Don't Use American Dating Sites

[Tsar]

I decided to test how many messages a 8-10 American girl would receive on a dating site. What I determined was a very attractive girl would receive between 100 or 200 messages a day. I figure that a 7 would receive the relatively same number.

After seeing how many messages a girl would receive it isn't worth playing that game.

The common situation with dating sites:
1. A man has no luck getting a date and decides to try a dating site.
2. He joins thinking he will have better luck
3. He spends a lot of time writing a good profile
4. He finds some attractive girls he wants to meet
5. He sends out individual, genuine messages

Then one of the following happens:
1. He gets no replies, he checks his views and he gets none. The lack of replies becoming annoying and he quits.
2. The girls send a reply once or twice then nothing. He quits.

[clowny]

Tsar, I just wanted to say this: f**k you.

You use these stupid calculations to ascertain that statistically speaking, there is no chance for you to find a good woman in america. Well to that I say, your standards are too high. And no, your chances are NOT going to be any better abroad. Because non-western women, in some respects, are even worse than western women.

So, your options are basically this:

1. Lower your standards, and basically just try to find a western woman who isn't fat and isn't a bitch (almost impossible)

2. Bang hookers & escorts

3. Become content with jerking off for the rest of your life

4. Go abroad to meet women and discover that foreign women are not magical princesses and are just as bad as western women (sorry to shatter your fantasy)

[anamericaninbangkok]

Tsar, I just wanted to say this: f**k you.

You use these stupid calculations to ascertain that statistically speaking, there is no chance for you to find a good woman in america. Well to that I say, your standards are too high. And no, your chances are NOT going to be any better abroad. Because non-western women, in some respects, are even worse than western women.

So, your options are basically this:

1. Lower your standards, and basically just try to find a western woman who isn't fat and isn't a bitch (almost impossible)

2. Bang hookers & escorts

3. Become content with jerking off for the rest of your life

4. Go abroad to meet women and discover that foreign women are not magical princesses and are just as bad as western women (sorry to shatter your fantasy)

Finally, someone who acknowledges the truth.

[Tsar]

Tsar, I just wanted to say this: f**k you.

You use these stupid calculations to ascertain that statistically speaking, there is no chance for you to find a good woman in america. Well to that I say, your standards are too high. And no, your chances are NOT going to be any better abroad. Because non-western women, in some respects, are even worse than western women.

So, your options are basically this:

1. Lower your standards, and basically just try to find a western woman who isn't fat and isn't a bitch (almost impossible)

2. Bang hookers & escorts

3. Become content with jerking off for the rest of your life

4. Go abroad to meet women and discover that foreign women are not magical princesses and are just as bad as western women (sorry to shatter your fantasy)

My standards are not too high. I already mentioned in previous threads that any girl I am with must be a virgin and at least a 7/10 in attractiveness.

If I was like most other American guys who would accept a used up girl and increase maximum age range then my odds would increase to reflect the lack of quality I would be receiving. A girl that is a slut trying to pretend she's not, who wasted the best years of her beauty being a slut, and now she wants a provider so she's willing to settle for me hoping I'm a mangina.

I won't be shamed and I won't accept a used up girl.

I already mentioned I can't destroy my honor and pride so paying hookers and escorts isn't something I could or would do. I also wouldn't spend my money like that. In order for me to truly be a man I must be with a virgin girl. I can only marry a virgin girl. The only thing that a girl has to give is her virginity and the longevity of her attractiveness (which is at it's prime between 16-23, and begins a natural decline at age 30-35).

I also mentioned that I am not interested in American girls anymore. I dropped out entirely last autumn when I decided I was done.

People always say "Lower your standards" and what do you end up with? High divorce ratings, unhappy marriages, and men getting the worst end of the deal. Most men already lowered their standard of wanting a virgin woman to compensate for the majority of sluts. Society is always willing to lower standards to appease the lowest common denominators and those who refuse to lower their standards are shamed.

Men who want to be with or marry virgins are shamed. Men who want an attractive woman are sometimes shamed. Men who want a young woman are shamed. Then there is the constant glorification of sluts, single teen moms, cougars, and a white knight man willing to become a provider for a woman who divorced her husband and took his children away.

Based on your response I will assume you have no problem marrying a girl that has "been" with other guys but I would never even consider accepting a girl that has "been" with even one other guy.

[Tsar]

I won't be a white knight or a mangina. I have pride, honor, and ego. I have the heart and spirit of a king. I won't grovel, beg, or go out of my way to win an American girl over. The girl I want would see me for who I am, know I have many good qualities, and want to be with me for what I have to offer.

After I decided to embrace who I am and stop playing the broken, dysfunctional game I have become much happier with myself. I am not the problem, it's Western society that is the problem. I never fit into American culture and was always treated like an outsider. I always feel like I'm out of place and I don't belong in America.

[Array9]

Hey Tsar, I don't think your standards are too high. Your standards are where they should be for a normal guy. The problem with American men, from what I see, is that they chase and tap dance in order to please mediocre American women. Women who sleep with every cute guy they meet, women with multiple children out of wedlock and women who wouldn't look at you unless you made a lot more money than they did. Why would any guy settle for this? The average woman is having more sex than the average man. Not all American women are bad but the dating scene favors women now.

