats going socialist, they could still occupy the Right side of that debate. Heck, throw in some sense about climate change, and I might go back to them!
In the political sense climate change is simple, it's mass hysteria. There are known implementable solutions to lesson the probability of direct man made climate impact and improve our physical environment which might deflate the mass hysteria. Solutions that actually work are ignored and quickly dismissed by the radical left who are very ungrateful by default.

Health care is much more complicated, no easy simple solutions. Many obvious problems are purposeful denied by mainstream media who push a misleading narrative of feel good or fear quackery. The one size fits all too big to fail approach will never function very well. There are paradigm shifts developing like treating aging as a disease, likely decades away from mainstream. The final result of our current healthcare approach is a 100% failure rate. To have any real understanding about healthcare would first require completely ignoring mainstream media wich is all misleading propaganda. For now the argument has nothing to do with actual health care and everything to do with how you feel about healthcare entitlements and privilege.

What is irreconcilable to the left's primary support, feminist, is Trump treats women with actual equality and respect. Feminist demand special entitlement and privilege.

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May 12th, 2019, 5:00 pm
Regardless of the results in 2016 - in which he had an absolutely putrid opponent - Trump has simply dug himself too big of a hole to get out of, and there is no "perfect storm" of a Hillary opponent out there that I can see.

Hillary was a very formidable opponent, she had decades of high level political experience and was extremely well connected. Spent over twice the money Trump did. The entire mainstream media was on her side, she had tons of free positive press and the press bashed Trump non stop. But Hillary lost in spite of having the deck stacked heavily in her favor. The only holes out there are hoaxes, it all depends on how many people want to believe them.
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It really astounds me how deep you guys are willing to throat the messages of the GOP that is much a part of this country's woes as the Democrats. Neither serves any true good, they only serve to line their own pockets by pitting people against each other using lynchpin topics
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May 18th, 2019, 1:12 pm
It really astounds me how deep you guys are willing to throat the messages of the GOP that is much a part of this country's woes as the Democrats. Neither serves any true good, they only serve to line their own pockets by pitting people against each other using lynchpin topics
The radical left tech companies are guaranteeing a 2020 Trump win. They are highly biased in the deplatforming/banning from social media efforts, they mostly target the nuts on the far right. That leaves the extreme lunatic left in tact. Bernie Sanders look like he is on the right. The new Dem voices are AOC or crazier. In all this Trump is the very moderate choice. The left has with too many linchpin topics and thus fractured unable to form any real opposition that is not even more self divisive.
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He has no shot.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
April 26th, 2019, 1:36 pm
tom wrote:
April 26th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Kamala Harris is number one with the active advocate democrats and racist blacks.
What? Kamala Harris is one of the least "black" persons in America. Her father was just barely black and her mother was "dothead" Indian.

Some black women might be moved by the fact that she identifies as a black woman, but blacks in general would be more inclined to vote for Cory Booker or Wayne Messam.

Kamala is the candidate for savvy feminists who know that the other females could not get black females to the polls in sufficient numbers for the Dems to win. Kamala could do that.

Look for her to be a possible VP selection.
As much as I dislike her and her politics, I guess I nailed that prediction!
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I was betting on Michelle Obama over her.. I think she is ruthless and could be used for a full blown commie revolution..
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Moretorque wrote:
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I was betting on Michelle Obama over her.. I think she is ruthless and could be used for a full blown commie revolution..
Michelle Obama would have been the better choice in terms of energizing Democratic voters to turnout and vote, but since Kamala has more substantive experience, they went with her.

