NorthAmericanguy wrote:djfourmoney wrote:
Being proactive isn't a problem for most men I don't think. Being aggressive can get tiring because how many women do you expend that much energy on before getting a positive response?
I have not and will not approach every girl I see. Yes persistence will pay of with just about anything in life, but is that much "persistence" really necessary with women?
I say no, in a crowded room, all one needs to do is move about and make eye contact. Works really well when everybody there has the same agenda, that's where the problem comes from, especially in nightclub/disco situation.
One problem in America there is no ideal place for marriage minded people to go and NO church is NOT one of them; if people tell you that its a f***ing LIE!
No reason to set foot in a church and yes going to Latin America is an uphill battle against this mindset but that's very minor to the other bs I would have to deal with if I remained in America.
This is good advice for dating in America and you're under 30, but after that the search for greener pastures better start or you'll spend the next decade mostly single.
As far as what's in bold I agree 100%. Why make things hard on yourself? Living in America is hard enough as it is having to find a job and earn a living to take care of yourself so why make it harder by chasing women who don't want to give you the time of day, and even if they do give you time, they're not QUALITY women anyway.
I agree, one problem after school (HS/College) is your social circle gets smaller. You try to expand that with social pursuits; my problem has been very few women are involved in these pursuits.
This automatically makes it harder than needed to find enough women to talk too. This is why the internet has been a boon to dating in Western Culture. However the truth is the quality has gone down, down, down since the mid 90's and as you get older.
Sure you can hookup with women around age 40 because they are coming to the end of their reproductive part of their lives and are getting ready to throw that hail mary pass in order to finally snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
The quality women have largely been taken by age 30 because they are smart enough to see their value on the market is decreasing. This messes up things, because women who are attractive are still chasing around the upper 10-20% of men. Perfect example is my friend Rob who I have talked about before; he was desperate to get married, only 23 at the time. Well he finally bumped into a girl about the same age who wanted to get married young as well.
They got married and had three children. As far as I know they are still married, oldest child should be right around 20 now. His wife is very attractive too.
If you take it seriously like the Wendy Webb did (many here rather talk about HER and not the message) you can find a woman here, but we agree its just too much work at this point.