What I dislike is the way they stand around like salesmen. It's not so much that it's creepy, it's just silly and ridiculous and desperate. They've learned a skill and all they want to do now is put it into practice over and over because they can't believe how amazing it is that it works. What they should be doing is just getting on with their lives and using a bit of it here and there rather than making a big deal out of it.gsjackson wrote: ↑January 15th, 2019, 4:41 amQuite honestly, I haven't seen any of these so-called PUA's demonstrating their "field work" who didn't come across as creepy, or at least as transparent, charmless manipulators. Not one. I'm all for the cold approach concept, but don't model any of these guys.Johnny1975 wrote: ↑January 14th, 2019, 1:42 pmDan, I've seen a lot of your videos where you approach girls. And I've seen other people do the same, and they don't fail as much as you do. The reason why you fail so much is because you have a creepy vibe. It was wrong for you to get arrested and demonized. That happened because you have a creepy vibe. But it was still wrong.
However, the fact remains that you have a creepy vibe. You're too intense, and you don't seem to be aware of how you come across. You should work on that. Also your videos, the ones where it's just you talking, they go on way too long. 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours, it's ridiculous. You have no concept of how other people see you. Everything you do is too much, too long, too intense, and it puts people (women) off.
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I'm in agreement if it's virtually indiscriminate solicitation, which is what most of these PUA's seem to do -- the "numbers game." But if, going about your normal business, you happen to see a woman who knocks your socks off, you need to give it a go.
^The thing about the woman who knocks your sock is...if she knock your socks off then she probably knocks off a very many men's socks off, and you approaching her won't be anything special. She deals with that every day.
The basic issue that can't be avoided is this:
Women are not as interested in meeting men as men are in meeting women. Especially not through cold-approach. Not that there is in particular any more effective way.
It's at least partially a function of our having successfully built a society in which the conventional motivations for women needing men have been reduced or eliminated, so their standards have blown through the roof.
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I advocate incidental engagement meaning engaging with a girl who is already in contact with you IE standing in line, waitress, fellow customer shopping for something, etc. It is far less threatening and the ice can be broken with humor, a small chat can ensue, and a scribble down of your number to a girl and end the encounter.
The cold approach is too abrupt, and PUAs often hired models to pose as random girls on the street.
That is how I have often done it. Sit-down situations, such as at the bus stop or an open table in a public dining area, are ideal; others walking around will either not notice or just assume you already knew each other.
Not that I recommend bothering with all this any more. The pickings are slim these days.
I'm totally shocked, I thought Sasha Daygame was British. Maybe because he did his first daygame pickup videos from London. I don't think I ever clearly heard his voice before this video.