Finding a virgin who is a 7 or above is not impossible but your chances are better looking in other countries.

[jamesbond]

I decided to test how many messages a 8-10 American girl would receive on a dating site. What I determined was a very attractive girl would receive between 100 or 200 messages a day. I figure that a 7 would receive the relatively same number.

After seeing how many messages a girl would receive it isn't worth playing that game.

The common situation with dating sites:
1. A man has no luck getting a date and decides to try a dating site.
2. He joins thinking he will have better luck
3. He spends a lot of time writing a good profile
4. He finds some attractive girls he wants to meet
5. He sends out individual, genuine messages

Then one of the following happens:
1. He gets no replies, he checks his views and he gets none. The lack of replies becoming annoying and he quits.
2. The girls send a reply once or twice then nothing. He quits.

Your assessment of online dating is 100% true! I read that the overwhelming majority of people who use online dating are men. This explains why women are getting hundreds of response a week!

Winston said he used online dating when he was living in the US years ago and it was a complete waste of time. Most women who use online dating are either fat, ugly or single mothers!

Internet dating is a complete waste of time, just save your money and travel to foreign countries if you want to meet women.

[abcdavid01]

Way to get messages from girls (as a man) that works: pretend you're drunk. I've done this and it works.

Just write crazy answers like you don't give a f**k.

For example, favorite tv shows:

Dragon Ball Z, Desperate Housewives, Country Music Awards

You'll get women messaging you, but if it's the kind of women you want is another question entirely.

[Banano]

Thai chick I met through DIA told me told me how she gets tons of messages from guys and only replies to a few she 'likes', she was about average looking girl, 6/10 at best.
You also have social media sites such as FB were girls get hit on 24/7 either directly or indirectly
Try to experiment with fake FB account and you will see,

Home or abroad Online dating sucks for men, odds are far worse than going to bars or pubs

[Adama]

Tsar, I just wanted to say this: f**k you.

You use these stupid calculations to ascertain that statistically speaking, there is no chance for you to find a good woman in america. Well to that I say, your standards are too high. And no, your chances are NOT going to be any better abroad. Because non-western women, in some respects, are even worse than western women.

So, your options are basically this:

1. Lower your standards, and basically just try to find a western woman who isn't fat and isn't a bitch (almost impossible)

2. Bang hookers & escorts

3. Become content with jerking off for the rest of your life

4. Go abroad to meet women and discover that foreign women are not magical princesses and are just as bad as western women (sorry to shatter your fantasy)

The feminists tell men the same thing. Namely that men should just settle for fat, angry single mothers. I dont think that is quite fair at all.

As for foreign women, they can be very bad as well. I've taken trips to South America and it is astounding how bad some women can behave. Thankfully, most of them arent bad at all. But there are quite a few who are very bad. It doesnt help that the bad ones tend to be the more vocal ones. So they stand out. Whereas the better ones are quieter and more reserved. In order to get a woman in S.A. a man would have to be initially much more aggressive, but the women will follow through and not flake, like the average Anglophone woman would.

Years ago I used to chat with a guy who visited Khazahkstan (sp) for a few months. He said the men there mostly ignored women, and the women were more receptive because of that.

[abcdavid01]

That's what I meant about just not caring Adama. And the thing about the more reserved women being the better ones, I think that's just a general rule about women wherever you go.

[jamesbond]

Home or abroad Online dating sucks for men, odds are far worse than going to bars or pubs.

I agree. I don't like bars or clubs but your odds of meeting women there are greater, than if you use using internet dating.

[Jester]

Most women who use online dating are either fat, ugly or single mothers!

This was my experience.

[Maverick]

Tsar, I just wanted to say this: f**k you.

You use these stupid calculations to ascertain that statistically speaking, there is no chance for you to find a good woman in america. Well to that I say, your standards are too high. And no, your chances are NOT going to be any better abroad. Because non-western women, in some respects, are even worse than western women.

So, your options are basically this:

1. Lower your standards, and basically just try to find a western woman who isn't fat and isn't a bitch (almost impossible)

2. Bang hookers & escorts

3. Become content with jerking off for the rest of your life

4. Go abroad to meet women and discover that foreign women are not magical princesses and are just as bad as western women (sorry to shatter your fantasy)

In my experience, American women aren't particularly difficult to get (once you're able to deal with all of the nonsense and sh*t tests). Foreign women can be difficult too.

But after dating both (though, it should be said that I met these foreign women unintentionally in the US....not through actually looking for a wife), I've found that foreign women are leaps and bounds easier to deal with than western women. Sorry, but this has been my experience.

[Maverick]

I decided to test how many messages a 8-10 American girl would receive on a dating site. What I determined was a very attractive girl would receive between 100 or 200 messages a day. I figure that a 7 would receive the relatively same number.

After seeing how many messages a girl would receive it isn't worth playing that game.

The common situation with dating sites:
1. A man has no luck getting a date and decides to try a dating site.
2. He joins thinking he will have better luck
3. He spends a lot of time writing a good profile
4. He finds some attractive girls he wants to meet
5. He sends out individual, genuine messages

Then one of the following happens:
1. He gets no replies, he checks his views and he gets none. The lack of replies becoming annoying and he quits.
2. The girls send a reply once or twice then nothing. He quits.

Generally, if you can't get girls in real life, you won't be able to get them doing online dating.