How bad is the American dating scene?

[GoingAwol]

How many American men do you think are going without or going with very little? If you bring up this topic with most people they will shame you and tell you that the only guys that are struggling are a very small minority of guys that are losers. Well I disagree with them and I think that a large percentage of American men are really struggling to find women.
The biggest reason I believe this is how men act around women. Let me elaborate on that... If you have observed men in social situations you will know that they will literally throw themselves at any woman coming and going. Men also become fiercely competitive when women are around and will gladly shit on or throw their buddies under the bus if there's even a remote possibility that they could get a woman by doing it. There's just a general vibe of distrust in regards to women among male friends. Its not uncommon to see friendships end because of jealously over a woman. Another thing is there's no spirit of cooperation when it comes to getting women. In past generations people would introduce men and women to each other. That was the norm in America! I guarantee you that if you were to ask older people how they met their spouse most of them will tell you that they were introduced by a friend or family member. That just doesn't happen much anymore.... Now people are jealous and stingy and will actively try to keep men from having access to social circles where they could meet a girlfriend/wife. Another thing you will notice is men who get girlfriends or get married will distance themselves from their single friends. These guys are mate guarding! They keep their girlfriends and wives away from their friends to lower the chances of losing her to another guy.
All of these things I've mentioned above should be plain as day to anyone that lives in the U.S or has spent a lot of time here. But what does it mean? Some people may say that all of this is normal and the way it is and im stating the obvious. I personally think all of these things are signs that American men are struggling to find women. Imo, all of these things are symptoms of desperate men that are trying to get picky women that have priced themselves out of the market. I don't think that these things would be happening as much if men weren't struggling. What do you guys think? Am I right or wrong?

[Feldeinsamkeit]

Although as a Brit living in the UK I can't speak for the US dating market, what you describe is something I have read about many times before from other guys describing their situation in the US. In fact, I think what you're talking about applies as much to the UK as to the US, which has a hellish dating market for men, too. In my experience, it is almost as if women go out of their way to hide from men, such is the level of competition between men for even frumpy and mediocre women that inflates women egos to such as extent that they believe that only the top 5-10% of men are worthy to even approach them.

[Yohan]

I see little difference between the dating scene in USA, UK and Continental Europe.

I would say, Continental Europe is a little bit better, but only a little bit.

Women are less hateful, but more derisive - women are also easier accepting the fact, that men look for foreign wives - abortion is also not such a hot topic compared to USA, pornography and prostitution are widely tolerated or even legal.

Women from Continental Europe will also run after alimony, but will receive it only for a few years, they run after child support, but receive only a clearly monthly calculated part of the salary of the ex-husband etc. I also find UK women much lazier and much more demanding compared to women from Continental Europe etc.

A bit more tolerant, but basically the same, plenty of women into drugs and thugs, or looking for a guy with money...

Dating? The best is not even willing to try - better check out for nice ladies elsewhere, away from Europe.

[GoingAwol]

I haven't been to the UK but I've heard that it isn't any better there. I somewhat agree with you about the women. Its not so much that they hide here, it's just that they make themselves unapproachable. They don't smile or put off of an open/friendly vibe, They are almost never alone and travel in groups, and they are always texting or have the phone glued to their ears. All of these things make it nearly impossible to approach them,much less get to know them. I used to believe all the shaming tactics and thought I was the one with the problem. I always felt really awkward or extremely anxious whenever I would try to interact with women and assumed something was wrong with me. But over time I have met a few American women that were very open and friendly and I realized that its easy to talk to women when they actually do their part and act like they are open to you . Its just natural.... No "game" or "confidence" necessary.

[Stag]

The UK dating scene is pretty shite really. I ended up paying a girl to come round once a week for some fun, as it's less hassle time wise.

[droid]

women when they actually do their part and act like they are open to you . Its just natural.... No "game" or "confidence" necessary.

+1

[Thechamp]

Just as bad as Australias

[Moretorque]

Is it possible our rulers are doing this so we will not have families ? the divide and conquer.