If Biden actually wins (which I doubt), Kamala will likely be President in the first term due to Biden’s cognitive decline or death from old age.
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Oooohh, this wicked witch is going to melt under the heat. When Tulsi Gabbard ripped her a new one in one of the debates for obtuse prosecutorial decisions, she got her full bitch on the next day, pronouncing herself a "first-tier candidate," forced to suffer the indignity of fielding potshots from one of the lesser lights. Then as a first-tier candidate she proceeded to garner next to no support in the primaries. An unusually unlikable pol.
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gsjackson wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:47 pm
Oooohh, this wicked witch is going to melt under the heat. When Tulsi Gabbard ripped her a new one in one of the debates for obtuse prosecutorial decisions, she got her full bitch on the next day, pronouncing herself a "first-tier candidate," forced to suffer the indignity of fielding potshots from one of the lesser lights. Then as a first-tier candidate she proceeded to garner next to no support in the primaries. An unusually unlikable pol.
She was the "safe" pick but Pence should outclass her in the debates. This is purely a play to encourage females and black Democrats to the polls. They know they can't win the key states without a decent female turnout and a heavy black turnout.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:59 pm
gsjackson wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:47 pm
Oooohh, this wicked witch is going to melt under the heat. When Tulsi Gabbard ripped her a new one in one of the debates for obtuse prosecutorial decisions, she got her full bitch on the next day, pronouncing herself a "first-tier candidate," forced to suffer the indignity of fielding potshots from one of the lesser lights. Then as a first-tier candidate she proceeded to garner next to no support in the primaries. An unusually unlikable pol.
She was the "safe" pick but Pence should outclass her in the debates. This is purely a play to encourage females and black Democrats to the polls. They know they can't win the key states without a decent female turnout and a heavy black turnout.
You'd think they could have picked an actual black female and someone who didn't accuse her running mate of being a racist sex offender though. The whole thing is bizarre. We always knew it was possible for skanks to sleep their way to the top, but one might have hoped that didn't apply to the POTUS.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 1:33 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
April 26th, 2019, 1:36 pm
tom wrote:
April 26th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Kamala Harris is number one with the active advocate democrats and racist blacks.
What? Kamala Harris is one of the least "black" persons in America. Her father was just barely black and her mother was "dothead" Indian.

Some black women might be moved by the fact that she identifies as a black woman, but blacks in general would be more inclined to vote for Cory Booker or Wayne Messam.

Kamala is the candidate for savvy feminists who know that the other females could not get black females to the polls in sufficient numbers for the Dems to win. Kamala could do that.

Look for her to be a possible VP selection.
As much as I dislike her and her politics, I guess I nailed that prediction!
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Cornfed wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 11:02 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:59 pm
gsjackson wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:47 pm
Oooohh, this wicked witch is going to melt under the heat. When Tulsi Gabbard ripped her a new one in one of the debates for obtuse prosecutorial decisions, she got her full bitch on the next day, pronouncing herself a "first-tier candidate," forced to suffer the indignity of fielding potshots from one of the lesser lights. Then as a first-tier candidate she proceeded to garner next to no support in the primaries. An unusually unlikable pol.
She was the "safe" pick but Pence should outclass her in the debates. This is purely a play to encourage females and black Democrats to the polls. They know they can't win the key states without a decent female turnout and a heavy black turnout.
You'd think they could have picked an actual black female and someone who didn't accuse her running mate of being a racist sex offender though. The whole thing is bizarre. We always knew it was possible for skanks to sleep their way to the top, but one might have hoped that didn't apply to the POTUS.
I know right. =/
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gsjackson wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:47 pm
Oooohh, this wicked witch is going to melt under the heat. When Tulsi Gabbard ripped her a new one in one of the debates for obtuse prosecutorial decisions, she got her full bitch on the next day, pronouncing herself a "first-tier candidate," forced to suffer the indignity of fielding potshots from one of the lesser lights. Then as a first-tier candidate she proceeded to garner next to no support in the primaries. An unusually unlikable pol.
There has already been a black president. If they wanted a female VP, they could have chosen Tulsi Gabbard. I think she would do better in a debate than Harris against Pence. She's also not bad looking for a woman her age, which doesn't hurt. But Hawaii's vote doesn't matter much in the general election. I'm not sure what percentage of the country would vote for a woman just she was a woman and seems reasonably decent. I suspect Hillary got some of that 'because she is a woman' vote. But Trump comes off as a mean person some times, and I suspect some people held their noses and voted for Hillary just as some held their noses and voted for Trump against her.

But I think Trump has shown a lot of very bold leadership, even though he makes the unnecessary insults and sometimes ill-thought-out and unwise comments and tweets. He certainly has the gumption to lead even when he will face criticism for his decisions, and from what i know of his judicial appointments, his presidency has been positive for the country in that regard as well. The COVID-19 scare created a huge recession, but I do not blame that on Trump, of course. The economy was booming before that.
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